
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 18, 2012 1:35pm
Do you seriously have a problem with a college kid watching his school's basketball team in one of their bigger games?vball10set;1056822 wrote:seriously? smh
Smh at you.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 18, 2012 1:46pm
vball is off his meds today I thinkwildcats20;1057359 wrote:Do you seriously have a problem with a college kid watching his school's basketball team in one of their bigger games?
Smh at you.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 18, 2012 1:52pm
relax, it was just me taking a tsun cheap shot at my buddy dave..after all, I AM off my medswildcats20;1057359 wrote:Do you seriously have a problem with a college kid watching his school's basketball team in one of their bigger games?
Smh at you.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 18, 2012 2:36pm
And I disagree. Coaching at this level, almost ALL are pretty damn bright as far as knowledge of the game. If they aren't, they wouldn't be at this level. Sure, there are some exceptions. Major difference, besides recruiting, is in preparation, mentally and physically. Yes, game adjustments make a difference. No question. But they are minor. Its what done before the ball goes up that makes the difference. Then its on the players to execute a game plan. Which we all know, is far from a perfect science.Laley23;1057351 wrote:All opinions, but I couldnt disagree more. In game adjustments are the biggest thing a coach can bring to the table, that other coaches cant duplicate, imo.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 18, 2012 2:41pm
It's a mix of both. Sure the players have to execute...that is a given. But after 3 years for watching RRod and his staff, and Hoke and his staff, there are definitely good and bad game coaches.centralbucksfan;1057493 wrote:And I disagree. Coaching at this level, almost ALL are pretty damn bright as far as knowledge of the game. If they aren't, they wouldn't be at this level. Sure, there are some exceptions. Major difference, besides recruiting, is in preparation, mentally and physically. Yes, game adjustments make a difference. No question. But they are minor. Its what done before the ball goes up that makes the difference. Then its on the players to execute a game plan. Which we all know, is far from a perfect science.

ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Jan 18, 2012 2:53pm
Illinois has to drop some game soon...right?
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 18, 2012 3:01pm
Seven of their next thirteen games are on the road (PSU, Minny, IU, tsun, Neb, OSU & Wisky) with tough home games vs. Wisky & MSU, so yes, they will drop some games.ohiobucks1;1057533 wrote:Illinois has to drop some game soon...right?

GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jan 18, 2012 6:35pm
7 of their next 13? So basically half? Like everyone else in the country?

gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jan 18, 2012 6:45pm
More importantly, they have to play Wisconsin (twice), Michigan (twice), @ Indiana, @ Ohio State, and vs MSU. That smells like at least four losses.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 18, 2012 7:12pm
read the entire post, for therein lies my point...smhGOONx19;1057872 wrote:7 of their next 13? So basically half? Like everyone else in the country?
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Jan 18, 2012 8:14pm
what does this have to do with last night?vball10set;1056955 wrote:Don't even mention them in the same sentence if you're talking about who's the better coach...how many NC's, final four's, B1G championships, All-American's, etc. does Beilein have? That's what I thought.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 18, 2012 8:55pm
Nebraska's biggest basketball win in over 10 years?

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 18, 2012 8:57pm
They returned a solid squad from last year. I'm surprised Nebraska hasn't been better actually. Had them pegged as anywhere from 6th to 8th in the B1G...solid win.
Tom Crean's Hoosiers are taking on water...
Tom Crean's Hoosiers are taking on water...

Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 18, 2012 9:00pm
That's an awful loss. IU probably looking at 10-8 at best in the B1G at this point.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 18, 2012 9:01pm
Nebraska hasnt been to the NCAA tourney since 1998

chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Jan 18, 2012 9:03pm
Tom Crean isn't coming out of that locker room for at least 4 hours.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jan 18, 2012 9:12pm
Haha repschicago510;1058065 wrote:Tom Crean isn't coming out of that locker room for at least 4 hours.

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 18, 2012 9:17pm
Nebraska assistants beware, crean will be calling you out later this week!!!

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 18, 2012 10:52pm
What kind of logic is that? All coaches are even in terms of in game adjustments, but not in pre-game prep? lolcentralbucksfan;1057493 wrote:And I disagree. Coaching at this level, almost ALL are pretty damn bright as far as knowledge of the game. If they aren't, they wouldn't be at this level. Sure, there are some exceptions. Major difference, besides recruiting, is in preparation, mentally and physically. Yes, game adjustments make a difference. No question. But they are minor. Its what done before the ball goes up that makes the difference. Then its on the players to execute a game plan. Which we all know, is far from a perfect science.
Bob Knight once said, "Get me to the Final Four. Then Ill win it" Saying the players had to not fall on their face early on. But that he would out-coach anyone in the Final Four. He did to, 3/3 lol.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 18, 2012 11:20pm
Yep. Starting to see what I expected this team to be all year long.Azubuike24;1058055 wrote:They returned a solid squad from last year. I'm surprised Nebraska hasn't been better actually. Had them pegged as anywhere from 6th to 8th in the B1G...solid win.
Tom Crean's Hoosiers are taking on water...
They just dont have any depth. Go about 7 deep. But that 7th is Matt Roth, who is essentially only a shooter (though a very good one at 60% from 3). But you have your starting 5:
-Hulls
-Jones III
-Oladipo
-Watford
-Zeller
Then the bench:
-Sheehey
-Roth
Then the guys who play, but arent good enough to play in the B1G in all honesty:
-Elston
-Pritchard
-Abell
-Moore
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 19, 2012 8:03am
wow--the B1G road schedule continues to claim it's victims....who's next?
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 19, 2012 8:35am
Bob Knight and his HUGE EGO ( I luv Knight) said that. Sorry pal, the game is won and lost most times, before the ball even goes up. Do you think that Izzo just wins games during the game? Did he just instill his teams toughness during the games? Did he just instill his teams rebounding during the game? Does Coach K just tell his players to play pressure defense and it all of a sudden just happened during a game? Did Knight just tell his players go play great defense in the half court during a game, and it automatically happen during the game? I could go on and on.Laley23;1058307 wrote:What kind of logic is that? All coaches are even in terms of in game adjustments, but not in pre-game prep? lol
Bob Knight once said, "Get me to the Final Four. Then Ill win it" Saying the players had to not fall on their face early on. But that he would out-coach anyone in the Final Four. He did to, 3/3 lol.
There is an old saying many coaches say after a practice heading into a game, "the hay is in the barn". Sorry, but the great coaches, win the games prior to the game. Yes, in game adjustments are big, no question. And no question, they do affect some outcomes. But its the preparation, execution that typically takes care of a game. A coach can't just make shit up on the run. Those things are practiced. Those adjustments, are in the plan, which was practiced prior to a game.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jan 19, 2012 10:49am
^^Agreed about the Hay is in the barn comment.
I know BK was asked a few times after games when at the end he didnt use a TO and let the team play and his answer would be he feels that he has his teams prepared better than the other coach and why call a TO to let them catch up on defense.
Awful loss last night. I turned it away for a few minutes after they went up by ten. IU had many chances to extend the lead when it was at 7 and even at 10. There are games you gotta win if you want to be a true contender......so
I know BK was asked a few times after games when at the end he didnt use a TO and let the team play and his answer would be he feels that he has his teams prepared better than the other coach and why call a TO to let them catch up on defense.
Awful loss last night. I turned it away for a few minutes after they went up by ten. IU had many chances to extend the lead when it was at 7 and even at 10. There are games you gotta win if you want to be a true contender......so

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 19, 2012 10:40pm
Barn-Burner going on in State College tonight inside the Bryce Jordan Center, on the campus of Penn State University.
PSU - 43
ILL - 39
under 8 to go.....2nd half. Good Lord.
PSU - 43
ILL - 39
under 8 to go.....2nd half. Good Lord.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 19, 2012 10:42pm
If I'm Bryce Jordan, I want my money back.Laley23;1059727 wrote:Barn-Burner going on in State College tonight inside the Bryce Jordan Center, on the campus of Penn State University.
PSU - 43
ILL - 39
under 8 to go.....2nd half. Good Lord.