Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Nov 2, 2011 2:59pm
Was this ever a legitimate claim or just something the media blew this way out of proportion after a Florida team full of track athletes happened to blow out OSU in the NC game. What about the other SEC teams? Cant think of any other SEC teams who might have speed "advantages" other than Florida.
Just other SEC fans riding the coat tails of another conference team's success.
Just other SEC fans riding the coat tails of another conference team's success.
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Nov 2, 2011 3:00pm
The term "SEC Speed" has been and always will be a myth. There are fast guys everywhere.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 2, 2011 3:01pm
I agree...everywhere except NW Indiana.Tobias Fünke;955116 wrote:The term "SEC Speed" has been and always will be a myth. There are fast guys everywhere.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Nov 2, 2011 3:02pm
I think it is more "Florida Speed." Guys from Florida are fast.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Nov 2, 2011 3:02pm
It's a load of crap. tOSU would have beaten Florida in a track meet the year they met for the NC.
Unfortunately, they played football instead.
Unfortunately, they played football instead.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Nov 2, 2011 3:03pm
South Bend is actually more "North Central" Indiana.Tiernan;955121 wrote:I agree...everywhere except NW Indiana.
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Nov 2, 2011 3:07pm
You guys always look at this from the wrong angle.
First, team speed is not quantified by the fastest guy on your team (ie. your WR's, DB's, RBs). What people are talking about is the speed and athleticism of the offensive linemen, defensive linemen and linebackers.
Second, you guys always want to compare OSU with the SEC squads. OSU is one of the few teams in the Big Ten that has this speed because they have similar quality of athletes. You have to factor the Buckeyes out when you scoff at the notion of the SEC speed. However, most of the rest of the B10 except for perhaps Michigan and Michigan State do not have the same depth of athletes that teams in the SEC or ACC (Clemson, FSU and Florida) for that matter.
First, team speed is not quantified by the fastest guy on your team (ie. your WR's, DB's, RBs). What people are talking about is the speed and athleticism of the offensive linemen, defensive linemen and linebackers.
Second, you guys always want to compare OSU with the SEC squads. OSU is one of the few teams in the Big Ten that has this speed because they have similar quality of athletes. You have to factor the Buckeyes out when you scoff at the notion of the SEC speed. However, most of the rest of the B10 except for perhaps Michigan and Michigan State do not have the same depth of athletes that teams in the SEC or ACC (Clemson, FSU and Florida) for that matter.
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Nov 2, 2011 3:09pm
Theo Riddick was the New Jersey 100m champion.Tiernan;955121 wrote:I agree...everywhere except NW Indiana.
I believe George Atkinson was the California 100m champion.
Ronald Darby is a world-class 200m runner, he actually has a junior world record in track. He also ran the fastest 40m at the junior Under Armour combins, .08 faster than anyone else (4.31 to 4.39+)
Soooo in other words, you're wrong as usual.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 2, 2011 3:11pm
Maybe I was referring to Valpo State Ernie...if I'd been alluding to South Bend that would be considered "trolling" by the gang of mods that are sworn to protect all things Holy of ND.
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Nov 2, 2011 3:13pm
I just think there are fast guys everywhere at every position. Now, the Big Ten's traditional smashmouth style isn't even comparable. It's slower. Teams like Michigan State are slow. There's nod debating that.Little Danny;955135 wrote:You guys always look at this from the wrong angle.
First, team speed is not quantified by the fastest guy on your team (ie. your WR's, DB's, RBs). What people are talking about is the speed and athleticism of the offensive linemen, defensive linemen and linebackers.
Second, you guys always want to compare OSU with the SEC squads. OSU is one of the few teams in the Big Ten that has this speed because they have similar quality of athletes. You have to factor the Buckeyes out when you scoff at the notion of the SEC speed. However, most of the rest of the B10 except for perhaps Michigan and Michigan State do not have the same depth of athletes that teams in the SEC or ACC (Clemson, FSU and Florida) for that matter.
But the teams at the top of the recruiting lists everywhere are pretty damn fast and athletic and I don't think that the SEC has an advantage there.
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Nov 2, 2011 3:14pm
Well considering how easy it is to rip on Notre Dame without actually having to make anything up, sorry I'm not sorry.Tiernan;955147 wrote:Maybe I was referring to Valpo State Ernie...if I'd been alluding to South Bend that would be considered "trolling" by the gang of mods that are sworn to protect all things Holy of ND.
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Nov 2, 2011 3:18pm
I think the team speed issue is evident from the teams in the middle to back of the conference in the SEC. Look at the athletes on TN, Kentucky, Mississippi State, Ole Miss and compare them with bottom third of the B10.Tobias Fünke;955153 wrote:I just think there are fast guys everywhere at every position. Now, the Big Ten's traditional smashmouth style isn't even comparable. It's slower. Teams like Michigan State are slow. There's nod debating that.
But the teams at the top of the recruiting lists everywhere are pretty damn fast and athletic and I don't think that the SEC has an advantage there.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Nov 2, 2011 3:18pm
I dont even know if I buy that. Alabama and LSU havent been successful lately with smaller, faster lineman.Little Danny;955135 wrote:You guys always look at this from the wrong angle.
First, team speed is not quantified by the fastest guy on your team (ie. your WR's, DB's, RBs). What people are talking about is the speed and athleticism of the offensive linemen, defensive linemen and linebackers.
Second, you guys always want to compare OSU with the SEC squads. OSU is one of the few teams in the Big Ten that has this speed because they have similar quality of athletes. You have to factor the Buckeyes out when you scoff at the notion of the SEC speed. However, most of the rest of the B10 except for perhaps Michigan and Michigan State do not have the same depth of athletes that teams in the SEC or ACC (Clemson, FSU and Florida) for that matter.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Nov 2, 2011 3:21pm
and there is tobias to rush to notre dames defense. You are worse than lotzTobias Fünke;955142 wrote:Theo Riddick was the New Jersey 100m champion.
I believe George Atkinson was the California 100m champion.
Ronald Darby is a world-class 200m runner, he actually has a junior world record in track. He also ran the fastest 40m at the junior Under Armour combins, .08 faster than anyone else (4.31 to 4.39+)
Soooo in other words, you're wrong as usual.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Nov 2, 2011 3:24pm
jesus fucking christ im not a notre dame fan (just see my language) but can't you fuckers even keep a thread on topic instead of bringing up this horse shit?
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Nov 2, 2011 3:27pm
who gives a shit about sec speed. everyone is fast. end of story.Pick6;955187 wrote:jesus fucking christ im not a notre dame fan (just see my language) but can't you fuckers even keep a thread on topic instead of bringing up this horse shit?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 2, 2011 3:53pm
LOL +1Tiernan;955147 wrote:Maybe I was referring to Valpo State Ernie...if I'd been alluding to South Bend that would be considered "trolling" by the gang of mods that are sworn to protect all things Holy of ND.
ND is the only school on here where you have to make positive statements about, otherwise its considered trolling.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 2, 2011 4:02pm
I'll say it if no one else will..
"SEC speed" just means the SEC has more black people.
"SEC speed" just means the SEC has more black people.
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Nov 2, 2011 4:03pm
+1Pick6;955187 wrote:jesus fucking christ im not a notre dame fan (just see my language) but can't you fuckers even keep a thread on topic instead of bringing up this horse shit?
I'm sorry? Hope that helps.DeyDurkie5;955175 wrote:and there is tobias to rush to notre dames defense. You are worse than lotz
Again, there are plenty of think about the program to criticize, but I just ask that you tell the truth. You guys can't manage to do that, which shows me that your mental capacity is very below average.sleeper;955235 wrote:ND is the only school on here where you have to make positive statements about, otherwise its considered trolling.
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Nov 2, 2011 4:15pm
If that was the case Grambling, Southern and Howard would be unstoppable. Central State or Wilberforce would have the best football team in Ohio.sleeper;955245 wrote:I'll say it if no one else will..
"SEC speed" just means the SEC has more black people.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Nov 2, 2011 4:54pm
I would think that teams are built differently depending on where you and who you play, so I wouldn't be surprised if southern teams value speed more as an attibute in their recruiting. Whether they are or not I don't know, but I think it is plausible.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 2, 2011 5:06pm
Yes because every black person is just dying to get into those D1 powerhouses.Little Danny;955259 wrote:If that was the case Grambling, Southern and Howard would be unstoppable. Central State or Wilberforce would have the best football team in Ohio.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Nov 2, 2011 8:18pm
I agree 100%. And its not all SEC teams that get the speedy players that are studs. Usually the top teams have more speedy players from top to bottom and have faster linemen. As for LSU, there defensive players are huge.....but fast. If you listen to any games, they always comment on how you cant run to the outside on LSU because their defensive ends run 4.5's and even one of their big linemen runs like a 4.8. You dont see many teams like that. Oregon has speed, but lack the size. Bama and LSU among others have both. OSU has speed in certain positions...but of course they get alot of good recruits. You cant say that about alot of B1G teams.Little Danny;955135 wrote:You guys always look at this from the wrong angle.
First, team speed is not quantified by the fastest guy on your team (ie. your WR's, DB's, RBs). What people are talking about is the speed and athleticism of the offensive linemen, defensive linemen and linebackers.
Second, you guys always want to compare OSU with the SEC squads. OSU is one of the few teams in the Big Ten that has this speed because they have similar quality of athletes. You have to factor the Buckeyes out when you scoff at the notion of the SEC speed. However, most of the rest of the B10 except for perhaps Michigan and Michigan State do not have the same depth of athletes that teams in the SEC or ACC (Clemson, FSU and Florida) for that matter.
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Nov 2, 2011 10:24pm
The "SEC Speed" saying is dying out.
Now it's "Denard Speed" loloolol
Now it's "Denard Speed" loloolol
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Nov 2, 2011 10:28pm
No, no its not.Trueblue23;955603 wrote:The "SEC Speed" saying is dying out.
Now it's "Denard Speed" loloolol