wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 5, 2011 10:42am
I wouldn't call it a load of shit since players are having meetings with him about his shenanigans. The bigger problem is that Shurmur is letting this shit go on though. This team sucks and now we have a disfunctional locker room...sighSportsAndLady;958404 wrote:What a load of shit..he's fucking hurt
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 5, 2011 10:45am
Like I said, I think the media is making it sound worse than it really is. When you have to use unnamed sources, you are either grasping for straws, or you are stirring the pot.wes_mantooth;958799 wrote:I wouldn't call it a load of shit since players are having meetings with him about his shenanigans. The bigger problem is that Shurmur is letting this shit go on though. This team sucks and now we have a disfunctional locker room...sigh
Best example of this is LeBron pre-decision.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 5, 2011 10:48am
Hope you are right. I did hear that one named source...joe thomas...said that Peyton seems like a different guy this year.like_that;958806 wrote:Like I said, I think the media is making it sound worse than it really is. When you have to use unnamed sources, you are either grasping for straws, or you are stirring the pot.
Best example of this is LeBron pre-decision.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Nov 5, 2011 11:18am
I'm putting the Hillis re-injury on the trainers and coaching staff.
When he first got hurt, they should have sat him down and made him stay there. Don't allow him to practice at full speed or do anything else until an MRI clearly shows he's healed.
Even casual fans know that hamstrings and high ankle sprains do nothing but linger when you keep trying to practice or play on them.
I don't give a damn about Hillis' contract or any other side issue; the team needs its top running backs healthy and you do what's necessary and SMART to get them back. That means, regardless of whatever pressures are going on inside the locker room or from the media, fans or whoever, you play it smart.
I do not believe that happened here, and that's on the organization.
When he first got hurt, they should have sat him down and made him stay there. Don't allow him to practice at full speed or do anything else until an MRI clearly shows he's healed.
Even casual fans know that hamstrings and high ankle sprains do nothing but linger when you keep trying to practice or play on them.
I don't give a damn about Hillis' contract or any other side issue; the team needs its top running backs healthy and you do what's necessary and SMART to get them back. That means, regardless of whatever pressures are going on inside the locker room or from the media, fans or whoever, you play it smart.
I do not believe that happened here, and that's on the organization.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 5, 2011 11:52am
Who is to say that his teammates calling an intervention didn't "motivate" him to come back sooner than thought/ready? I'd been hearing "very doubtful he plays against Houston" and then "BAM...Hillis practices and should be ready to go against Houston" and I'm like "WTF?"Writerbuckeye;958835 wrote:I'm putting the Hillis re-injury on the trainers and coaching staff.
When he first got hurt, they should have sat him down and made him stay there. Don't allow him to practice at full speed or do anything else until an MRI clearly shows he's healed.
Even casual fans know that hamstrings and high ankle sprains do nothing but linger when you keep trying to practice or play on them.
I don't give a damn about Hillis' contract or any other side issue; the team needs its top running backs healthy and you do what's necessary and SMART to get them back. That means, regardless of whatever pressures are going on inside the locker room or from the media, fans or whoever, you play it smart.
I do not believe that happened here, and that's on the organization.
Maybe it was on Hillis for trying to come back so he stopped letting down his teammates. I'm not being derogatory towards Hillis by saying this. It's admirable (yet dumb at the same time) that he tried.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 5, 2011 12:07pm
You'd think with Holmgren at the helm this organization would gain a little credibility...but NOOOOO...same old dysfunctional shit. Nice knowin' ya, Hillis....
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/11/cleveland_browns_peyton_hillis_9.html
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/11/cleveland_browns_peyton_hillis_9.html
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 5, 2011 12:50pm
This is what Cleveland media does! Hillis and the FO are probably reading this story and laughing at how off it is.BR1986FB;958881 wrote:http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/11/cleveland_browns_peyton_hillis_9.html
"one source says..." oh yeah, that sounds real credible. Why don't they print, "Hillis is planning to retire to take up competitive dancing" as long as you say a "source said it" it must be true...
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 5, 2011 1:46pm
I agree, but it would be nice for Holmgren and Heckert to put the media in their place and at least tell them to shut the fuck up.SportsAndLady;958956 wrote:This is what Cleveland media does! Hillis and the FO are probably reading this story and laughing at how off it is.
"one source says..." oh yeah, that sounds real credible. Why don't they print, "Hillis is planning to retire to take up competitive dancing" as long as you say a "source said it" it must be true...
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 5, 2011 1:47pm
Exactly.like_that;959037 wrote:I agree, but it would be nice for Holmgren and Heckert to put the media in their place and at least tell them to shut the fuck up.
we have the worst media in all of pro sports....so ridiculous
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Nov 5, 2011 1:54pm
Hillis is done as a Cleveland Brown, IMO.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 5, 2011 2:27pm
Most of the quotes from that article were just taken from Michael Silver (Yahoo), not generated by the "Cleveland media". There's definitely credibility to some of it, but I also think it's being somewhat overblown.
I don't really get why people would be upset about him throwing footballs at the goal post before the game. That doesn't seem like something an injured hamstring would prevent you from doing.
I don't really get why people would be upset about him throwing footballs at the goal post before the game. That doesn't seem like something an injured hamstring would prevent you from doing.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 6, 2011 8:19am
Do the Browns score an offensive TD today?
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Nov 6, 2011 8:25am
Yes 2 of them actually. They win 20-17 on a philly D 49 yard fg.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 6, 2011 8:26am
yeah...oneBR1986FB;960049 wrote:Do the Browns score an offensive TD today?
I think they lose something like 27-10
PS, not sure who posted it or where I saw it, but the article on the browns being the most predictable offense in the league, was spot on.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Nov 6, 2011 8:26am
nope
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 6, 2011 9:21am
The Browns are just fooling you idiots. Little do you know, Shurmur's plan was to be completely predictable until Week 9. He wanted to lead teams to believe all they do is dink and dunk passes. NOW is the time to use all his cards he has been hiding! These defenses will have no idea what hit them.wes_mantooth;960063 wrote:yeah...one
I think they lose something like 27-10
PS, not sure who posted it or where I saw it, but the article on the browns being the most predictable offense in the league, was spot on.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Nov 6, 2011 9:22am
I don't see the browns winning. but for the love of jebus produce something related to an offense.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 6, 2011 10:29am
Excited for this game..have a good feeling for some reason
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 6, 2011 11:22am
I recall last time you had a good feeling, the Browns lost. That might have been somebody else though.SportsAndLady;960156 wrote:Excited for this game..have a good feeling for some reason
Maybe Obendaya will have a chip on his shoulder vs his old team... I doubt it.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Nov 6, 2011 11:43am
I'm sticking with my original score...Texans 31-10
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 6, 2011 11:46am
Think I might have predicted a win vs Oakland lollike_that;960211 wrote:I recall last time you had a good feeling, the Browns lost. That might have been somebody else though.
Maybe Obendaya will have a chip on his shoulder vs his old team... I doubt it.
I didn't have a good feeling about that game though; I felt like it was one of those games we should definitely lose but somehow win (last year, Saints).
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 6, 2011 11:50am
38-5 Texans...Houston punter steps out of the back of the end zone giving the Browns 2 points.royal_k;960223 wrote:I'm sticking with my original score...Texans 31-10
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 6, 2011 11:54am
Buster Skrine gettin a start today
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 6, 2011 1:02pm
Go Browns Go
schwarzenegger'd
schwarzenegger'd
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 6, 2011 1:06pm
Everytime I see gocong...i have to chuckle about how much money he is getting paid....top 5 money in terms of linebacker.