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holdingout

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Nov 20, 2011 10:22 PM
After all the turmoil this season, maybe they should turn down all bowl bids. Just a thought.
Nov 20, 2011 10:22pm
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Nov 20, 2011 10:28 PM
So stupid

Kill yourself
Nov 20, 2011 10:28pm
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Nov 20, 2011 10:50 PM
No. I hope we play in and win a bowl game this year.
Nov 20, 2011 10:50pm
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Fidmeister

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Nov 20, 2011 10:55 PM
ccrunner609;981844 wrote:NCAA is behind a rock and a hard place now with the whole PSU thing. If it comes down that people at PSU knew about this and nothing was done they have to give them the death penalty if tats gets you -5 scholorships and a bowl ban. NCAA is slapping wrists for now.
That situation is completely beyond the NCAA's jurisdiction. Penn State could sue to block any NCAA penalty and win. There weren't any NCAA rules broken.

The entire situation is awful and the people involved in hiding it are all bad at life, but they broke the actual law, not NCAA law. Everyone who can do time should get the maximum. But this isn't NCAA territory. This is criminal territory.

What happened at Penn State shouldn't impact Ohio State, Miami, Oregon or anyone else under investigation for NCAA rules violations. This goes beyond sports to the lowest form of human existence. The NCAA should stay out.
Nov 20, 2011 10:55pm
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Nov 20, 2011 10:58 PM
Fidmeister;981903 wrote:That situation is completely beyond the NCAA's jurisdiction. Penn State could sue to block any NCAA penalty and win. There weren't any NCAA rules broken.

The entire situation is awful and the people involved in hiding it are all bad at life, but they broke the actual law, not NCAA law. Everyone who can do time should get the maximum. But this isn't NCAA territory. This is criminal territory.

What happened at Penn State shouldn't impact Ohio State, Miami, Oregon or anyone else under investigation for NCAA rules violations. This goes beyond sports to the lowest form of human existence. The NCAA should stay out.

Good post. NCAA is overstepping their authority on PSU
Nov 20, 2011 10:58pm
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Nov 20, 2011 11:41 PM
A coverup of ANYTHING by an athletic department = NCAA's BIG ONE, Lack of Institutional Control. This undoubtedly will be the most severe case in NCAA history.
Nov 20, 2011 11:41pm
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Nov 20, 2011 11:46 PM
I can't understand why people think OSU should turn down a bowl bid. If they don't receive a bowl ban, you take the bowl bid. Gives the players an extra game and OSU some national exposure.
Nov 20, 2011 11:46pm
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Nov 21, 2011 12:36 AM
Big Gain;981994 wrote:A coverup of ANYTHING by an athletic department = NCAA's BIG ONE, Lack of Institutional Control. This undoubtedly will be the most severe case in NCAA history.
The NCAA needs to stay the hell out of the way and let the law handle this. This is not an NCAA issue and for them to attempt to make it one is simply grandstanding. They can't come in when none of their laws were broken and slap a penalty on someone to look like they're in the ball.

This isn't their place. Penn State could sue to block those penalties and win, thus neutering the NCAA once and for all.
Nov 21, 2011 12:36am
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Nov 21, 2011 1:41 AM
holdingout;981832 wrote:After all the turmoil this season, maybe they should turn down all bowl bids. Just a thought.

says the OC poster one year late........................................
Nov 21, 2011 1:41am
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holdingout

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Nov 21, 2011 5:48 AM
holdingout;981832 wrote:After all the turmoil this season, maybe they should turn down all bowl bids. Just a thought.
Let me rephrase it...."With the season Ohio State has had,(probably going to end up 6-6)do they deserve to go to a bowl?"
Nov 21, 2011 5:48am
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Nov 21, 2011 7:00 AM
Fidmeister;982032 wrote:The NCAA needs to stay the hell out of the way and let the law handle this. This is not an NCAA issue and for them to attempt to make it one is simply grandstanding. They can't come in when none of their laws were broken and slap a penalty on someone to look like they're in the ball.

This isn't their place. Penn State could sue to block those penalties and win, thus neutering the NCAA once and for all.
Exactly.

I don't see how people think a coverup of something that is not an NCAA rule = LOIC
Nov 21, 2011 7:00am
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Nov 21, 2011 8:11 AM
There's a lot of young players that could use those extra 15 practices as a stepping stone to 2012.

Play the bowl game if you're selected (which I can't see any bowl not wanting OSU)
Nov 21, 2011 8:11am
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Nov 21, 2011 8:23 AM
darbypitcher22;982130 wrote:There's a lot of young players that could use those extra 15 practices as a stepping stone to 2012.

Play the bowl game if you're selected (which I can't see any bowl not wanting OSU)

I agree that you play it, but since Fickell will be gone afterward the practices won't help nearly as much as they normally would.
Nov 21, 2011 8:23am
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Nov 21, 2011 8:39 AM
ts1227;982142 wrote:I agree that you play it, but since Fickell will be gone afterward the practices won't help nearly as much as they normally would.
why? practice is practice, and anytime you can get extra time, especially for the younger players, you take it...and of course they should accept the bid!!!
Nov 21, 2011 8:39am
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Nov 21, 2011 8:51 AM
This isn't their place. Penn State could sue to block those penalties and win, thus neutering the NCAA once and for all.

Oh, please! please please! Can we? can we please?. It's not even an issue of the NCAA overstepping it's authority. Member institutions have given it way too much authority in much the same way that government has grown on the national level. And of course, there has been a BIG payout...to everyone but the players who have to suffer the penalties.
Nov 21, 2011 8:51am
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Nov 21, 2011 10:01 AM
Unless OSU has had a post-season ban put on them, they should play in whatever bowl game they get. Turning down a bowl invite costs the university (and the conference) money, hurts recruiting, and robs a team that can really use it an extra month of practice. I can't imagine one positive thing coming from turning down a bowl bid.
Nov 21, 2011 10:01am
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Nov 21, 2011 10:28 AM
krambman;982215 wrote:Unless OSU has had a post-season ban put on them, they should play in whatever bowl game they get. Turning down a bowl invite costs the university (and the conference) money, hurts recruiting, and robs a team that can really use it an extra month of practice. I can't imagine one positive thing coming from turning down a bowl bid.
There are no positives other than for the haters not to see Ohio State win another bowl game.
Nov 21, 2011 10:28am
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Nov 21, 2011 10:29 AM
krambman;982215 wrote:Unless OSU has had a post-season ban put on them, they should play in whatever bowl game they get. Turning down a bowl invite costs the university (and the conference) money, hurts recruiting, and robs a team that can really use it an extra month of practice. I can't imagine one positive thing coming from turning down a bowl bid.
Obviously, Miami thinks this will help them with the NCAA, I say the NCAA will see right through this ploy. Had Miami done it at the beginning of the season, it probably would've helped them.
Nov 21, 2011 10:29am
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Nov 21, 2011 10:36 AM
ccrunner609;981844 wrote:THe players and coaches that got us in trouble are going to be all gone and there wont be a bowl ban.
On behalf of all other USC Trojan fans, I will give you the advice of....

That doesn't mean shit to the NCAA.
Nov 21, 2011 10:36am
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Nov 21, 2011 11:34 AM
Let's take care of bidness this week first. If they win def go bowling...if not I can see taking a breather getting the ink dried on Urbies contract and start the recruiting hard and fast early.
Nov 21, 2011 11:34am
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Nov 21, 2011 11:40 AM
It will be interesting to see how selection process goes for Big Ten teams. If PSU doesn't win the conference, I can see many of the bowls passing over them in the selection process because they won't want to deal with the PSU issue for a month.
Nov 21, 2011 11:40am
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Nov 21, 2011 11:24 PM
Tiernan;982298 wrote:Let's take care of bidness this week first. If they win def go bowling...if not I can see taking a breather getting the ink dried on Urbies contract and start the recruiting hard and fast early.
Playing in and winning a bowl game is a better recruiting tool than calling guys when you have a month off.
Nov 21, 2011 11:24pm
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Nov 22, 2011 1:34 AM
im pretty sure the ncaa has rules stateing schools must follow a certain moral code which would allow them to go after psu
Nov 22, 2011 1:34am
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Nov 22, 2011 8:01 AM
If they think they will get a postseason ban, they should do it. But if they are confident it won't be that severe, then there's no need. Someone at OSU has to have an idea of what will be handed down.
Nov 22, 2011 8:01am
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Nov 22, 2011 8:16 AM
If they're going to get a post season ban, why would you ban yourself from post season? Either way, you're going to be banned. It's not like the NCAA has proven to be more merciful towards programs that self impose penalties.
Nov 22, 2011 8:16am