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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 16, 2011 10:56am
You think the Jags are going to score a couple of TD's with their defense? I see this game being more like a 13-9 or 10-9 affair. Browns defense isn't that bad and the Jags offense is DEFINITELY not that good.Iliketurtles;975222 wrote:As for the game Jags win 24-13.

Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Nov 16, 2011 11:04am
I think MJD will get 2 TDs and then they will ethier get a defensive one off an INT or the Browns secondary will blow a coverage and they get a passing one.BR1986FB;975254 wrote:You think the Jags are going to score a couple of TD's with their defense? I see this game being more like a 13-9 or 10-9 affair. Browns defense isn't that bad and the Jags offense is DEFINITELY not that good.

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Nov 16, 2011 11:10am
number 1 passing defense in the league..gabbert stands no chanceIliketurtles;975267 wrote:I think MJD will get 2 TDs and then they will ethier get a defensive one off an INT or the Browns secondary will blow a coverage and they get a passing one.

Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Nov 16, 2011 11:16am
Yeah I meant its highly doubtful it would happen I was just making a prediction haha.DeyDurkie5;975277 wrote:number 1 passing defense in the league..gabbert stands no chance
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 16, 2011 11:22am
You DO realize that the only reason the pass D is #1 is a) teams don't NEED to pass on them when they have the 30th ranked rush D and b) they have faced a slew of shitty QB's?DeyDurkie5;975277 wrote:number 1 passing defense in the league..gabbert stands no chance
That being said, part b applies to Gabbert. Part a & MJD could be a problem. Teams are stacking 8 in the box on him and he's still averaging over 90 ypg on the ground.

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Nov 16, 2011 11:33am
yeah i realize that, still doesn't take away that we have the number 1 ranked pass defense. and we just so happen to face a shitty qb this week too, so i see that trend to continue.BR1986FB;975299 wrote:You DO realize that the only reason the pass D is #1 is a) teams don't NEED to pass on them when they have the 30th ranked rush D and b) they have faced a slew of shitty QB's?
That being said, part b applies to Gabbert. Part a & MJD could be a problem. Teams are stacking 8 in the box on him and he's still averaging over 90 ypg on the ground.

Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Nov 16, 2011 11:39am
Durkie just for you if they Jags don't get a passing TD this week I'll support a Browns avatar from the end of the game till Thanksgiving day. If they do get one then we can just laugh at the fact that the pathetic Gabbert somehow got a TD.

royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Nov 16, 2011 6:52pm
I called a 16-12 loss last week...missed it by a FG.
This week I'm going with a 20-13 browns win....that's 2 Browns TDs. One on a return and 1 by the defense. We know the offense don't get em.
This week I'm going with a 20-13 browns win....that's 2 Browns TDs. One on a return and 1 by the defense. We know the offense don't get em.

Go4alOngbOmB
Posts: 673
Nov 17, 2011 2:46am
I predict if you don't bet the UNDER In this game (it opened at 31.5) you are a FOOL!
As for the game, another week of me looking at the TV and just shaking my head in disbelief. We have INVENTED ways to lose games....
As for the game, another week of me looking at the TV and just shaking my head in disbelief. We have INVENTED ways to lose games....

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Nov 17, 2011 2:56am
At this point, just keep losing.

shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Nov 17, 2011 12:03pm
agreed. season is over.hoops23;976039 wrote:At this point, just keep losing.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 17, 2011 1:46pm
I don't agree. Try to get a winning streak and take some momentum going into next season.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 17, 2011 1:52pm
Momentum, moschmentum....that really worked for Mangini when he rode the Ghost to a 4 game winning streak to end that one season. What happened the next? Fell on their face, AGAIN, coming out of the gate. Season ending "momentum" doesn't exist going into the following season.like_that;976472 wrote:Try to get a winning streak and take some momentum going into next season.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 17, 2011 1:54pm
Tell that to the Lions, Bills, Bengals, and Raiders this season. Just because it didn't work out for idiot womangini one season doesn't mean it won't work the next time. This team is never going to win if they don't learn how to win. I hope they give it their all and find ways to win. That confidence can go a long way next year and following years.BR1986FB;976481 wrote:Momentum, moschmentum....that really worked for Mangini when he rode the Ghost to a 4 game winning streak to end that one season. What happened the next? Fell on their face, AGAIN, coming out of the gate. Season ending "momentum" doesn't exist going into the following season.

DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Nov 17, 2011 1:56pm
They could lose every game the rest of this season, but unless someone gets them playmakers on offense and an actual scheme, we will never do shit.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Nov 17, 2011 2:22pm
Because they are building through the draft, and I think have some pieces in place, Id like to see the Browns win and build themselves up. That said, 1 more high draft pick wouldnt hurt
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 17, 2011 2:26pm
Not implying that I want them to lose but the "momentum" thing is flawed. Completely different seasons.like_that;976489 wrote:Tell that to the Lions, Bills, Bengals, and Raiders this season. Just because it didn't work out for idiot womangini one season doesn't mean it won't work the next time. This team is never going to win if they don't learn how to win. I hope they give it their all and find ways to win. That confidence can go a long way next year and following years.

killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Nov 17, 2011 8:22pm
Cleveland has to win again at some point. I'm calling for the upset here. Browns win.

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Nov 18, 2011 12:35am
All those teams have TALENT though. The Browns best offensive playmaker is a rookie WR.like_that;976489 wrote:Tell that to the Lions, Bills, Bengals, and Raiders this season. Just because it didn't work out for idiot womangini one season doesn't mean it won't work the next time. This team is never going to win if they don't learn how to win. I hope they give it their all and find ways to win. That confidence can go a long way next year and following years.
You acquire talent like AJ Green, Calvin Johnson, Suh, etc, by picking early.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Nov 18, 2011 2:43am
I root for the Browns to lose and the Falcons to lose. But upsetting Pittspuke would give me a woody...especially if we knocked them out of the playoffs.

Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Nov 18, 2011 9:23am
Agreed. i never want my team 2 lose(ok maybe if its the last game of the season and it will get them a better pick) I think if Colt can have a couple pretty good games and if the Browns are even somewhat competent on O it would be a boost(maybe not a big one but something they can hang their hats on after the shit theyve done so far) If the Browns score 2 offensive tds in this game(hell even if its a loss) it will be a step in the right direction.like_that;976472 wrote:I don't agree. Try to get a winning streak and take some momentum going into next season.

Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Nov 18, 2011 9:30am
Eh I wouldn't say the Bills have talent(still better talent than the Browns but its not like that is hard) just a lot of average to slightly above average guys who all play well together. But I agree with the rest of your post. You build in the draft by picking early but also picking the right guys for your team.hoops23;977592 wrote:All those teams have TALENT though. The Browns best offensive playmaker is a rookie WR.
You acquire talent like AJ Green, Calvin Johnson, Suh, etc, by picking early.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Nov 18, 2011 11:14am
Bills still suck. So that example is bad anyway. They will be finishing out of the playoffs.

OQB
Posts: 6,679
Nov 18, 2011 12:51pm
Here's what MJD thinks about Shurmur.....

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 18, 2011 2:14pm
Had a hot start, thats my point.Laley23;977917 wrote:Bills still suck. So that example is bad anyway. They will be finishing out of the playoffs.