
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Nov 28, 2011 12:02am
The Ravens (8-3) travel to Cleveland to battle the Browns (4-7).
Who wins?
Who wins?

Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Nov 28, 2011 12:35am
Not cleveland

OQB
Posts: 6,679
Nov 28, 2011 1:26am
Who cares at this point, we are looking towards the draft. :rolleyes:

Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 28, 2011 2:02am
I really hope bad Flacco shows up. Sheldon Brown can't cover Boldin or Torrey Smith without some help. And nobody on the Browns can stop Ray Rice.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Nov 28, 2011 8:12am
Browns won't score unless it's on defense. Ravens win big.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 28, 2011 8:15am
Browns will keep this just close enough to piss off the fans who will be asking "why didn't they do this, etc' after blowing a game they'll have a chance to win.

Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Nov 28, 2011 9:18am
Sooooooo the usual?BR1986FB;990930 wrote:Browns will keep this just close enough to piss off the fans who will be asking "why didn't they do this, etc' after blowing a game they'll have a chance to win.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 28, 2011 9:26am
BR1986FB;990930 wrote:Browns will keep this just close enough to piss off the fans who will be asking "why didn't they do this, etc' after blowing a game they'll have a chance to win.
Smh, sad but true. Just a sign of bad coaching in my opinion. Browns just dot know how to win. They don't make the 4-5 plays a game that gives them the wins. They have spoiled three games now where they should have had the win. They did the same shit last year too.
This is why I'm not for tanking this early in the season. They need to try to get over this mental block and learn how to finish and win games. It doesn't matter how much talent they obtain, they will have close games in the NFL no matter what, especially in the AFC north.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 28, 2011 9:38am
Would you expect any different? Yesterday was their annual "shock an opponent that you shouldn't beat and upset them" game and they couldn't even get THAT right. smhRotinaj;990983 wrote:Sooooooo the usual?

OQB
Posts: 6,679
Nov 28, 2011 12:19pm
I agree with all these posts.....

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Nov 28, 2011 2:32pm
I think it's because they don't have a playmaker to go to in times of need. Look at what the Bengals did, the relegated themselves to just throwin' it in the general vicinity of AJ Green and let him make the play. The room for error is so small for the Browns, that they have to be absolutely perfect to win games.like_that;990993 wrote:Smh, sad but true. Just a sign of bad coaching in my opinion. Browns just dot know how to win. They don't make the 4-5 plays a game that gives them the wins. They have spoiled three games now where they should have had the win. They did the same shit last year too.
This is why I'm not for tanking this early in the season. They need to try to get over this mental block and learn how to finish and win games. It doesn't matter how much talent they obtain, they will have close games in the NFL no matter what, especially in the AFC north.

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Nov 28, 2011 2:42pm
take the zanesville animal killings and apply that to this game
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 28, 2011 3:31pm
This worked very well for Derek Anderson in 2007 when he just threw in the general vicinity of Joe J, Scissorhands and K2. His accuracy was horrid but they bailed his ass out for one magical year.se-alum;991459 wrote:Look at what the Bengals did, the relegated themselves to just throwin' it in the general vicinity of AJ Green and let him make the play. The room for error is so small for the Browns, that they have to be absolutely perfect to win games.

Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 28, 2011 3:33pm
lol I've never heard scissorhands before. I like it.

dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Nov 28, 2011 4:07pm
i feel like this one is going to get messy for the clevelanders

bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Nov 28, 2011 4:23pm
Well I would guess the Browns' D will keep it fairly close but I would also guess the Ravens' D will be all over McCoy.
I'm thinking Ravens by 10.
I'm thinking Ravens by 10.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Nov 28, 2011 4:55pm
If the Ravens feed Ray Rice all game, they'll win big.bigdaddy2003;991659 wrote:Well I would guess the Browns' D will keep it fairly close but I would also guess the Ravens' D will be all over McCoy.
I'm thinking Ravens by 10.

Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Nov 28, 2011 4:59pm
It will probably be worse. Then with any luck, the Ravens can just go die in a fire. And please make sure Mr. Modell is with them at the time.bigdaddy2003;991659 wrote:Well I would guess the Browns' D will keep it fairly close but I would also guess the Ravens' D will be all over McCoy.
I'm thinking Ravens by 10.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 28, 2011 5:51pm
Amen, brother!Writerbuckeye;991714 wrote:It will probably be worse. Then with any luck, the Ravens can just go die in a fire. And please make sure Mr. Modell is with them at the time.

dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Nov 28, 2011 6:21pm
i've never had the hatred for baltimore that i have for pittsburgh. obviously, i hate modell with a passion, but other than that, no real animosity

wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 28, 2011 6:30pm
Ravens 27
Dawson 12
Dawson 12
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 28, 2011 6:38pm
Do you mind if I ask your age?dazedconfused;991854 wrote:i've never had the hatred for baltimore that i have for pittsburgh. obviously, i hate modell with a passion, but other than that, no real animosity

dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Nov 28, 2011 6:45pm
26. the first couple years of the move were bad but nowhere near as bad as pittsburgh goesBR1986FB;991885 wrote:Do you mind if I ask your age?

Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Nov 28, 2011 6:51pm
I'm twice your age, so imagine having experienced some really good years of football and even a title, and then watching the team you learned football while watching with your dad and grandfather ripped away as a city celebrated wildly having stolen something so cherished by so many people.dazedconfused;991897 wrote:26. the first couple years of the move were bad but nowhere near as bad as pittsburgh goes
Although I'm not by nature a hateful person, I can easily find enough loathing in my heart to cover both Pittsburgh and Baltimore (and Modell). The one difference is: I actually respect Pittsburgh. I will never respect Baltimore because the entire franchise was founded on lies and thievery.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 28, 2011 6:52pm
Here's the problem. I'm 44 and I'm sure Writer is probably my age too. We've seen the "good" years with Sipe, Kosar, etc. When Modell moved this team he took any major shot at a Super Bowl. At one time (late 80's), this team was a consistent winner. Then, they move and have been shit ever since. That 2001 Lombardi Trophy should say 'Cleveland Browns."dazedconfused;991897 wrote:26. the first couple years of the move were bad but nowhere near as bad as pittsburgh goes