Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Oct 16, 2011 9:19am
We're middle of the pack big 10 rushing with ZERO passing offense. I would argue we probably have one of the best rushing attacks... it's kind of hard to rush the ball when everyone knows that a team cannot pass.Hb31187;934715 wrote:You're middle of the pack big 10 in rushing, its not like its Beanie and Pryor are back there. But I guess we'll see
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 16, 2011 9:55am
Which is exactly Michigan's problem right now. The defense just stacks the box and dares DR to throw.Fly4Fun;935230 wrote:We're middle of the pack big 10 rushing with ZERO passing offense. I would argue we probably have one of the best rushing attacks... it's kind of hard to rush the ball when everyone knows that a team cannot pass.
Guess, what? It ain't working well. Call me crazy, but I really think getting Gardner in at QB and getting DR to another spot gives us a better chance to win. DG is a good QB (yes, he will make rookie mistakes), and it would really spread out the defense trying to defend the pass and DR.
Lots of talk about this amongst Michigan fans. Seems to be a 50/50 split in favor. Hoke even commented that DG can be a better passer at times. I really believe Hoke wants to start weening DR away from full-time QB. I won't be surprised if DG is at least the starter NEXT year, with DR in a Percy Harvin type role.
And DR will thank Michigan when he actually gets some looks from the NFL. He isn't going to get them as a QB.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Oct 16, 2011 11:02am
ouch, my feelings are hurt.WebFire;934916 wrote:You are a terrible poster.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Oct 16, 2011 11:08am
you call me a bad poster, yet i said this same thing way before you.WebFire;935249 wrote:
Guess, what? It ain't working well. Call me crazy, but I really think getting Gardner in at QB and getting DR to another spot gives us a better chance to win. DG is a good QB (yes, he will make rookie mistakes), and it would really spread out the defense trying to defend the pass and DR.
Lots of talk about this amongst Michigan fans. Seems to be a 50/50 split in favor. Hoke even commented that DG can be a better passer at times. I really believe Hoke wants to start weening DR away from full-time QB. I won't be surprised if DG is at least the starter NEXT year, with DR in a Percy Harvin type role.
And DR will thank Michigan when he actually gets some looks from the NFL. He isn't going to get them as a QB.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Oct 16, 2011 11:30am
Daniel "Boom" Herron proved why he was #1 on the depth chart. I know a lot of posters who continually cast him off as ineffective, slow and unable to hit the hole, you guys look stupid today 
as his presence was felt early and often. He was particularly good considering we had absolutely zero ability to pass and was the focus of the "gameplan" if you can call it that.
as his presence was felt early and often. He was particularly good considering we had absolutely zero ability to pass and was the focus of the "gameplan" if you can call it that.
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Oct 16, 2011 12:13pm
Just watched this on dvr since I went to the UC game yesterday. Disappointing, yes. Not the end of the world.
It's mind boggling how poor the play calling was inside MSU territory. If they aren't going to attempt long field goals they need to be running the ball more.
Borges was in over his head yesterday. Hopefully for the last time this year.
It's mind boggling how poor the play calling was inside MSU territory. If they aren't going to attempt long field goals they need to be running the ball more.
Borges was in over his head yesterday. Hopefully for the last time this year.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 16, 2011 1:02pm
You are overall.Pick6;935294 wrote:you call me a bad poster, yet i said this same thing way before you.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Oct 16, 2011 1:27pm
lol, okWebFire;935380 wrote:You are overall.
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bigkahuna
Posts: 4,454
Oct 16, 2011 7:57pm
I am going to disagree with this part. I don't think he was necessarily in over his head, but I do think he got too creative. I would have rather of seen I-Formation with Fitz getting the ball. Take the 4th down call for example, line up just like they did, but POUND IT IN THERE!!! I think if they're stopping Denard, then they should try the power run game with Fitz/or another running back.dave;935355 wrote:Just watched this on dvr since I went to the UC game yesterday. Disappointing, yes. Not the end of the world.
It's mind boggling how poor the play calling was inside MSU territory. If they aren't going to attempt long field goals they need to be running the ball more.
Borges was in over his head yesterday. Hopefully for the last time this year.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 16, 2011 8:39pm
The problem is, they put 8 in the box to stop Denard. The running game won't get far either. They've got to get a passing game or this will continue.bigkahuna;935908 wrote:I am going to disagree with this part. I don't think he was necessarily in over his head, but I do think he got too creative. I would have rather of seen I-Formation with Fitz getting the ball. Take the 4th down call for example, line up just like they did, but POUND IT IN THERE!!! I think if they're stopping Denard, then they should try the power run game with Fitz/or another running back.
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Oct 16, 2011 9:52pm
Or you can go 4 and 5 wide so they can't put 8-9 in the box. Do what worked last year.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 16, 2011 10:27pm
But they don't respect the pass, and rightfully so. So they still defend run 1st, pass 2nd.dave;936079 wrote:Or you can go 4 and 5 wide so they can't put 8-9 in the box. Do what worked last year.
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bigkahuna
Posts: 4,454
Oct 17, 2011 2:17am
I just wanted to see it tried; that's all. I think they were going to do it once, but there was a false start.WebFire;935962 wrote:The problem is, they put 8 in the box to stop Denard. The running game won't get far either. They've got to get a passing game or this will continue.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Oct 17, 2011 8:52am
Love how scUM fans are deserting Ratard Robinson as their QB of choice and clamoring for Gardner to get a start. Rats leaving a sinking ship. Luke will leave OSU with one win over scUM as HC of the Buckeyes. Bank It.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 17, 2011 10:02am
Not quite what you think, but whatever makes you feel good about your Bucks.Tiernan;936345 wrote:Love how scUM fans are deserting Ratard Robinson as their QB of choice and clamoring for Gardner to get a start. Rats leaving a sinking ship. Luke will leave OSU with one win over scUM as HC of the Buckeyes. Bank It.
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MontyBrunswick
Oct 17, 2011 11:12am
Michigan's coach is a dipshit for trying to run a pro-style offense with a spread QB. If he had half a brain he would either:
a) pitch his playbook and let Denard run all over the place
or
b) start a QB who can throw the ball more than 10 yards
a) pitch his playbook and let Denard run all over the place
or
b) start a QB who can throw the ball more than 10 yards
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 17, 2011 11:22am
I really think we'll start seeing more B.dlazz;936471 wrote:Michigan's coach is a dipshit for trying to run a pro-style offense with a spread QB. If he had half a brain he would either:
a) pitch his playbook and let Denard run all over the place
or
b) start a QB who can throw the ball more than 10 yards
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Oct 17, 2011 1:17pm
Felt reeeaally good on Saturday Webbie...actually started to see a silver lining to this darkest of seasons.WebFire;936413 wrote:Not quite what you think, but whatever makes you feel good about your Bucks.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 17, 2011 1:35pm
I agree 100%.Tiernan;936597 wrote:Felt reeeaally good on Saturday Webbie...actually started to see a silver lining to this darkest of seasons.
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ksig489
Posts: 943
Oct 17, 2011 7:32pm
Denard is still the best QB on the roster...even as a passer. Last year he was one of the more efficient passers in the NCAA. He is not a pro style passer. His passes are best when they come off run action or more specifically quick passes of the zone read look. UM has abandoned the zone read (the play that makes Denard great). Until they get beck to the zone read and the quick passes off of it, they will struggle. Quit spending practice time on gimmick crap and run what has been proven to work.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 17, 2011 9:31pm
Which plays other than the reverse were gimmick?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 17, 2011 9:32pm
I do agree that if they are going to stick with Denard, they need to play to his strengths.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 18, 2011 1:03pm
A summary of the game in video form from Andy Staples...
[video]www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OBlgSz8sSM[/video]
[video]www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OBlgSz8sSM[/video]
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ksig489
Posts: 943
Oct 18, 2011 3:20pm
Anything that puts your starting QB at WR or on the bench.WebFire;937213 wrote:Which plays other than the reverse were gimmick?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Oct 18, 2011 8:35pm
I disagree.