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Ironman92

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Dec 4, 2011 7:34 PM
More furious with......


Pat Shurmur?
LeBron James?
Dec 4, 2011 7:34pm
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OQB

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Dec 4, 2011 7:39 PM
Shurmur....Cleveland is a football town, just so happens our team sucks every single year.
Dec 4, 2011 7:39pm
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iclfan2

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Dec 4, 2011 7:41 PM
I just don't understand how Shurmur was the HC choice. Holmgren should be embarrassed for stealing Lerner's money.
Dec 4, 2011 7:41pm
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Dec 4, 2011 7:44 PM
Shurmur because Cleveland is a "football town" just so happens our team sucks every single year.
Dec 4, 2011 7:44pm
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BR1986FB

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Dec 4, 2011 7:50 PM
Lebron

Why would I be furious with Shurmur? It's that fat ass paycheck stealing Holmgren that hired him.
Dec 4, 2011 7:50pm
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Dec 4, 2011 7:56 PM
Holmgren's 2 biggest decisions so far have been Holmgren and Shurmur, and he basically staked his tenure on them.

Everyone in the city knows that Shurmur is a loser, but for Holmgren to fire him it would be admitting he screwed up. That's not going to happen, so we are stuck in neutral for years on end. It is sad and depressing.

I despise watching a Pat Shurmur run offense every week as it sucks the joy out of being a Browns fan. I hate that Holmgren is willingly allowing it to happen knowing that it is setting the franchise back.
Dec 4, 2011 7:56pm
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skank

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Dec 4, 2011 8:00 PM
Why are "recievers who lead the league in drops" not on the list?
Dec 4, 2011 8:00pm
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Ironman92

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Dec 4, 2011 8:03 PM
Pat Shurmur is Fritz Shurmur's son....is that correct? Was Fritz the defensive coordinator for Holmgren....or am I make all this stuff up. If so that is just awful.
Dec 4, 2011 8:03pm
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wes_mantooth

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Dec 4, 2011 8:03 PM
neither....

they are both just dumbasses
Dec 4, 2011 8:03pm
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Ironman92

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Dec 4, 2011 8:06 PM
I just did my own research....not only was he a defensive coordinator for Holmgren at Green Bay, but he left with Holmgren to go to Seattle....WOW, wonder how Pat got his job. Lol
Dec 4, 2011 8:06pm
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IggyPride00

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Dec 4, 2011 8:12 PM
Ironman92;1001709 wrote:Pat Shurmur is Fritz Shurmur's son....is that correct? Was Fritz the defensive coordinator for Holmgren....or am I make all this stuff up. If so that is just awful.
Nephew.

They share the same agent (Shurmur and Holmgren) though. I guess as long as they keep the commission in the family it's ok.
Dec 4, 2011 8:12pm
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Ironman92

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Dec 4, 2011 8:34 PM
OK...thanks.

Still awful for Browns.
Dec 4, 2011 8:34pm
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Dec 4, 2011 8:43 PM
Holmgren is terrible in the front office just like he was with the Seahawks. I knew hiring him would be a mistake unless he wanted to do the actual coaching.
Dec 4, 2011 8:43pm
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like_that

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Dec 4, 2011 8:48 PM
The shurmur hiring was a joke, the heckert hiring was a good move.
Dec 4, 2011 8:48pm
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IggyPride00

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Dec 4, 2011 8:53 PM
[video=youtube;NV0_fuyLlV0][/video]

We need more of this out of the local media.

This is a must listen for anyone who considers themselves a Browns fan.
Dec 4, 2011 8:53pm
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like_that

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Dec 4, 2011 8:57 PM
IggyPride00;1001869 wrote:[video=youtube;NV0_fuyLlV0][/video]

We need more of this out of the local media.

This is a must listen for anyone who considers themselves a Browns fan.
Yeah, that is exactly what Cleveland needs. They need more jaded journalists who will stir shit up (see hillis), because they are frustrated.
Dec 4, 2011 8:57pm
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BR1986FB

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Dec 5, 2011 5:14 AM
like_that;1001884 wrote:Yeah, that is exactly what Cleveland needs. They need more jaded journalists who will stir shit up (see hillis), because they are frustrated.
Exactly. Rizzo is a stupid rumor mongering worthless piece of shit. He adds NO value to Cleveland sports talk. Worthless.

As far as the Fritz/Pat Shurmur comments....I also expect it to be very possible that Mike Sherman will join this staff as Pat's O-Coordinator. They all share the same agent with Holmgren.

Jammies is to blame for this shit. He keeps hiring these worthless fucks like Crennel, Mangini, etc. Until there's a legit owner it will be "Groundhog Day" over & over. Even Mike Brown laughs at Lerner.

Really pissed me off seeing Ozzie Newsome sitting up in the Rats press box. He should be Cleveland's GM.
Dec 5, 2011 5:14am
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Dec 5, 2011 6:07 AM
BR1986FB;1001673 wrote:Lebron

Why would I be furious with Shurmur? It's that fat ass paycheck stealing Holmgren that hired him.

Surprised since you don't like or watch the NBA.
Dec 5, 2011 6:07am
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BR1986FB

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Dec 5, 2011 7:47 AM
Skyhook79;1002420 wrote:Surprised since you don't like or watch the NBA.
I like the Cavs. Root for all Cleveland sports teams.
Dec 5, 2011 7:47am
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Dec 5, 2011 8:12 AM
Shurmur. His 8th grade offensive scheme is what's hurting the Browns currently and in the immediate future.

While I'll always despise LeBron, the Cavs franchise is moving on without him. His only effect on them now comes when the Cavs play the Heat.
Dec 5, 2011 8:12am