Week 8: Cleveland Browns (3-3) @ San Francisco 49ers (5-1)

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Oct 27, 2011 2:01 PM
coach_bob1;946846 wrote:No, just waste your words cheering for a the fake Browns. The team you grew up with is in Baltimore, regardless of whether the city got to keep their records.
As soon as someone brings that out-I know they know nothing about football. Thanks for showing your true knowledge!
Oct 27, 2011 2:01pm
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Oct 27, 2011 2:11 PM
fortfan;946921 wrote:As soon as someone brings that out-I know they know nothing about football. Thanks for showing your true knowledge!
actually, coach bob coached and played football so he knows a lot more than any of us.
Oct 27, 2011 2:11pm
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Oct 27, 2011 2:18 PM
I was surprised that with so many former Buckeyes on the 49ers, Columbus wouldn't choose to show that game...
Oct 27, 2011 2:18pm
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Oct 27, 2011 2:48 PM
coach_bob1;946833 wrote:They do when they are in a mixed market. At the beginning of the season, Channel 10 lets restaurants know they will not be showing only Browns games, only Bengals games, and only Steelers games. They even send out schedules to show you when all 3 play at the same time on CBS and let you know that which team they broadcast in this situation will be rotated due to the diverse market they serve.
This is totally not true. They don't rotate at all. I have no idea where you got such information, but your source is simply wrong.

Frank Willson of Ch. 10 regularly posts on a Browns site known as The OBR. He has told us that the basic rule is (1) who they think will get the most ratings. That's it. There is no rotation.

Based on that: if the Browns and Cincy are playing, that game is always shown. If the Browns-Pittsburgh is showing, that game is always shown. If Cincy-Pittsburgh is showing, that game is always shown. There is no rotation. They know those three games will garner the most ratings because of the fan makeup in Columbus and past ratings.

Willson has also said the decision on which game to be broadcast is made the Wednesday of the week BEFORE the game is shown -- about 10 days out. So they do not have any schedule made up of how games will be shown or in what order they will be broadcast.
Oct 27, 2011 2:48pm
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Oct 27, 2011 6:11 PM
What kind of a Mickey Fucking Mouse organization are they running here? Aaron Curry (Raiders) comes out today and says that one of the Browns O-Linemen were tipping whether it was a run or pass by their stance.

Personally I think it was probably Lauvao or Pinkston (92.3 seems to think it was Mack) but even if it were one of the young guys, shouldn't the COACHING STAFF picked it up on film before Curry (who said it was pretty easy to see from scout films) did? They better get that shit corrected quickly, now that the word is out, or McCoy won't make it past the Texans game.

92.3 also had Tom Heckert on today. To recap he said that "McCoy will be the starter, opening day, 2012" and that "the Peyton Hillis situation was all the media...nothing to see here."
Oct 27, 2011 6:11pm
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Oct 27, 2011 6:54 PM
Writerbuckeye;946954 wrote:This is totally not true. They don't rotate at all. I have no idea where you got such information, but your source is simply wrong.

Frank Willson of Ch. 10 regularly posts on a Browns site known as The OBR. He has told us that the basic rule is (1) who they think will get the most ratings. That's it. There is no rotation.

Based on that: if the Browns and Cincy are playing, that game is always shown. If the Browns-Pittsburgh is showing, that game is always shown. If Cincy-Pittsburgh is showing, that game is always shown. There is no rotation. They know those three games will garner the most ratings because of the fan makeup in Columbus and past ratings.

Willson has also said the decision on which game to be broadcast is made the Wednesday of the week BEFORE the game is shown -- about 10 days out. So they do not have any schedule made up of how games will be shown or in what order they will be broadcast.
I never sais they have a set schedule. They do know which games are CBS and which are FOX and they know when the Bengals, Browns, and Steelers are playing on CBS at the same time. They have also made it very well known that they will not show the same team every week in order to satisfy their viewership. That is what I mean by "rotating". They do try to be somewhat fair with it. As I can recall, this is the first week this season the Bengals are being shown instead of the Browns.
Oct 27, 2011 6:54pm
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Oct 27, 2011 7:01 PM
fortfan;946921 wrote:As soon as someone brings that out-I know they know nothing about football. Thanks for showing your true knowledge!
Look, I know it hurts, but it is true that the Browns that we know now are not the same organization that the Browns were when most of us were growing up. It is a fact. And I am not the one who brought up fans or introduced the word "fake". Blame like_that for that argument. I simply commented on why Columbus is showing the Bengals game instead of the Browns game. He is the one who started with the attacking posts. If I wasn't goling to be at work, I would rather see the Browns/49ers game because San Fran is actually a more compelling story this season.
Oct 27, 2011 7:01pm
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Oct 27, 2011 7:10 PM
coach_bob1;947221 wrote:Look, I know it hurts, but it is true that the Browns that we know now are not the same organization that the Browns were when most of us were growing up. It is a fact. And I am not the one who brought up fans or introduced the word "fake". Blame like_that for that argument. I simply commented on why Columbus is showing the Bengals game instead of the Browns game. He is the one who started with the attacking posts. If I wasn't goling to be at work, I would rather see the Browns/49ers game because San Fran is actually a more compelling story this season.

Actually I didn't start with the attacking posts. You made a statement about a Bengals game not being shown in a previous week, and all I said was the game was blacked out, which only bengals "fans" have to blame for themselves. You decided to get butt hurt and resort to "attacking posts" after that. Another fail.

Also once again, "fairness" is not a factor into what is televised, smh.
Oct 27, 2011 7:10pm
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Oct 27, 2011 7:15 PM
like_that;946785 wrote:Fairness for what? The game was blacked out. The only people to blame for that are the so called Bengals "fans."
Like_that,

So by referring to Bengals fans as "so called" you weren't inferring that Bengals fans aren't real? Seems like you're attacking them to me. If you're not, than I apologize for reading into something that isn't there.
Oct 27, 2011 7:15pm
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Oct 27, 2011 7:32 PM
coach_bob1;947235 wrote:Like_that,

So by referring to Bengals fans as "so called" you weren't inferring that Bengals fans aren't real? Seems like you're attacking them to me. If you're not, than I apologize for reading into something that isn't there.
You got mad that he quoted fans? get that mangina fixed
Oct 27, 2011 7:32pm
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Oct 27, 2011 7:36 PM
DeyDurkie5;947261 wrote:You got mad that he quoted fans? get that mangina fixed
I got mad because he has been dogging Bengals fans (which I've been one for over 25 years) by saying none of us are real fans for the past month plus instead of worrying about his own team.

Speaking of getting things fixed, have you paid up on your bet yet?
Oct 27, 2011 7:36pm
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Oct 27, 2011 7:51 PM
Get this shit outta here. If you guys want to go back & forth about Bengals/Browns, attendance, fan bases, etc start another thread about it. I'd prefer to talk about this Sunday's pending bloodbath.
Oct 27, 2011 7:51pm
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Oct 27, 2011 7:56 PM
coach_bob1;947266 wrote:I got mad because he has been dogging Bengals fans (which I've been one for over 25 years) by saying none of us are real fans for the past month plus instead of worrying about his own team.

Speaking of getting things fixed, have you paid up on your bet yet?

Still trolling and thread shitting I see.
Can't wait for the hypocritical jordo to chime in.

And Browns fans "run amok" in bengals threads.....
Oct 27, 2011 7:56pm
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Oct 27, 2011 8:05 PM
BR1986FB;947277 wrote:Get this **** outta here. If you guys want to go back & forth about Bengals/Browns, attendance, fan bases, etc start another thread about it. I'd prefer to talk about this Sunday's pending bloodbath.
+1, i'm done w/ coach bob
Oct 27, 2011 8:05pm
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Oct 27, 2011 8:10 PM
BR1986FB;947277 wrote:Get this **** outta here. If you guys want to go back & forth about Bengals/Browns, attendance, fan bases, etc start another thread about it. I'd prefer to talk about this Sunday's pending bloodbath.
Actually was trying to contribute to the conversation. I really think the Browns lack of a #1 receiver (Little is a 2 or 3 on most teams) will be a deciding factor. Running, dinking and dunking can only get you so far.
Oct 27, 2011 8:10pm
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Oct 27, 2011 8:13 PM
Anyway, if the browns find a way to stop the knees running game they could pull this off. Alex smith hasn't had to win a game yet this season.
Oct 27, 2011 8:13pm
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Oct 27, 2011 8:14 PM
coach_bob1;947309 wrote:Actually was trying to contribute to the conversation. I really think the Browns lack of a #1 receiver (Little is a 2 or 3 on most teams) will be a deciding factor. Running, dinking and dunking can only get you so far.
I got it. No problem. I just jump on a Browns/Niners thread and see a bunch of Bengals stuff going on and am like WTF?
Oct 27, 2011 8:14pm
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Oct 27, 2011 8:20 PM
like_that;947318 wrote:Anyway, if the browns find a way to stop the knees running game they could pull this off. Alex smith hasn't had to win a game yet this season.
I think the Browns defense will hold their own but will they score enough points?

If I'm Shurmur, I put Carlton Mitchell in there early, tell him to run as fast as he can in a straight line until he can't run anymore, and have McCoy chuck it as far as he can (so about 35 yards) to try to loosen up the Niners defense. Whether the play is successful, or not, you've GOT to show it to open things up for Moore, Little and the other WR's.

They REALLY need to get this running game going. Heard a stat today that when McCoy looked good last year he didn't really have to throw. His high in passes in a game last year was 41 and that was in a blowout against Pittsburgh. Other than that, he has one game where he threw 33. Other than that, ALL under 30 passes. This year he has thrown 32 or more passes in EVERY game. This team won't consistently win if they put the world on his shoulders. He's just not the gunslinger type.
Oct 27, 2011 8:20pm
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Oct 27, 2011 8:27 PM
BR1986FB;947175 wrote:What kind of a Mickey ****ing Mouse organization are they running here? Aaron Curry (Raiders) comes out today and says that one of the Browns O-Linemen were tipping whether it was a run or pass
It's not that uncommon. I can normally tell by watching the blindside tackle's heels. When you're that size, it's tough too shift your weight back into your pass pro stance without your heels flat. The key is being able to do it on a draw to fool the defense or having your heels up on a play action to sell the run.
Oct 27, 2011 8:27pm
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Oct 27, 2011 8:37 PM
coach_bob1;947346 wrote:It's not that uncommon. I can normally tell by watching the blindside tackle's heels. When you're that size, it's tough too shift your weight back into your pass pro stance without your heels flat. The key is being able to do it on a draw to fool the defense or having your heels up on a play action to sell the run.
The problem that I have is that it's out there now thanks to Curry. If they don't plug a hole in that dike, the opposition is going to go over their films with a fine tooth comb and expose it. The Browns are already at a disadvantage as it is. :(
Oct 27, 2011 8:37pm
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Oct 27, 2011 8:45 PM
I bet most teams already knew it. Everybody does it.
Oct 27, 2011 8:45pm
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Oct 28, 2011 9:18 PM
I would just like to interject and say: Go Browns! :thumbup:
Oct 28, 2011 9:18pm
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Oct 28, 2011 11:36 PM
BRF;948707 wrote: Go Browns!
+1
Oct 28, 2011 11:36pm