Troll King;1279300 wrote:in my opinion coach Haley is the only coach on the staff who really knows how to coach football players. He certainly knows the xs and os part of the game better than the other coaches.

RedRider1;1278789 wrote:Fantastic50 says we have the 4th toughest strength of schedule in all of D-4.

The 4 teams that have beat us are a combined 16-4...and WH will bring a perfect 5-0 record to town this week.

http://www.fantastic50.net/index.php?pr=Ohio_Region_13

Troll King;1279293 wrote:like it or not we are stuck with a spread. That is one of the things that angers me , Devault's unwillingness or inability to change the offense. We clearly do not have the talent for the spread offense so why on earth wont he change it to something that fits our type of players. Like the option or the wing T, you don't have to have a lot of size to run those offenses.

Troll King;1279309 wrote:so what we're not winning any of those tough games. Someone last year from another town I believe maybe Norwayne ,said the difference between Orrville and other teams who play tough schedules is the other teams actually win they're tough games.

Old Rider;1279330 wrote:We agree again! We have won some big games in the playoffs against some tough opponents, but thats the playoffs when we are actually playing a team with similar numbers. We rarely beat the GOOD teams of the OCC...and when we are just an average team...well, we see the results!

rrfan;1279324 wrote:You guys are all right. Lets go run the ball with a 120lb. QB and no line. I will give that a quarter why not.

And yes the WR's can't catch and the center can't snap.

Also, you don't have to be huge to be strong. Why is this team so weak? Did they do the time in the weight room? It really does not look like it!

Troll King;1279332 wrote:RR1 I understand you're only trying to keep us informed and I do appreciate that, however when we never win those tough games it's really senseless to bring it up. 6-4 or 7-3 means we're losing those tough games more often than not. I know it's not always been that way but the last few years it has been.

Troll King;1279335 wrote:well said and I'm glad we can agree upon something.

Troll King;1279293 wrote: We clearly do not have the talent for the spread offense so why on earth wont he change it to something that fits our type of players.

RedRider1;1279369 wrote:Troll,
Just trying to inform. Our schedule was tough last year with a pretty talented team. It's tough (maybe tougher) again this year with a team that doesn't have the playmakers that we did last year...and the result is the 1-4 start that we're off to.

And I'll give you the fact that typically the teams we lose to are the "good" teams on our schedule that typically go on to make the playoffs. It would be nice to win one of those every now & again.

This week would be a perfect time to see that happen.

RedRider1;1279380 wrote:I won't call that bashing, because its true. However, if that would've come from me, that's exactly how it would be framed.

We have talent...just short on playmakers...we've been spoiled with great playmakers for a long time. some teams just don't have enough.

Old Rider;1279378 wrote:I have agreed with many things that you have said lately...I just try to bite my toung a bit more having a brother on the coaching staff!

Greatwhite;1279493 wrote:First off. I dont think we could. Second this game scares me a little. Orrville always plays us tough and I am thinking we might get your best effort yet. Lastly. We wouldnt do that unless u all scored like 40. Coach would call off the dogs if it was a blowout. What comes around goes around.

Greatwhite;1279493 wrote:First off. I dont think we could. Second this game scares me a little. Orrville always plays us tough and I am thinking we might get your best effort yet. Lastly. We wouldnt do that unless u all scored like 40. Coach would call off the dogs if it was a blowout. What comes around goes around.

sanitizer;1279739 wrote:From what I have seen this year it looks like the Ville is struggling as a result of a lot of reasons already argued about. Little less talent than we have become accustom to, we definatley look small and the overall team numbers look small to me as well???? The true value of any man is how he carries himself when the chips are down, in the midst of the storm. One thing is for sure, this thread does not lack passion!! LOL! Some of the longest lasting lessons I have ever learned in my life came after a hard loss.

And I just feel like I had GREAT parents who worked their butts off to make sure I had it better than they did but not a day goes by that I don't thank the man upstairs for the boys club (before they had a building and we went to the "house"), Jerry Lane, Coach Burk, Ernie Mellow, Vodika, Coach Smitty..... I could go on and on, if you think these coaches are just coaching football you REALLY don't know Orrville sports. This is gonna be a hard year, perhaps a hard couple years...... It is my hope that we "adults" can stay level headed and treat each other with some level of respect weather we agree or not? I think its clear we all want whats best for these kids and whats best for these kids could be a 2 or 3 win season. Just something to think about? Nice to see it getting civil again! LOL!

Lets go Riders, big one Friday (I think they are all gonna be big from here on out)

sanitizer;1279739 wrote:From what I have seen this year it looks like the Ville is struggling as a result of a lot of reasons already argued about. Little less talent than we have become accustom to, we definatley look small and the overall team numbers look small to me as well???? The true value of any man is how he carries himself when the chips are down, in the midst of the storm. One thing is for sure, this thread does not lack passion!! LOL! Some of the longest lasting lessons I have ever learned in my life came after a hard loss.

And I just feel like I had GREAT parents who worked their butts off to make sure I had it better than they did but not a day goes by that I don't thank the man upstairs for the boys club (before they had a building and we went to the "house"), Jerry Lane, Coach Burk, Ernie Mellow, Vodika, Coach Smitty..... I could go on and on, if you think these coaches are just coaching football you REALLY don't know Orrville sports. This is gonna be a hard year, perhaps a hard couple years...... It is my hope that we "adults" can stay level headed and treat each other with some level of respect weather we agree or not? I think its clear we all want whats best for these kids and whats best for these kids could be a 2 or 3 win season. Just something to think about? Nice to see it getting civil again! LOL!

Lets go Riders, big one Friday (I think they are all gonna be big from here on out)

sanitizer;1279739 wrote:Some of the longest lasting lessons I have ever learned in my life came after a hard loss.

if you think these coaches are just coaching football you REALLY don't know Orrville sports.