Jmar25;1269717 wrote:I will conceded that Bates is a heck of an athlete and of everyone involved in this game... Probably takes the cake, but I'll take the State Wrestling Runner up Stanley over the two tracksters. (Sorry... Gotta be way more athletic to be a runner up in wrestling than running on a track.) He might not be as fast as those two but Speed doesn't equal athlete. He was also a solid baseball player before concentrating on FB/WR only. I think he would give Bates a run for his money.

Jared Orr is a very capable ATHLETE. If he is still playing on the line this week then it will clearly look like he isn't but trust me... the kid works harder than any other kid. Has speed. Has agility. Has strength (for his size... not enough to be successful on the o line) Has the biggest gas tank I've ever seen on a kid. I feel he would be in the conversation as a top ATHLETE between these two teams.

I've already stated that the Antjuan kid is about as as fast bates. Bates is the better athlete at this stage though. Antjuan's potential is way higher than bates but he isn't there yet. He is young. His name hasn't been thrown around as much as others. Trust me. The kid is oozing athletic ability. People will know him by years end and if he dedicates himself.... WATCH OUT!

Keeping with the young guys... I'll take Reid Stanley over any of the soph's Smithville has. Just wait... That kid has the potential to be one of the best the area has ever seen in wrestling and from the bit I've seen him play... If used properly... football as well. He has tremendous work ethic and I expect to see him grow tremendously in the next couple years. He will be a very good athlete.

Wren Weaver is also a fine athlete. I'd put him into the same category as the others you have listed. Kid can move. Fairly sharp all the way around. I'd imagine that he would be highly competitive with the bottom three kids you mentioned.

Strasbaugh is a very well rounded athlete as well. He's in the upper tier of those listed.

Those are the names I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure I'm leaving out a few guys. I haven't had the ability to follow the football team as much as I'd like to. Just a few games and past history.


I'll leave you with this thought... Football isn't about athletes. Athletes are just that... athletes. They can do a lot of things, but that doens't mean they are football players. It takes more than one great athlete (bates) to win a football game. There is much more that goes into a win besides talent and ability. Those other reasons are why Smithville should win this game. They have more FOOTBALL PLAYERS. I think they are a better team at this point. It is those other things like game plan, execution, unity, and a desire to correct mistakes that has cost the bears this year. Smithville is ahead in those areas.... o... and where it really counts in high school football.... THE O/D LINES. Waynedale lacks those areas and without those.... You've got a lot of trouble doing things.

wcalfan;1270194 wrote:Jared Orr? Really? If he is in the "athlete" conversation then the Bears don't have a chance. He isn't even in the top 10 athletes on the Waynedale team.

wcalfan;1270194 wrote:Jared Orr? Really? If he is in the "athlete" conversation then the Bears don't have a chance. He isn't even in the top 10 athletes on the Waynedale team.

1_beast;1270199 wrote:WOW!!! Really? You stand up for a coach but knock a kid.....LOL What a class act. I will set up a meeting with you and Mr and Mrs Orr so you can talk to them face to face and let them know your expectations. Just send me your # so I know how they can contact you!

wcalfan;1270398 wrote:Because I say the kid isn't the best athlete on the team, now I have no class? 1_least you should be the last person to judge character.

I never once questioned his heart and attitude. There is a reason he was voted team captain. Do you know what his 40 time is? Take a guess. I think you will be quite surprised. Distance running is great and is something I could never do, but it doesn't help a whole lot on a football field.

Jmar simply stated that he is the best athlete on the team and I disagree with him completely. Both Stanley boys, both Strausbaugh boys, Weaver, Antwan are all better athletes without question. Then you would lump Orr, McPhern, Milner and Drew Lester in the next group. You tell me how you would rank that second group. If we are strictly talking athletic ability then the list is pretty easy.

1_beast;1270446 wrote:LOL at poppy namecalling.....

Stalking, going head over heals to defend a grown man, yet eager to single out a high school kid and throw him under the bus.

Yep...NO CLASS.

While he may not be a speed demon....(unfortunately prob around :05 flat 40, (just a guess) you have launched a PERSONAL ATTACK on a kid.

Keep on trucking. You're good at it! Internet hero!

The Artist Formerly Known As Mr. Russell;1270015 wrote: Also, just saying this as someone who reads and doesn't post often (regardless of what Bloody Toothbrush says), if you dont come with facts and knowledgable information to defend your stance, like RedRider1, PitMan, 1Beast, JMar, 1486, 855pride, bobcat14 and posters like that, you really don't contribute much to actual sports talk that happens on this thread. Albeit rarely

Jmar25;1270422 wrote: As for the latest statement... Ummm I bet he runs a 4.6... You're right...conditioning has nothing to do with football. Fat slobs are the best players... I would agree with adding the 2nd Strausbaugh. Also adding Drew Lester. I forgot about him. Then Orr, McPhern and Milner.

855pride;1270811 wrote:i have learned a few things on this site. i wont get into the details of them but one is that everyone in the county runs a 4.6 :huh:....... just stating what i have been told so dont be toooooo excited about that.

Jmar25;1270847 wrote:O... I never doubted that you heard it. I hear it everywhere when I ask about a fast kid. Don't believe everything you hear.