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the_system
Posts: 465
Oct 6, 2011 6:06pm
Can someone who thinks TCU is a good addition explain why they think that?
Student population of around 8-9,000.
Tiny stadium of around 40,000 and they couldn't even sell out all of their home games during their undefeated season.
They just did a renovation on the stadium that REDUCED the size of it.
Small alumni base, no national following, hell...they don't even have a big following in their home state.
If the BXII loses missouri and start filling the conference with shit like TCU, Louisville, Tulane, BYU, they should lose their automatic BCS bid. Oklahoma or Texas will literally coast the entire season, every season into the title game.
Student population of around 8-9,000.
Tiny stadium of around 40,000 and they couldn't even sell out all of their home games during their undefeated season.
They just did a renovation on the stadium that REDUCED the size of it.
Small alumni base, no national following, hell...they don't even have a big following in their home state.
If the BXII loses missouri and start filling the conference with shit like TCU, Louisville, Tulane, BYU, they should lose their automatic BCS bid. Oklahoma or Texas will literally coast the entire season, every season into the title game.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Oct 6, 2011 6:10pm
They're actually increasing their capacity to 50,000.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Oct 6, 2011 6:15pm
It would still be a better conference than the Big East and probably ACC are right now.the_system;924083 wrote:If the BXII loses missouri and start filling the conference with shit like TCU, Louisville, Tulane, BYU, they should lose their automatic BCS bid. Oklahoma or Texas will literally coast the entire season, every season into the title game.
From a strictly football perspective (since this is a football board) - TCU has finished the season ranked in the top 25 in 7/10 years this decade, and in the top 10 four times since 2005. While 42,000 fans isn't huge, it was higher last season than several BCS schools. Also, it's pretty obvious that either the Big East or Big 12 is going to die as a football conference. Since TCU was originally going to join the BE, luring them away to the Big 12 would be significant for the conference's survival.
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dtdtim
Posts: 358
Oct 6, 2011 6:17pm
Although I agree with you, it is Missouri. They have been known to do some bone-headed things in the past.Mulva;924077 wrote:^ Pretty sure the issue would be the SEC not accepting Missouri, not Missouri turning down the SEC.
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the_system
Posts: 465
Oct 6, 2011 6:17pm
I see. I found this elsewhere. When I originally saw it the plans for future years must not have been finalized yet.ts1227;924090 wrote:They're actually increasing their capacity to 50,000.
Phase 1 of Amon Carter Stadium renovation involves demolition and reconstruction of the west side (the larger, home side with an upper deck) and north endzone. This will be only partially complete for the 2011 season (no upper level on west side) and will make the seating capacity for that season about 30k (get your season ticket order in early).
Phase 1 will be completed prior to the 2012 season, with capacity at about 40k (including about 24 luxury suites).
Phase 2 involves renovation of the east side with the plans flexible to add an upper level to bring the capacity up to 50k if indicated. This should be complete by start of the 2013 season.
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Oct 6, 2011 6:21pm
i don't really think it's a great addition but they did have to add somebody, so might as well start by securing an already held foot-hold in dallas (oklahoma was probably in favor of tcu because its gets them two games in a season in the dallas fort worth area every other year). i still think the best potential big 12 candidate is usf, howeverthe_system;924083 wrote:Can someone who thinks TCU is a good addition explain why they think that?
Student population of around 8-9,000.
Tiny stadium of around 40,000 and they couldn't even sell out all of their home games during their undefeated season.
They just did a renovation on the stadium that REDUCED the size of it.
Small alumni base, no national following, hell...they don't even have a big following in their home state.
If the BXII loses missouri and start filling the conference with **** like TCU, Louisville, Tulane, BYU, they should lose their automatic BCS bid. Oklahoma or Texas will literally coast the entire season, every season into the title game.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Oct 6, 2011 6:31pm
I think BYU is definitely the best potential candidate. Solid programs in football and basketball, a big school (would be the 2nd biggest enrollment in the conference), a significant fan base (60k attendance and sizable TV market in SLC/Provo), not to mention they are the Mormon school of choice and a pretty good academic school as well.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 6, 2011 6:37pm
Missouri being turned down by the SEC after "putting them on hold" for the B1G makes me happy inside, as a KU fan.
Fuckin Missouri
Fuckin Missouri
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 6, 2011 6:44pm
cats gone wild;923956 wrote:The B12 should go after Boise St now.
I think you see this happen if Missouri heads to the SEC
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 6, 2011 6:51pm
Would you mind explaining why Boise would be a good addition, so that we can all laugh at your answer?jordo212000;924127 wrote:I think you see this happen if Missouri heads to the SEC
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 6, 2011 7:15pm
lulz
K-State AD: "To have TCU as 10th member would add an institution w/proven academic, athletic success in major market that includes K-State’s largest number of out-of-state alumni'
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 6, 2011 7:57pm
SportsAndLady;924137 wrote:Would you mind explaining why Boise would be a good addition, so that we can all laugh at your answer?
You serious Clark? Are you that oblivious to how college football works?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 6, 2011 8:14pm
Still haven't explained LOLjordo212000;924188 wrote:You serious Clark? Are you that oblivious to how college football works?
The longer you wait to make the case, the more i'll laugh.
I just want an explanation
Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
Oct 6, 2011 9:52pm
Despite the success this past decade, BSU would be a terrible selection. They would be thousands of miles away from the rest of the conference, is a terrible academic institution (it was a JUCO up to about 40 years ago), small media market, football is the only sport that would be competitive in the conference and there is no guarantee that the football program would continue to be successful once their HC leaves.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 6, 2011 10:39pm
+1Little Danny;924346 wrote:Despite the success this past decade, BSU would be a terrible selection. They would be thousands of miles away from the rest of the conference, is a terrible academic institution (it was a JUCO up to about 40 years ago), small media market, football is the only sport that would be competitive in the conference and there is no guarantee that the football program would continue to be successful once their HC leaves.
i'll wait to hear Jordo's rebuttal
(i've been waiting for months..he won't explain why Boise would be a good addition after saying they would)
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Oct 7, 2011 7:05am
jordo212000;924127 wrote:I think you see this happen if Missouri heads to the SEC
I dont see anywhere in his post why he would think that this would be "a good addition". He said " I think you will see this happen"SportsAndLady;924137 wrote:Would you mind explaining why Boise would be a good addition, so that we can all laugh at your answer?
You always twist peoples posts.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 7, 2011 7:35am
lol fail for jordo..he simply won't explain why Boise would be a good addition. It's unbelievable lol
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Oct 10, 2011 12:34pm
ESPN saying the TCU trustees are meeting today and are expected to accept the invite. Announcement coming at 7:00 PM
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Oct 10, 2011 12:44pm
TCU's buyout of their Big East contract is a mere $5 million.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Oct 10, 2011 12:53pm
Con_Alma;928888 wrote:TCU's buyout of their Big East contract is a mere $5 million.
And all indications are that they won't be forced to stick around for 27 months like Pitt and Syracuse.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 10, 2011 1:11pm
There was some talk that the conference was trying to get that buyout up to $20 million or more. Too bad for them half of the conference is planning on leaving so it never really gained much traction.
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El Jefe Grande
Posts: 425
Oct 10, 2011 2:16pm
I predicted TCU to the Big XII earlier, and was ridiculed.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Oct 10, 2011 4:07pm
Are you bragging or whining?El Jefe Grande;928980 wrote:I predicted TCU to the Big XII earlier, and was ridiculed.
GoPens
Posts: 2,339
Oct 10, 2011 5:11pm
Big East looking to add Boise St, Air Force, and Navy.
http://articles.boston.com/2011-10-09/sports/30260803_1_boise-state-big-east-football-members
http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_19073868
http://articles.boston.com/2011-10-09/sports/30260803_1_boise-state-big-east-football-members
http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_19073868
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 10, 2011 5:26pm
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGoPens;929159 wrote:Big East looking to add Boise St, Air Force, and Navy.
http://articles.boston.com/2011-10-09/sports/30260803_1_boise-state-big-east-football-members
http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_19073868