dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Dec 3, 2011 11:42pm
correct. i'd love to see weeden/blackmon get a crack, thoughcats gone wild;1000057 wrote:What has LSU done all year vs top offenses or good QB's? Made them turn it over like crazy and score points. There hasnt been one game vs a good offense where LSU hasnt had multiple take aways. Right?
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Dec 3, 2011 11:43pm
Oklahoma State hasn't had a chance to play LSU, Alabama did and they lost(at home.)Mulva;999922 wrote:Record: 11-1 vs. 11-1
Good wins: (10-2) Arkansas, (9-3) Penn State vs. (9-3) Oklahoma, (10-2) Kansas State, (9-3) Baylor
Loss: (13-0) LSU vs. (6-6) Iowa State
How could anyone think it's that definitive one way or the other?
We know OSU is the best team in their conference. We know Alabama isn't.
If Alabama beats LSU, it would settle nothing. If OSU beat LSU, it would be clear OSU was the best team in the country.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Dec 3, 2011 11:45pm
cats gone wild;1000078 wrote:How did Houston fare today? How did OSU fare against Iowa State? What about Baylor losing 3 games? Great passing isnt all that it takes to win games. Defense is. How much does it have to be stressed each year that defense wins titles? Again, look at past OK teams. No sense in arguing anymore, Ive proved my point.
Totally different teams. Like some one said Oklahoma st reminds me of the packers. Give up yards force a ton of turnovers and can score the football. I the Iowa st game up sets happen and they had heavy hearts into not an excuse but it's tough to keep focus when something so tragic just happened. Either way I think osu and lsu would be a great game. Also it's not an arguments is a discussion
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 3, 2011 11:47pm
Oh we do?2kool4skool;1000084 wrote:We know OSU is the best team in their conference. We know Alabama isn't.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 3, 2011 11:47pm
Iowa State is better than OSU. Which conference are they in?
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Dec 3, 2011 11:47pm
Well, at least we all had a good "discussion". Later. And when the title game gets set, Im wanting to bet avatars with someone.
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Dec 3, 2011 11:52pm
Mulva;1000094 wrote:Oh we do?
Based on the format used to determine who the best in each conference is, OSU was the best in their conference, Alabama was not.karen lotz;1000095 wrote:Iowa State is better than OSU. Which conference are they in?
Since CFB doesn't have a balanced national schedule, conference play is the best way to weed out teams who aren't the best in the country, because they aren't even the best in their conference.
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bigkahuna
Posts: 4,454
Dec 3, 2011 11:54pm
For LSUcats gone wild;1000028 wrote:And...what did LSU do to those teams? Shut them down. Easy to figure out.
Oregon- 240 passing yards 1 INT
West Virginia- 463 passing yards 2 INTS
Alabama-200 passing yards 2 INTS
Arkansas-207 passing yards 1 INT
Georgia-218 passing yards 2 INT
1 Team on that list exclusively passes (same system as OSU) and torched LSU's defense through the air.
The other teams I listed had moderate success.
Oklahoma State's offense is far superior to the ones I listed. The question is, will we get a chance to see what can happen?
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Dec 3, 2011 11:55pm
bigkahuna;1000133 wrote:For LSU
Oregon- 240 passing yards 1 INT
West Virginia- 463 passing yards 2 INTS
Alabama-200 passing yards 2 INTS
Arkansas-207 passing yards 1 INT
Georgia-218 passing yards 2 INT
1 Team on that list exclusively passes (same system as OSU) and torched LSU's defense through the air.
The other teams I listed had moderate success.
Oklahoma State's offense is far superior to the ones I listed. The question is, will we get a chance to see what can happen?
Lmao owned
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Dec 3, 2011 11:56pm
Like I said I really think osu is a bad match up for lsu. But cats doesn't want to hear it
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Dec 3, 2011 11:56pm
Didn't somebody post earlier where osu's schedule was higher then bama's. I think osu did enough tonight to change some people's minds. Should be osu vs lsu.
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wghfan
Posts: 744
Dec 3, 2011 11:58pm
Listen, LSU, and Alabama are the top 2 teams in the country. Get over it. If Oklahoma St. did not shit the bed against Iowa St., then they would have got their shot at LSU.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Dec 3, 2011 11:59pm
wghfan;1000150 wrote:Listen, LSU, and Alabama are the top 2 teams in the country. Get over it. If Oklahoma St. did not **** the bed against Iowa St., then they would have got their shot at LSU.
If bama didn't shit the bed vs lsu at HOME then they would be in the title game ( see what I did there)
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Dec 4, 2011 12:01am
we don't know this for certain. alabama just lost earlier than okst didwghfan;1000150 wrote:Listen, LSU, and Alabama are the top 2 teams in the country. Get over it. If Oklahoma St. did not **** the bed against Iowa St., then they would have got their shot at LSU.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Dec 4, 2011 12:03am
Losing earlier always benefits you in this flawed system, but Bama's loss is also to the lone undefeated team in 1-A by 3 in OT.dazedconfused;1000158 wrote:we don't know this for certain. alabama just lost earlier than okst did
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Dec 4, 2011 12:08am
The question is... Will enough coaches put okie state ahead of bama. I hope so. I'd wanna watch osu vs lsu. I won't watch bama lsu again. Terrible.
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Dec 4, 2011 12:08am
oh i know...i hate this system. why is it so hard to have lsu play stanford and alabama play okst in a pair of semis? none of these teams are doing anything this weekend, they could get it donets1227;1000162 wrote:Losing earlier always benefits you in this flawed system, but Bama's loss is also to the lone undefeated team in 1-A by 3 in OT.
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bigkahuna
Posts: 4,454
Dec 4, 2011 12:13am
The thing people fail to remember is the controversy of OSU's field goal in the first overtime (or maybe end of regulation-can't remember) where the ball seems to go over the the upright. If the goalposts are 6 inches higher, the ball might have been good; same with Boise State @ Nevada last year. Unlike Alabama, where they completely shanked their misses.wghfan;1000150 wrote:Listen, LSU, and Alabama are the top 2 teams in the country. Get over it. If Oklahoma St. did not **** the bed against Iowa St., then they would have got their shot at LSU.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Dec 4, 2011 12:22am
Thanks for not mentioning LSU's fumble recoverys vs. those teams. Thanks for not mentioning the final scores. And yeah, OSU's offense is far more superior than Oregon. Get a clue. Yeah, I really got owned alright Crimson. :rolleyes: LSU has wins over 3 top 10 teams, OSU has none. LSU whipped their opponents besides Bama, while OSU lost to a horrible team, had to have a big time comeback vs another .500 team and has to squeeze one out vs KSU. Yeah, OSU is pretty dominant. Wow, they beat Ok tonight. Big deal, they arent top 10 worthy. LSU and Bama killed Arkansas who is and will be ranked in the top ten. LSU drilled top 10 Oregon too.bigkahuna;1000133 wrote:For LSU
Oregon- 240 passing yards 1 INT
West Virginia- 463 passing yards 2 INTS
Alabama-200 passing yards 2 INTS
Arkansas-207 passing yards 1 INT
Georgia-218 passing yards 2 INT
1 Team on that list exclusively passes (same system as OSU) and torched LSU's defense through the air.
The other teams I listed had moderate success.
Oklahoma State's offense is far superior to the ones I listed. The question is, will we get a chance to see what can happen?
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Dec 4, 2011 12:24am
What needs to happen is OSU play Bama. Winner plays LSU.
chicago510
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Dec 4, 2011 12:25am
LOL
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 4, 2011 12:25am
bigkahuna;1000179 wrote:The thing people fail to remember is the controversy of OSU's field goal in the first overtime (or maybe end of regulation-can't remember) where the ball seems to go over the the upright. If the goalposts are 6 inches higher, the ball might have been good; same with Boise State @ Nevada last year. Unlike Alabama, where they completely shanked their misses.
If the goalposts were ten yards wider, Bama doesn't miss all those field goals.
Everyone is making excuses for osu. Same stuff can be done for Alabama's case.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 4, 2011 12:26am
karen lotz;1000190 wrote:If the goalposts were ten yards wider, Bama doesn't miss all those field goals.
Everyone is making excuses for osu. Same stuff can be done for Alabama's case.
Except he is saying it wouldnt have been a judgement call vs actually being wide
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Dec 4, 2011 12:27am
Thanks for not mentioning that OSU's loss came within 24 hours of yet another plane crash killing university members...they almost cancelled the game because of it.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Dec 4, 2011 12:28am
Did he miss the kick or not?