#'s 2, 4, 5, and 7 all lost

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Nov 20, 2011 12:04am
What a weekend. Stanford still playing, only up one on Cal at half.

It's been mentioned in other threads, but when the BCS standings come out they should be #1 LSU, #2 Alabama, #3 Arkansas. Va Tech number 4? Who would've seen that coming?
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Nov 20, 2011 12:07am
Virginia Tech has been less than impressive for the last month too. Barely beat Duke. Tried to choke the game away against UNC. Crazy that nobody has even mentioned them all year and they will be 4th in the BCS.
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ironman02
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Nov 20, 2011 12:07am
If Arkansas beats LSU, this whole thing is gonna get even uglier.

Also, what happens if LSU beats Arkansas, but loses the SEC Title game? Could they still end up in the Top 2 with Bama, but UGA get the auto bid? In that scenario, does the SEC get three teams in the BCS?
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Nov 20, 2011 12:09am
Unbelievable day. What happens if LSU loses next week and so does Bama? Does VT sneak in?
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Nov 20, 2011 12:10am
If LSU beats Arkansas, they would have wins over 3 BCS top 10 teams and still only 1-loss (if they lose to Georgia).

In that case, I'd think LSU clinches a spot in the BCS Title Game (either #1 or #2) with a win over the Hogs.

The big drama is going to be who is going to be the 2nd team in...
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Nov 20, 2011 12:10am
have three teams from the same conference division been 1,2 and 3 in the BCS before?
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cats gone wild
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Nov 20, 2011 12:11am
No need to look that up. The answer is no. It doesnt seem possible.
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Nov 20, 2011 12:12am
thedynasty1998;980212 wrote:Unbelievable day. What happens if LSU loses next week and so does Bama? Does VT sneak in?
Comparing resumes of the 1-loss teams...

Virginia Tech (home vs a 2 or 3-loss Clemson team)
Stanford (home vs a 2-loss Oregon team)
Alabama (home vs an unbeaten or 1-loss LSU team)
Oklahoma State (road vs a 5-loss Iowa State team)

I still don't see how Virginia Tech would have a better resume than Alabama...
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Nov 20, 2011 12:14am
VT has looked terrible this year. They are no where's near a top 5 team.
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enigmaax
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Nov 20, 2011 12:15am
ironman02;980209 wrote:If Arkansas beats LSU, this whole thing is gonna get even uglier.

Also, what happens if LSU beats Arkansas, but loses the SEC Title game? Could they still end up in the Top 2 with Bama, but UGA get the auto bid? In that scenario, does the SEC get three teams in the BCS?
"No more than two teams from a conference may be selected, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large selections, unless two non-champions from the same conference are ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings."
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Nov 20, 2011 12:15am
Well, one thing's for sure, the BCS will find a way to match up Houston and Boise. Because we all want to see mid-majors play each other in BCS games.
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ironman02
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Nov 20, 2011 12:17am
enigmaax;980224 wrote:"No more than two teams from a conference may be selected, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large selections, unless two non-champions from the same conference are ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings."
Thanks.
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Nov 20, 2011 12:17am
gorocks99;980225 wrote:Well, one thing's for sure, the BCS will find a way to match up Houston and Boise. Because we all want to see mid-majors play each other in BCS games.
That's not going to happen, Boise has a loss.

I will say this though.... given that all of these teams are losing two games and if LSU loses another, Houston would deserve a shot at the NCG if they are still undefeated.
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Nov 20, 2011 12:19am
Azubuike24;980219 wrote:Comparing resumes of the 1-loss teams...

Virginia Tech (home vs a 2 or 3-loss Clemson team)
Stanford (home vs a 2-loss Oregon team)
Alabama (home vs an unbeaten or 1-loss LSU team)
Oklahoma State (road vs a 5-loss Iowa State team)

I still don't see how Virginia Tech would have a better resume than Alabama...
They wouldn't. But they aren't a top 5 team either, yet are ranked there. I do wonder how conference championships would factor in.
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Nov 20, 2011 12:20am
If LSU loses to Ark, and Ark wins the SEC title game, does LSU and ARK play again? Or does Bama (who lost at home to LSU already) get in over LSU? Dont think I have to worry about this but......
Or what if LSU wins vs ARK and loses to UGA? Will LSU still automatically get in the title game?
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Nov 20, 2011 12:21am
Little Danny;980228 wrote:That's not going to happen, Boise has a loss.
Could happen, if Houston doesn't jump Boise in the rankings, Boise would get the mid-major AQ bid. Right now Boise's 10 and Houston is 11. And I don't see a scenario where an undefeated Houston isn't in the BCS.
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Nov 20, 2011 12:21am
Little Danny;980228 wrote:That's not going to happen, Boise has a loss.

I will say this though.... given that all of these teams are losing two games and if LSU loses another, Houston would deserve a shot at the NCG if they are still undefeated.
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Nov 20, 2011 12:24am
You have to figure if LSU ends with even 1-loss, they will play for the BCSNCG.
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Nov 20, 2011 12:24am
ytownfootball;980237 wrote:El Oh Fricken El
Why??? If LSU loses everyone else has shat the bed and lost 1-2 games.

Might as well tell everyone that plays outside the B10, SEC, Oklahoma, Texas, Oregon and USC to pack it in... these are the only schools that matter because they play in front of a big crowd.
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enigmaax
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Nov 20, 2011 12:25am
Little Danny;980228 wrote:That's not going to happen, Boise has a loss.

I will say this though.... given that all of these teams are losing two games and if LSU loses another, Houston would deserve a shot at the NCG if they are still undefeated.
Yes because that one big win......oh wait....
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enigmaax
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Nov 20, 2011 12:27am
Little Danny;980242 wrote:Why??? If LSU loses everyone else has shat the bed and lost 1-2 games.

Might as well tell everyone that plays outside the B10, SEC, Oklahoma, Texas, Oregon and USC to pack it in... these are the only schools that matter because they play in front of a big crowd.
Shitting the bed > Still in diapers ... you gotta at least try to be a big boy
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Nov 20, 2011 12:27am
LSU has beat 2 top teams tho and been ranked #1 for 2 months. Bama shouldnt get in over a team they lost to. And most one or 2 loss teams have losses to unranked teams, remember???
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Nov 20, 2011 12:27am
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Nov 20, 2011 12:30am
ytownfootball;980248 wrote:
Sep 3 UCLA Won 38-34
Sep 10 @North Texas Won 48-23
Sep 17 @Louisiana Tech Won 35-34
Sep 24 Georgia State Won 56-0
Sep 29 @UTEP Won 49-42
Oct 8 East Carolina Won 56-3
Oct 22 Marshall Won 63-28
Oct 27 Rice Won 73-34
Nov 5 @UAB Won 56-13
Nov 10 @Tulane Won 73-17
Nov 19 SMU won
Nov 25 @Tulsa 12:00 pm


That's why

TCU's schedule was no more impressive last year than Houston's and they were able to beat Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. IIRC people here in Big Ten Country thought Wisconsin was one of the best teams in the country before that game.
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enigmaax
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Nov 20, 2011 12:30am
gorocks99;980236 wrote:Could happen, if Houston doesn't jump Boise in the rankings, Boise would get the mid-major AQ bid. Right now Boise's 10 and Houston is 11. And I don't see a scenario where an undefeated Houston isn't in the BCS.
"The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game..."

If TCU wins out, it won't matter that Boise is higher than Houston in the BCS standings.