
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Nov 13, 2011 12:55am
Of course Pac Man won. Mayweather says he wants to fight Pac Man...so no matter what Pac was winning that fight to try to set up that match.
It's all about the Benjamins. And the promoters will make a ton off Pac's fight with Mayweather.
It's all about the Benjamins. And the promoters will make a ton off Pac's fight with Mayweather.

End of Line
Posts: 6,867
Nov 13, 2011 12:57am
Bob Arum needs to shut the fuck up.

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Nov 13, 2011 12:59am
"Don't thank god for that win, because God wouldn't choose the winner to make the linen of peoples' pockets happy"
Dude on the post fight show said that.
Dude on the post fight show said that.
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Hulk Smash
Posts: 306
Nov 13, 2011 1:03am
As long as Bob Arum has a say in the matter(and he pretty much has ALL the say) I doubt Pac/Mayweather is going to happen.
Pac constantly coming forward with no head movement at all for the second straight fight.................an actual welterweight who wanted to fight(which excludes Shane Mosley) would have KO'd Manny tonight.
Pac constantly coming forward with no head movement at all for the second straight fight.................an actual welterweight who wanted to fight(which excludes Shane Mosley) would have KO'd Manny tonight.
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Hulk Smash
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Nov 13, 2011 1:05am
Was anybody watching an HBO feed?
What were the punch stats?
What were the punch stats?

sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Nov 13, 2011 1:05am
Good thing Mayweather is a bitch and doesn't really want to fight. Maybe this matchup will happen after all...Hulk Smash;970376 wrote:As long as Bob Arum has a say in the matter(and he pretty much has ALL the say) I doubt Pac/Mayweather is going to happen.
Pac constantly coming forward with no head movement at all for the second straight fight.................an actual welterweight who wanted to fight(which excludes Shane Mosley) would have KO'd Manny tonight.

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Nov 13, 2011 1:08am
LOL @ Mayweather being a bitch...
Mayweather will pick PacMan apart. PacMan doesn't want to fight PBF.
I now like PBF again after seeing that screwjob.
Mayweather will pick PacMan apart. PacMan doesn't want to fight PBF.
I now like PBF again after seeing that screwjob.

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Nov 13, 2011 1:09am
Pac threw around 140 more punches, but didn't land many of those. JMM was countering and landing some big shots.Hulk Smash;970377 wrote:Was anybody watching an HBO feed?
What were the punch stats?
Pac looked like a beaten man as the decision was being made... Hell, he looked like a beaten man from rounds 2-11

Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Nov 13, 2011 1:11am
PBF would pick Manny apart if JMM did this to him

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Nov 13, 2011 1:13am
Yes he would. You should see people on twitter if you haven't already...Hb31187;970387 wrote:PBF would pick Manny apart if JMM did this to him
Benard Hopkins said PBF would destroy PacMan.
A lot of angry tweets lol.
It's obvious why PacMan won that fight....
It keeps the PBF - PacMan dream alive...
Boxing doesn't care about robbery or injustice. Too many politics in the sport.

Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Nov 13, 2011 1:16am
Im one of the few people age 15-50 thats not on twitter lol.
yeah doesnt shock me that its blwoing up though, usually does after something questionable like this lol
yeah doesnt shock me that its blwoing up though, usually does after something questionable like this lol

sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Nov 13, 2011 1:17am
Yes, PBF is a bitch. It was a pretty interesting move to call for the fight this close to Pac's fight against JMM. Maybe a little bit of mind fucking going on to throw Pac off his game. Looks like it worked...almost.
Think about it, PBF says he wants to fight Pac now and has a date and venue ready to go. Pac starts to look ahead. The ulterior motive is to get Pac off his game so JMM knocks him out so the Pac/PBF fight doesn't happen. Instead, Pac goes the distance, and the fight is rigged so that now PBF has to live up to his word.
I'm sure PBF will find a way to bitch out of the fight with Pac, AGAIN though. So don't worry PBF fans. You can still pretend that he's the greatest.
Think about it, PBF says he wants to fight Pac now and has a date and venue ready to go. Pac starts to look ahead. The ulterior motive is to get Pac off his game so JMM knocks him out so the Pac/PBF fight doesn't happen. Instead, Pac goes the distance, and the fight is rigged so that now PBF has to live up to his word.
I'm sure PBF will find a way to bitch out of the fight with Pac, AGAIN though. So don't worry PBF fans. You can still pretend that he's the greatest.

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Nov 13, 2011 1:19am
Oh my... From @realskipbayless
Please don't tell Mayweather, but Pacquiao such a boxing genius that he used that fight as a tuneup to lure Floyd into ring. Will HURT him.

Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Nov 13, 2011 1:21am
This dude sherm is wavin some Manny pom poms

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Nov 13, 2011 1:21am
LOL....sherm03;970391 wrote:Yes, PBF is a bitch. It was a pretty interesting move to call for the fight this close to Pac's fight against JMM. Maybe a little bit of mind fucking going on to throw Pac off his game. Looks like it worked...almost.
Think about it, PBF says he wants to fight Pac now and has a date and venue ready to go. Pac starts to look ahead. The ulterior motive is to get Pac off his game so JMM knocks him out so the Pac/PBF fight doesn't happen. Instead, Pac goes the distance, and the fight is rigged so that now PBF has to live up to his word.
I'm sure PBF will find a way to bitch out of the fight with Pac, AGAIN though. So don't worry PBF fans. You can still pretend that he's the greatest.
Your disdain for PBF is noted, I guess.
PBF dominated JMM. PacMan has now had 3 close fights, including 1 draw with JMM. So your theory is both inaccurate and asinine, given past results between the two.
Also, Pac has looked, I'll say, not so good in his previous 2 fights.

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Nov 13, 2011 1:22am
Exactly.Hb31187;970394 wrote:This dude sherm is wavin some Manny pom poms
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Hulk Smash
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Nov 13, 2011 1:23am
Seems like most of us here watched a UK feed?
I took a quick look at the boxrec chat forums and it seems that the people watching the HBO broadcast aren't upset with the decision.
Pac threw around 140 more punches?
Plus being the guy coming forward the whole night?
How many times have we seen the guy who was coming forward the whole fight and also was the guy who threw more punches come away with a close controversial decision?
Taylor/Hopkins fights........................Williams vs Margarito, Martinez and Lara........................Castillo/Casamayor................happens a lot.
It will be interesting to watch the HBO replay, sounds like they called a different fight than the UK guys did.
I took a quick look at the boxrec chat forums and it seems that the people watching the HBO broadcast aren't upset with the decision.
Pac threw around 140 more punches?
Plus being the guy coming forward the whole night?
How many times have we seen the guy who was coming forward the whole fight and also was the guy who threw more punches come away with a close controversial decision?
Taylor/Hopkins fights........................Williams vs Margarito, Martinez and Lara........................Castillo/Casamayor................happens a lot.
It will be interesting to watch the HBO replay, sounds like they called a different fight than the UK guys did.

sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Nov 13, 2011 1:23am
Nope. I hate boxing period. It's horribly rigged, and the fights are painfully boring anymore.Hb31187;970394 wrote:This dude sherm is wavin some Manny pom poms
And PBF is a ducking bitch. So I really don't care about the sport.
But that theory sounds pretty solid if you ask me.

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Nov 13, 2011 1:27am
LOL. Just watching PacMan talking on Sportscenter... His body language says it all.

robj55
Posts: 9,511
Nov 13, 2011 1:33am
The british commentary was extremely biased, PAQ was the aggressor, threw more punches and landed more. I had it 7 to 5 but it was close. JMM countered well, but only really threw one punch counters and it looked like PAQ was the one taking the fight to him, which sways the judges a lot of the times.
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Hulk Smash
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Nov 13, 2011 1:45am
^^^^Exactly.
More often than not most people's definition of a robbery in boxing is: the judges scorecards do not exactly match mine.
My feed sucked tonight, it looked to me like Marquez was winning(based on clean punching) but most of the rounds were close and the guy doing the stalking and throwing more punches always has a chance on the scorecards even if the other guy is the one landing the effective punches.
We've seen it many times..............doesn't happen EVERY time but if I'm watching a close fight and want to make a bet after the final bell, my money is going to be on the agressor even if I personally scored it for the other guy.
I would win that bet far more often than not.
More often than not most people's definition of a robbery in boxing is: the judges scorecards do not exactly match mine.
My feed sucked tonight, it looked to me like Marquez was winning(based on clean punching) but most of the rounds were close and the guy doing the stalking and throwing more punches always has a chance on the scorecards even if the other guy is the one landing the effective punches.
We've seen it many times..............doesn't happen EVERY time but if I'm watching a close fight and want to make a bet after the final bell, my money is going to be on the agressor even if I personally scored it for the other guy.
I would win that bet far more often than not.

robj55
Posts: 9,511
Nov 13, 2011 2:40am
Manny outlanded JMM 176 to 138 and 117 to 100 on power punches.
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wgh raider
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Nov 13, 2011 2:56am
mayweather will take care of pacquaroid!!
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Hulk Smash
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Nov 13, 2011 3:22am
Manny 176 of 578
JMM 138 437
Punch stats don't always tell the story but it's kind of funny that the people saying Marquez won their last fight were always using punch stats to back up their case.
Guess that have to let go of that argument now.
Doesn't much matter who you're fighting, if the other guy is throwing more, landing more and constantly coming forward you better score some knockdowns.
JMM 138 437
Punch stats don't always tell the story but it's kind of funny that the people saying Marquez won their last fight were always using punch stats to back up their case.
Guess that have to let go of that argument now.
Doesn't much matter who you're fighting, if the other guy is throwing more, landing more and constantly coming forward you better score some knockdowns.

killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Nov 13, 2011 7:28am
I didn't get to see it so I'll hold off on commenting on this fight til then instead of taking the word of PBF dick riders/PBF haters.
I will say this though.....if PBF is gonna destroy Pacman like some of you are saying....why the fuck hasn't Floyd signed the contract, whooped his ass and collected the biggest purse of his fucking career? Sounds like easy money to me.
I will say this though.....if PBF is gonna destroy Pacman like some of you are saying....why the fuck hasn't Floyd signed the contract, whooped his ass and collected the biggest purse of his fucking career? Sounds like easy money to me.