SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 29, 2011 6:56pm
I thought you meant Non's theory was a joke. my bad.killer_ewok;949607 wrote:Again, IT WAS A JOKE. Serious business? Evidently.
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september63
Posts: 5,789
Oct 29, 2011 6:59pm
thedynasty1998;949587 wrote:Who thought ND was that great this year? A 9 win season is solid, and that's what they are. They are probably a top 25 team, but certainly not a top 15 team. No shame in that.
AP #16 preseason.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 29, 2011 11:34pm
lol non wasn't kidding unless I am missing something and he admitted to joking. He is so fucking dumb, he actually believes his own theory.killer_ewok;949607 wrote:Again, IT WAS A JOKE. Serious business? Evidently.
Edit: I guess a misread as well, but I will keep the post just so people know how much of an idiot non is.
I see ND winning 3 of the 4, but wouldn't be surprised if they win only 2.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Oct 30, 2011 12:00am
Like I said, probably somewhere between 16-25.september63;949616 wrote:AP #16 preseason.
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Oct 30, 2011 4:24am
I think they're between 11-15 personally. There are some computer models which take into account efficiency that have ND at 11th. Between the 20's this year, they've been largely unstoppable. But we all thought the boneheaded plays would stop, and they haven't. This Notre Dame team would struggle beating a good team because they will do something to fuck themselves.
It'll be interesting to see if Notre Dame gets its shit together for the Stanford game. That would be epic.
It'll be interesting to see if Notre Dame gets its shit together for the Stanford game. That would be epic.
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Hamp89
Posts: 625
Oct 30, 2011 10:40am
Hopefully the BK comment stuff can be put to rest. He's definitely still learning to handle himself now that's he in a 24/7 coaching spotlight. If anyone actually watched the video itself it really wasn't as bad as the media made it out to be. It was one of those things that were easily twisted and made into a big deal. Should he have said it? Absolutely not. But it goes to show you have to watch every single comment when you're the coach at ND. Not making excuses for him tho. He's learning.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 30, 2011 11:01am
Meh. Brian Kelly shouldn't be "learning" at this point in his career.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 30, 2011 11:05am
WebFire;950584 wrote:Meh. Brian Kelly shouldn't be "learning" at this point in his career.
Meh. He is learning that ND is different than any other place as far as the microscope goes. He acted the same on the sidelines at Cincinnati and probably at central and grand valley. The difference is the camera is always on him at ND. Same with talking to the media. No one gives a Fuck at those other places but that isn't the case at Notre Dame. That's what he's learning. Meh.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 30, 2011 11:11am
Meh. Sounds like excuses to me.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 30, 2011 11:14am
Ok.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 30, 2011 11:24am
Rich Rodriguez said the same kind of shit at Michigan. Always blamed someone else, including the kids. Never took any responsibility for what was happening. He also had some pretty nice meltdowns on the sidelines. Michigan fans defended it for awhile, because he was the coach and no one wants to admit failure at something.
Kelly at ND this year reminds me of RR at Michigan.
Let's get real. It doesn't take a genius to know the things he has said shouldn't be said. Hell, even as a high school coach I would never say those things. No cameras or media there at all.
Sorry, I just don't buy into "he needs to learn" BS. Unless you mean he needs to learn to mask his true personality.
Kelly at ND this year reminds me of RR at Michigan.
Let's get real. It doesn't take a genius to know the things he has said shouldn't be said. Hell, even as a high school coach I would never say those things. No cameras or media there at all.
Sorry, I just don't buy into "he needs to learn" BS. Unless you mean he needs to learn to mask his true personality.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Oct 30, 2011 11:29am
good post, and I just tried to rep ya' (but it said I had to spread some more around before it'll let me)....btw, good wins for OSU, ND and tsun this weekend, so we all should be one happy family this week---except for Gibby and SOS, of courseWebFire;950609 wrote:Rich Rodriguez said the same kind of **** at Michigan. Always blamed someone else, including the kids. Never took any responsibility for what was happening. He also had some pretty nice meltdowns on the sidelines. Michigan fans defended it for awhile, because he was the coach and no one wants to admit failure at something.
Kelly at ND this year reminds me of RR at Michigan.
Let's get real. It doesn't take a genius to know the things he has said shouldn't be said. Hell, even as a high school coach I would never say those things. No cameras or media there at all.
Sorry, I just don't buy into "he needs to learn" BS. Unless you mean he needs to learn to mask his true personality.
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Hamp89
Posts: 625
Oct 30, 2011 12:11pm
WebFire;950609 wrote:Rich Rodriguez said the same kind of **** at Michigan. Always blamed someone else, including the kids. Never took any responsibility for what was happening. He also had some pretty nice meltdowns on the sidelines. Michigan fans defended it for awhile, because he was the coach and no one wants to admit failure at something.
Kelly at ND this year reminds me of RR at Michigan.
Let's get real. It doesn't take a genius to know the things he has said shouldn't be said. Hell, even as a high school coach I would never say those things. No cameras or media there at all.
Sorry, I just don't buy into "he needs to learn" BS. Unless you mean he needs to learn to mask his true personality.
You're right, he does need to mask his personality some, like every coach does at a big time school. BK has always said how he feels and he's learning to tone that down. This has been blown way out of proportion. We get that you don't like ND/Kelly. Cool, move on.
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Hamp89
Posts: 625
Oct 30, 2011 12:12pm
Also, it was interesting to see certain players have their best game of the year as well ...
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Oct 30, 2011 12:14pm
Not sure what "proportion" would suit an ND fan but what was said is said...not sure it can be candy coated.Hamp89;950659 wrote:You're right, he does need to mask his personality some, like every coach does at a big time school. BK has always said how he feels and he's learning to tone that down. This has been blown way out of proportion. We get that you don't like ND/Kelly. Cool, move on.
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Hamp89
Posts: 625
Oct 30, 2011 12:18pm
ytownfootball;950662 wrote:Not sure what "proportion" would suit an ND fan but what was said is said...not sure it can be candy coated.
Did you actually watch the interview or just making your assessment off the media's over blown take on it? I agreed he should not have said it.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Oct 30, 2011 12:24pm
Very valid point. As I said, I know he was trying to fire up the upperclassmen...and it clearly worked.Hamp89;950661 wrote:Also, it was interesting to see certain players have their best game of the year as well ...
I just don't know what the long-term ramifications are going to be from this.
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Hamp89
Posts: 625
Oct 30, 2011 12:25pm
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Oct 30, 2011 12:26pm
No, I didn't watch the interview in its entirety, but there isn't a "context" issue with what he said. He just should shut the hell up. Even if he claims that he said what he said to motivate them it is just a fail, he hasn't been around there long enough nor won enough games to use that tool effectively, particularly given his actions on the sidelines.Hamp89;950665 wrote:Did you actually watch the interview or just making your assessment off the media's over blown take on it? I agreed he should not have said it.
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Hamp89
Posts: 625
Oct 30, 2011 12:26pm
sherm03;950667 wrote:Very valid point. As I said, I know he was trying to fire up the upperclassmen...and it clearly worked.
I just don't know what the long-term ramifications are going to be from this.
Long term ramifications? None IMO. It will be forgotten in a week. They cleared the air "in house". I think all is good going forward. Winning cures all.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Oct 30, 2011 12:33pm
I hope so. And judging by how the players were acting around Kelly yesterday, it would appear that would be correct. Blanton was laughing with Kelly...Jonas Gray had his arm around Kelly...others stepped up and played great.Hamp89;950673 wrote:Long term ramifications? None IMO. It will be forgotten in a week. They cleared the air "in house". I think all is good going forward. Winning cures all.
I just hope that it really is all forgotten, because I would hate a certain junior linebacker to decide to make the jump instead of coming back for his senior season because of that comment.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Oct 30, 2011 12:33pm
I really hope they do because I would love nothing more than for someone to expose Stanford for the pretenders that they are.Tobias Fünke;950504 wrote:I think they're between 11-15 personally. There are some computer models which take into account efficiency that have ND at 11th. Between the 20's this year, they've been largely unstoppable. But we all thought the boneheaded plays would stop, and they haven't. This Notre Dame team would struggle beating a good team because they will do something to **** themselves.
It'll be interesting to see if Notre Dame gets its **** together for the Stanford game. That would be epic.
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Hamp89
Posts: 625
Oct 30, 2011 12:33pm
ytownfootball;950671 wrote:No, I didn't watch the interview in its entirety, but there isn't a "context" issue with what he said. He just should shut the hell up. Even if he claims that he said what he said to motivate them it is just a fail, he hasn't been around there long enough nor won enough games to use that tool effectively, particularly given his actions on the sidelines.
Also, my take was that it was motivational. I don't think that was BK's intention. The reporter kind of walked him into those comments when he asked if BK could get the type of kids he wants at ND. Like I said, watch the video and I think you'll agree it's all a bit overblown.
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Oct 30, 2011 12:41pm
Brian Kelly, midway thru his 2nd year at Notre Dame, has won a bowl game and has 1 win against ND's main rival in 2 tries.WebFire;950609 wrote:Rich Rodriguez said the same kind of shit at Michigan. Always blamed someone else, including the kids. Never took any responsibility for what was happening. He also had some pretty nice meltdowns on the sidelines. Michigan fans defended it for awhile, because he was the coach and no one wants to admit failure at something.
Kelly at ND this year reminds me of RR at Michigan.
Let's get real. It doesn't take a genius to know the things he has said shouldn't be said. Hell, even as a high school coach I would never say those things. No cameras or media there at all.
Sorry, I just don't buy into "he needs to learn" BS. Unless you mean he needs to learn to mask his true personality.
RichRod never even came close to beating Ohio State in 3 seasons and he took Michigan to one bowl game and got absolutely pasted.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 30, 2011 12:43pm
Apparently "winning" is going 5-3.Hamp89;950673 wrote:Long term ramifications? None IMO. It will be forgotten in a week. They cleared the air "in house". I think all is good going forward. Winning cures all.
Only in South Bend..