Troll King;1291034 wrote:Wow What a terrible thing to say. Those kids are part of the team as well, they bust there ass in practice just like the other's. For you to say they should never see the field unless it's a blowout speaks volumes for your character. This team stinks, do you think they don't deserve a shot. they can't be any worse than what we have on the field presently.

Old Rider;1291279 wrote:Wow OQB...we posted that at the exact same time.

rrfan;1290901 wrote:Troll yes attend the games and I see a QB that is consistantly picking the ball off the ground, running for his life, and has WR's that could not catch unless the ball sticks in the facemask. You want to fix this team get a center, then a line, then some WR's and then you can complain to me about a QB.

OQB;1290998 wrote:Here are the minutes from the booster club meeting:

REDRIDER555;1291284 wrote:I will offer my opinion because I know Red Rider Nation values it, sometimes the three amigos, Nation, Troll, and Series, actually have valid points, it’s just that they have the delivery of a Russian prison guard. I agree for the most part rrfan, that Kyle has had his hands full, this year with receivers and snaps, and a host of other things, but it is obvious the kid has heart and grit, in saying that, I agree with most of you, run, run, run, I really don’t care what offensive set, they use, but let’s run the ball more. Second summers needs to be part of the offense, have him lead block, for the two sophomores, or put him back at center, he did a great job there, but he is to valuable to be on the sidelines. Third Zook should be a big part of the offense, the coaches deserve a pat on the back, they eased him back in after his injury, and hopefully we will see him on offense this week, when he was in last year the kid was explosive. Last this might be a stretch, but I would like to see Brown on the outside of the defensive line, they seem to run away from him up the middle, but he is usually doubled teamed, I would like to see him, one on one with a tackle, for as big as he is he’s pretty fast and strong, I think I’ve seen four times he kicks off and then gets down for the tackle, it would be nice to see the other qb scramble. Who knows that might open up the middle too much? A final thought I feel for the Coaches, it has to be hard to start to plan for next year, how do you look your seniors in the eye that have work hard for you for the last four years, and say, hey we are building for next year, take a seat, I think you are starting to see a little of that already, just saying that has to be tuff I would not want to walk that line. Ok Three Amigos rip me to shreds

RedRider1;1291411 wrote:Summers, Zook & Brown...likely 3 captains next year...all are talented & hard working kids that will be counted on to be leaders next year.

Good points 555.

RRN..in the Booster meetings I've been to, the coaches have more to say than what's in the minutes. Minutes are just a general review...not word for word.

rrfan;1291249 wrote:Well sometimes the truth hurts. There is not one person on this thread that does not think the same way. The problem is we are in a society where everyone should win and all get blue ribbons. That is crap and we all know it. In life not everyone wins and on the sideline not everyone is good enough to play. If you don't like it grow up!

Red Rider Nation;1291506 wrote:Im heading to the Triway/Manchester game Friday. A Must win game for both teams should be a good game. I struck out last week with Massillon/Austintown as it was a blowout.

Red Rider Nation;1291375 wrote:No i wont rip you to shreds. All good points.[/QUOT I prefer the dirty three , and I too agree with some of your points. however I stick with my opinion on the ability of the qb.

REDRIDER555;1291284 wrote:I will offer my opinion because I know Red Rider Nation values it, sometimes the three amigos, Nation, Troll, and Series, actually have valid points, it’s just that they have the delivery of a Russian prison guard. I agree for the most part rrfan, that Kyle has had his hands full, this year with receivers and snaps, and a host of other things, but it is obvious the kid has heart and grit, in saying that, I agree with most of you, run, run, run, I really don’t care what offensive set, they use, but let’s run the ball more. Second summers needs to be part of the offense, have him lead block, for the two sophomores, or put him back at center, he did a great job there, but he is to valuable to be on the sidelines. Third Zook should be a big part of the offense, the coaches deserve a pat on the back, they eased him back in after his injury, and hopefully we will see him on offense this week, when he was in last year the kid was explosive. Last this might be a stretch, but I would like to see Brown on the outside of the defensive line, they seem to run away from him up the middle, but he is usually doubled teamed, I would like to see him, one on one with a tackle, for as big as he is he’s pretty fast and strong, I think I’ve seen four times he kicks off and then gets down for the tackle, it would be nice to see the other qb scramble. Who knows that might open up the middle too much? A final thought I feel for the Coaches, it has to be hard to start to plan for next year, how do you look your seniors in the eye that have work hard for you for the last four years, and say, hey we are building for next year, take a seat, I think you are starting to see a little of that already, just saying that has to be tuff I would not want to walk that line. Ok Three Amigos rip me to shreds

REDRIDER555;1291284 wrote:I will offer my opinion because I know Red Rider Nation values it, sometimes the three amigos, Nation, Troll, and Series, actually have valid points, it’s just that they have the delivery of a Russian prison guard.

...A final thought I feel for the Coaches, it has to be hard to start to plan for next year, how do you look your seniors in the eye that have work hard for you for the last four years, and say, hey we are building for next year, take a seat, I think you are starting to see a little of that already, just saying that has to be tuff I would not want to walk that line. Ok Three Amigos rip me to shreds

Troll King;1291480 wrote:I'm glad to see that you can speak for all your buddies on here . Were you born an idiot or is that something you've worked on your whole life .

Series62;1291647 wrote:It isn't and never has been about ripping you or anyone else to shreds. We've been accused of that simply because we didn't walk "lock-step" in agreement with the comments/opinions of you and some others.

Being a senior does not make you a leader! Is every senior on the team a starter? If so, they aren't leading by example nor setting the standard of your rtr. Having to replace them is part of life, there again, a teaching moment! It may be tough, but that's coaching!

At times, you might have a leader in one of your freshman. You have to be observant beyond just dismissing them as simply a freshman.

A good example; when Robert Griffin III joined the Redskins, he is a rookie, he is along with other draftees among the youngest, but by the end of training camp, the entire team looked to him as a leader.

When were you in a Russian prison???

Series62;1291647 wrote:It isn't and never has been about ripping you or anyone else to shreds. We've been accused of that simply because we didn't walk "lock-step" in agreement with the comments/opinions of you and some others.

Being a senior does not make you a leader! Is every senior on the team a starter? If so, they aren't leading by example nor setting the standard of your rtr. Having to replace them is part of life, there again, a teaching moment! It may be tough, but that's coaching!

At times, you might have a leader in one of your freshman. You have to be observant beyond just dismissing them as simply a freshman.

A good example; when Robert Griffin III joined the Redskins, he is a rookie, he is along with other draftees among the youngest, but by the end of training camp, the entire team looked to him as a leader.

When were you in a Russian prison???

RedRider1;1291686 wrote:I'm sure you meant to include Andrew Luck in your example as well...he's assumed a leadership role with the Colts too as a rookie. Regardless, high draft picks are supposed to come in & contribute right away, and high draft picks who are also quarterbacks are expected to contribute and command a presence in the huddle (i.e. lead).

As to your greater point...show me any high school football team where a freshman is a leader? Really? If any of us said that, you'd be clowning all over that comment.

14-year olds aren't leaders. They may show those characteristics, but they're not equipped to be leaders...18 year olds barely are....but in a team setting, seniors know how the program works and what is required to be successful.

RedRider1;1291686 wrote:I'm sure you meant to include Andrew Luck in your example as well...he's assumed a leadership role with the Colts too as a rookie. Regardless, high draft picks are supposed to come in & contribute right away, and high draft picks who are also quarterbacks are expected to contribute and command a presence in the huddle (i.e. lead).

As to your greater point...show me any high school football team where a freshman is a leader? Really? If any of us said that, you'd be clowning all over that comment.

14-year olds aren't leaders. They may show those characteristics, but they're not equipped to be leaders...18 year olds barely are....but in a team setting, seniors know how the program works and what is required to be successful.

Red Rider Nation;1291698 wrote:There was one on the Orrville team in 1998! With his back against the wall and just over a minute on the clock he drove his team down the field and scored the winning TD. He proved himself over and over that he was a great leader even as a freshman

rrfan;1291649 wrote:Glad to see you add nothing to the conversation as usual! Please tell me what part of the statement makes me "an idiot"? I take it you are one of those people that think we should not keep score so little Tommy does not get his feelings hurt because he lost...