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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 19, 2011 6:45pm
After looking over Seattle's roster, this is a VERY bad matchup for the Browns offense.
Probably won't be able to run the ball, with or without Hillis, due to the Hawks' size up front. Normally, teams in a 4-3 have their monsters on the inside at the tackles. Not only does Seattle have this but they've moved Red Bryant, another 320+ lber out to DE. I think they rank 7th against the run and did a pretty good job shutting down the Giants rush attack. They only have one light in the pants rush DE which you'd think would bode well for the Browns pass offense (no pass rush). Not so fast...
The Seahawks also have HUGE DB's (both corners are 220+) so they should be vulnerable to the deep ball. The problem there is a) the Browns have no legit deep threat and b) they don't have a QB that can consistently throw deep AND accurate. Soooo...we're likely looking at more dink & dunk.
Probably won't be able to run the ball, with or without Hillis, due to the Hawks' size up front. Normally, teams in a 4-3 have their monsters on the inside at the tackles. Not only does Seattle have this but they've moved Red Bryant, another 320+ lber out to DE. I think they rank 7th against the run and did a pretty good job shutting down the Giants rush attack. They only have one light in the pants rush DE which you'd think would bode well for the Browns pass offense (no pass rush). Not so fast...
The Seahawks also have HUGE DB's (both corners are 220+) so they should be vulnerable to the deep ball. The problem there is a) the Browns have no legit deep threat and b) they don't have a QB that can consistently throw deep AND accurate. Soooo...we're likely looking at more dink & dunk.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 19, 2011 6:54pm
Way to spread some optimism BRBR1986FB;939071 wrote:After looking over Seattle's roster, this is a VERY bad matchup for the Browns offense.
Probably won't be able to run the ball, with or without Hillis, due to the Hawks' size up front. Normally, teams in a 4-3 have their monsters on the inside at the tackles. Not only does Seattle have this but they've moved Red Bryant, another 320+ lber out to DE. I think they rank 7th against the run and did a pretty good job shutting down the Giants rush attack. They only have one light in the pants rush DE which you'd think would bode well for the Browns pass offense (no pass rush). Not so fast...
The Seahawks also have HUGE DB's (both corners are 220+) so they should be vulnerable to the deep ball. The problem there is a) the Browns have no legit deep threat and b) they don't have a QB that can consistently throw deep AND accurate. Soooo...we're likely looking at more dink & dunk.
I'm curious to watch Earl Thomas and Alan Branch play this game. I know some people thought Earl Thomas would be a great safety and this is my second time being able to watch him play. Also going to be eyeing Max Unger, another center that was taken in the first round. Curious to see how he fares compared to Alex Mack.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 22, 2011 9:40am
You may not get to see Unger in that I'd heard there's a good chance he won't play which bodes well for the Browns D-Line (replacement center and two rookies starting on the right side for the Sea Chickens).Commander of Awesome;939084 wrote:Way to spread some optimism BR
Sounds like Earl Thomas wants to prove something after the Browns passed on him....
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Oct 22, 2011 12:39pm
Is Haden expected to play? I have Sidney Rice on my bench in fantasy, but if Haden isnt playing I'm thinking of starting him.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 22, 2011 1:03pm
He practiced yesterday. Game time decision but I think he'll go.Hb31187;941476 wrote:Is Haden expected to play? I have Sidney Rice on my bench in fantasy, but if Haden isnt playing I'm thinking of starting him.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Oct 22, 2011 4:15pm
Yeah , probably wont start him then bc if Haden practiced friday, I have a feeling itd take a lottttt to keep him from playin.BR1986FB;941485 wrote:He practiced yesterday. Game time decision but I think he'll go.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Oct 22, 2011 10:29pm
+1I will take 10 PTS from the defense any day.
I'm seeing it differently....more time for McCoy, Little in instead of Robiskie.....could be a BIG day for Colt.They only have one light in the pants rush DE which you'd think would bode well for the Browns pass offense (no pass rush). Not so fast...
The Seahawks also have HUGE DB's (both corners are 220+) so they should be vulnerable to the deep ball. The problem there is a) the Browns have no legit deep threat and b) they don't have a QB that can consistently throw deep AND accurate. Soooo...we're likely looking at more dink & dunk.
I'll be at the game with Mrs Hits ...SEC 342 up at the top...I'll have my BG Falcons hat on. If you see me say Hi!.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 23, 2011 9:41am
Browns need to win this one. I'm not expecting it but if they don't it will get uglier & uglier week by week. The fan base has an unreal expectation for the talent on the roster.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 23, 2011 9:44am
They'll beat the Seahawks
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Oct 23, 2011 9:54am
I agree. I'm much more optimistic today than I was last week. Don't turn the ball over and get solid OL play and they should win.SportsAndLady;942156 wrote:They'll beat the Seahawks
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Oct 23, 2011 10:05am
I don't know BR....I don't know too many people who thought we'd win more than 8 games....most people thought 6-7. We could easily be 3-2 right now, and Peyton Hillis has been a non factor. Is 6 wins unreal? I admit I was optimistic...expected some improvement...maybe 7 or 8 wins.The fan base has an unreal expectation for the talent on the roster.
To me, the biggest disappointment has been the play (or no play) of Hillis, but especially the coaching.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Oct 23, 2011 10:07am
When it was announced that Manning was done for the season...some people really thought they had a shot of going into the bye undefeated...craziness. There just isn't the talent at the skill positions. No franchise qb, wr or rb....the end of the season is going to be brutal....ughHitsRus;942177 wrote:I don't know BR....I don't know too many people who thought we'd win more than 8 games....most people thought 6-7. We could easily be 3-2 right now, and Peyton Hillis has been a non factor. Is 6 wins unreal?
To me, the biggest disappointment has been the coaching.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Oct 23, 2011 10:12am
damn game isn't being shown in toledo. figures the one game i don't go to this year now i have to go to the bar and watch.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 23, 2011 10:15am
Exactly my point. I was one of them projecting a 7-9 record. This is probably a 4-5 win team, at best.HitsRus;942177 wrote:I don't know BR....I don't know too many people who thought we'd win more than 8 games....most people thought 6-7.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Oct 23, 2011 10:23am
An arguement could have been made at the beginning of the season that that Hillis was a franchise RB. But it should have been obvious that we lacked a #1 WR, Colt McCoy was a question mark, and there was no depth in the OL or in the secondary....not to mention theDL and LB core.No franchise qb, wr or rb....the end of the season is going to be brutal....ugh
...and the schedule the last part of the season... ugh....it would be incredible to get 1 win out of the last 5. I'll be switching to Tribe Hot stove by Jan 1.
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Oct 23, 2011 12:15pm
Incase you can't find the game on television, the internet, or the radio, I'm doing the play-by-play for BrownsGab today over on Twitter.
http://www.brownsgab.com/2011/10/23/dont-miss-todays-browns-vs-seahawks-game-follus-us-on-twitter/
http://www.brownsgab.com/2011/10/23/dont-miss-todays-browns-vs-seahawks-game-follus-us-on-twitter/
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 23, 2011 12:31pm
Haden is active. Hillis out.Hb31187;941476 wrote:Is Haden expected to play? I have Sidney Rice on my bench in fantasy, but if Haden isnt playing I'm thinking of starting him.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Oct 23, 2011 12:35pm
figured he give it a go. hes a gamer, and a top 5-7 CB arguably in the NFL.BR1986FB;942285 wrote:Haden is active. Hillis out.
Non
Posts: 9,517
Oct 23, 2011 12:41pm
This will be a real stinker.
Browns win though.
Browns 17
Seahawks 12
Browns win though.
Browns 17
Seahawks 12
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Oct 23, 2011 12:42pm
Yeah, it is nice to have an actual shutdown corner....we also have an offense that is shutdown
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 23, 2011 12:56pm
I'd love to see them grab Minnifield's kid in the upcoming draft to play opposite of him.wes_mantooth;942297 wrote:Yeah, it is nice to have an actual shutdown corner....we also have an offense that is shutdown
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Oct 23, 2011 1:03pm
game is not on fox in cleveland right now. Any reason?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 23, 2011 1:04pm
thank you for your brilliant insight, Steelers fan. May we be so lucky to obtain your knowledge on next weeks game.Non;942296 wrote:This will be a real stinker.
Browns win though.
Browns 17
Seahawks 12
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 23, 2011 1:04pm
I think they will go to that game. Just wanted to show the international stuff.IggyPride00;942319 wrote:game is not on fox in cleveland right now. Any reason?
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Oct 23, 2011 1:05pm
.BR1986FB;942322 wrote:I think they will go to that game. Just wanted to show the international stuff.
thanks. its on now, i was worried there for a minute