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Big Gain

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Dec 19, 2011 5:07 PM
Does that number include the self-imposed reduction in scholarships by Ohio State of a month or so ago?
Dec 19, 2011 5:07pm
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Big Gain

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Dec 19, 2011 5:09 PM
WebFire;1019904 wrote:I bet Hoke is ****ting bricks with the #3 class in the nation.
That was only because Meyer didn't start recruiting for Ohio State until a couple of weeks ago.
Dec 19, 2011 5:09pm
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Dec 19, 2011 5:11 PM
Big Gain;1020360 wrote:That was only because Meyer didn't start recruiting for Ohio State until a couple of weeks ago.
Doubtful. Meyer can't sign 45 kids. Nice try though.
Dec 19, 2011 5:11pm
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Big Gain

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Dec 19, 2011 5:11 PM
WebFire;1019916 wrote:I did hear and you took it way out of context.
Could be, Hokey is always mumbling.
Dec 19, 2011 5:11pm
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Big Gain

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Dec 19, 2011 5:16 PM
WebFire;1020362 wrote:Doubtful. Meyer can't sign 45 kids. Nice try though.
Bad try by you. 15 were committed to OSU before Meyer started recruiting, he might not have offered some of those. 20 were committed to Michigan before Meyer started recruiting, some of those might not have committed to Michigan.
Dec 19, 2011 5:16pm
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Dec 19, 2011 5:33 PM
Tobias Fünke;1020308 wrote:Jim Tressel would have won ~10 games this season. Schutt would probably not being going to a coachless Illinois team, and Spence is debatable.



Well duh. Who would have looked at Ohio State with sanctions looming and Luke Fickell running the show? Things looked grim for awhile.

You're looking at Ohio State's recruiting this season and comparing it to Urban's efforts. You're saying basically, on a scale of 1-10 in terms of recruiting:

Ohio State 2011: 3
Urban Meyer: 10

When you need to account for Tressel, and it could be:

Ohio State 2001-2010: 9.5
Ohio State 2012+: 10

My entire point is just that this huge surge is a bit misleading because Tressel was a damn fine recruiter and you're just seeing a rush because of the void Fickell was. I think that is a completely fair statement.
During his career at OSU, Tressel managed just 3 top 5 classes, and 4 top 10 classes. Texas, Florida, Alabama, USC were all consistently ahead of OSU during his years.

Team rankings from rivals:

2002: 5
2003: 41
2004: 9
2005: 12
2006: 12 (Urban was 2nd)
2007: 15 (Urban was 1st)
2008: 4 (Urban was 3rd)
2009: 3 (Urban was 11th)
2010: 25 (Urban was 2nd)
2011: 11

It's obvious how much better Urban is and how people gave Tress more credit as a recruiter than he deserved. He was AWESOME at turning the lesser ranked players into stars, but it is much easier to win when you have better talent, which is what Urban brings to the table.
Dec 19, 2011 5:33pm
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Dec 19, 2011 6:40 PM
lol Notre Dame fans
Dec 19, 2011 6:40pm
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Dec 19, 2011 6:46 PM
2kool4skool;1020436 wrote:lol Notre Dame fans

que?
Dec 19, 2011 6:46pm
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Dec 19, 2011 6:55 PM
karen lotz;1020441 wrote:que?
Dec 19, 2011 6:55pm
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Dec 19, 2011 7:02 PM
I assume that's an animated gif?
Dec 19, 2011 7:02pm
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Dec 19, 2011 7:04 PM
karen lotz;1020454 wrote:I assume that's an animated gif?
If you could afford a computer, you'd know.
Dec 19, 2011 7:04pm
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Dec 19, 2011 7:08 PM
Pick6;1020456 wrote:If you could afford a computer, you'd know.

LOL that makes a lot of sense.
Dec 19, 2011 7:08pm
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Dec 19, 2011 8:06 PM
Hes going a good job. But a big program, plus a successful coach=recruiting isnt exactly rocket science

This class is impressive none the less
Dec 19, 2011 8:06pm
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rightfield

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Dec 19, 2011 9:09 PM
Who is next in Urban's want list? When and who is the next visit ? any juniors?
Dec 19, 2011 9:09pm
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Dec 19, 2011 9:15 PM
need some O-lineman and a stud corner, and a couple more linebackers
Dec 19, 2011 9:15pm
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Dec 19, 2011 9:19 PM
rightfield;1020612 wrote:Who is next in Urban's want list? When and who is the next visit ? any juniors?

Dead period until after the first of the year I think.

never mind on the junior
Dec 19, 2011 9:19pm
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Dec 19, 2011 9:22 PM
December 20-January 3: Dead Period (staff may have contact with recruits who have been admitted for mid-year enrollment)
Dec 19, 2011 9:22pm
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Dec 19, 2011 10:31 PM
karen lotz;1020643 wrote:Dead period until after the first of the year I think.

never mind on the junior
Saw Meyer on tv. I believe he said its a dead period, but they are aloud one phone call per week, per recruit. I could be wrong. I caught end of his convo.
Dec 19, 2011 10:31pm
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Dec 19, 2011 11:07 PM
Tobias Fünke;1020308 wrote:My entire point is just that this huge surge is a bit misleading because Tressel was a damn fine recruiter and you're just seeing a rush because of the void Fickell was. I think that is a completely fair statement.
Fickell has a pretty good reputation as a recruiter in his own right.
Dec 19, 2011 11:07pm
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Dec 19, 2011 11:22 PM
Mulva;1020994 wrote:Fickell has a pretty good reputation as a recruiter in his own right.
I think what he was saying is anyone would recruit well and should at a major program like OSU. It's not the stars though it is how you use them and if they fit in your system and style. ND is a great example, there is no way those kids should loose the games they do. It is like they decide who to offer on what number rivals or scout has them. Urban is clearly doing a great job but next year I expect him to grab many kids from the south to try and fit his system better. Also you will see aside from dunn most the big names are on defense which is where I assume the ohio and norther kids will come from in the future.
Dec 19, 2011 11:22pm
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Dec 19, 2011 11:41 PM
bo shemmy3337;1021076 wrote:I think what he was saying is anyone would recruit well and should at a major program like OSU. It's not the stars though it is how you use them and if they fit in your system and style. ND is a great example, there is no way those kids should loose the games they do. It is like they decide who to offer on what number rivals or scout has them. Urban is clearly doing a great job but next year I expect him to grab many kids from the south to try and fit his system better. Also you will see aside from dunn most the big names are on defense which is where I assume the ohio and norther kids will come from in the future.
huh?
Dec 19, 2011 11:41pm
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Dec 20, 2011 8:14 AM
shemmy, have you been hitting the eggnog already? :confused:
Dec 20, 2011 8:14am
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Dec 20, 2011 8:34 AM
Automatik;1020349 wrote:19th to 6th in a week after being on campus for what? A month if that.

OSU fans have all the right to be excited. Stay butthurt.
I just repped the **** out of that.
Dec 20, 2011 8:34am
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Dec 20, 2011 8:36 AM
Big Gain;1020360 wrote:That was only because Meyer didn't start recruiting for Ohio State until a couple of weeks ago.
Reps.
Dec 20, 2011 8:36am
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Dec 20, 2011 8:36 AM
Big Gain;1020363 wrote:Could be, Hokey is always mumbling.
Reps.
Dec 20, 2011 8:36am