lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Oct 12, 2011 5:09pm
schadjoe Joe Schad
NCAA announces it has concluded its investigation into Auburn with no major findings of violations
NCAA announces it has concluded its investigation into Auburn with no major findings of violations
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Oct 12, 2011 5:13pm
And this, my friends, is why you do not cooperate with the NCAA. They have very little power to do anything if you don't readily give them access to documents.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 12, 2011 5:14pm
slmandel Stewart Mandel
"Any allegations of major rules violations must meet a burden of proof, which is a higher standard than rampant public speculation online"
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 12, 2011 5:20pm
Finebaum's meltdown on his radio show should be pretty epic.
osu45804
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Oct 12, 2011 5:20pm
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 12, 2011 5:21pm
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 12, 2011 5:21pm
Danny Sheridan will be on Finebaum in 10 minutes.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Oct 12, 2011 5:27pm
Apparently, the guys implicating Auburn in the HBO special, refused to cooperate(i.e. Booster got to them before the NCAA did).
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Oct 12, 2011 5:37pm
se-alum;931538 wrote:And this, my friends, is why you do not cooperate with the NCAA. They have very little power to do anything if you don't readily give them access to documents.
This.
....but the system is not broken!
no major violations were found....there is a difference.Auburn innocent
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Oct 12, 2011 5:48pm
As innocent as OJ and Casey Anthony
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Oct 12, 2011 6:11pm
More proof how worthless the NCAA has become.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 12, 2011 6:12pm
Writerbuckeye;931595 wrote:More proof how worthless the NCAA has become.
You say that now...
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Oct 12, 2011 6:26pm
Yep. I've learned my lesson on this one. It doesn't pay to cooperate with this group. They're too corrupt and self-serving. I've adopted the SEC view of this from now on: just keep your mouths shut. If nobody talks, there's a good chance they'll have to walk away.karen lotz;931598 wrote:You say that now...
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Oct 12, 2011 6:52pm
How so?Writerbuckeye;931616 wrote:They're too corrupt and self-serving.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Oct 12, 2011 6:56pm
you beat me to it :thumbup:KR1245;931565 wrote:As innocent as OJ and Casey Anthony
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Oct 12, 2011 6:58pm
I don't believe the NCAA cares about punishing those who are the biggest cheats; it cares about continuing to take in its billions of dollars from basketball, and lumber along like the bloated bureaucratic whale it has become. In the meantime, it will pick off the schools that self-report or are too stupid to know how to hide information; and then pat itself on the back for the great job its doing policing amateur sports.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Oct 12, 2011 8:19pm
So, what is it that everyone knows Auburn hid from the NCAA? Is this all because you assume that they must've paid Cam Newton because his dad tried to get money out of Mississippi State or is it that you believe random bloggers or that everyone must be cheating because your school got busted?
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 12, 2011 8:28pm
enigmaax;931730 wrote:So, what is it that everyone knows Auburn hid from the NCAA? Is this all because you assume that they must've paid Cam Newton because his dad tried to get money out of Mississippi State or is it that you believe random bloggers or that everyone must be cheating because your school got busted?
I'm pretty sure you know the answer to that question.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Oct 12, 2011 8:56pm
Well, let's see...Oregon, LSU, OSU, USC, Miami have all had problems in the past year. Alabama and Auburn have been implicated but nothing has been found (those good ole boys know how to keep their mouths closed and their hands open). So yes, I believe most, if not all, of the big boys cheat and if they do it well -- don't get caught.enigmaax;931730 wrote:So, what is it that everyone knows Auburn hid from the NCAA? Is this all because you assume that they must've paid Cam Newton because his dad tried to get money out of Mississippi State or is it that you believe random bloggers or that everyone must be cheating because your school got busted?
HitsRus
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Oct 12, 2011 9:06pm
I can't speak for writerbuckeye, but given the limited choices in your loaded question, I'll go with believing the random bloggers, becauseenigmaax;931730 wrote:So, what is it that everyone knows Auburn hid from the NCAA? Is this all because you assume that they must've paid Cam Newton because his dad tried to get money out of Mississippi State or is it that you believe random bloggers or that everyone must be cheating because your school got busted?
1)we all know where there is smoke, there is fire.
2) Auburn, historically is one of the worst violators of NCAA rules...the owner of 7 seven major infractions.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ycn-7965352
3) given that, they have had a lot of practice in the art of self defense. Just look at the way OSU bungled a picayune 'improper benefits' case into a major problem vs. the huge $$$ involved at AU. While OSU couldn't stop beating itself up, Auburn deftly ducked and dodged. They should get a halo or something, don't you think?
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 12, 2011 9:08pm
HitsRus;931812 wrote:I can't speak for writerbuckeye, but given the limited choices in your loaded question, I'll go with believing the random bloggers, because
1)we all know where there is smoke, there is fire.
No one here believed the SI article on OSU or the article about the agent paying Holmes while he was still at OSU or any of the other items that pointed out the "smoke." Why is that?
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Oct 12, 2011 9:11pm
Innocent is the wrong word.
Not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is more appropriate.
Not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is more appropriate.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Oct 12, 2011 9:13pm
Thanks for making my point about Auburn.
You mean the smoke at OSU?...I thought this thread was about Auburn!
You mean the smoke at OSU?...I thought this thread was about Auburn!
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 12, 2011 9:28pm
Agree or disagree with this statement:enigmaax;931730 wrote:So, what is it that everyone knows Auburn hid from the NCAA? Is this all because you assume that they must've paid Cam Newton because his dad tried to get money out of Mississippi State or is it that you believe random bloggers or that everyone must be cheating because your school got busted?
Auburn committed major violations, but did very well covering it up to the point there was no way the NCAA could penalize speculation.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 12, 2011 9:46pm
Man, this is unbelievable. Can't believe that they got nothing out of all of this.