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cbus4life
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Sep 28, 2011 2:16am
I'm pretty sure they've had some borderline cases. Dockery comes to mind. If i remember correctly, he really struggled to qualify.Y-Town Steelhound;913326 wrote:I see your point but that's not an absolute truth. Just look at Coach K and Duke for the last 25 or so years.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Sep 28, 2011 10:41am
Thats interesting. Article said he withdrew and returned home. Maybe they decided to stay, and pay tuition for the first semester in hopes that he does qualify soon. But if this is true, its good news.Big Gain;913857 wrote:He was in classes yesterday.
thedynasty1998
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Sep 28, 2011 10:05pm
Big Gain;913857 wrote:He was in classes yesterday.
I think he still keeps his scholarship, so maybe. If OSU accepted him and he doesn't qualify doesn't that make him a Prop 48?centralbucksfan;914163 wrote:Thats interesting. Article said he withdrew and returned home. Maybe they decided to stay, and pay tuition for the first semester in hopes that he does qualify soon. But if this is true, its good news.
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Big Gain
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Sep 29, 2011 1:24am
Last year I thought Weatherspoon was gone when his grades were horrid. He kept his scholarship and is back on the roster. AND there is NO comparison in talent. OSU will do everything they can within NCAA and University academic standards to keep Ross. Whether he becomes eligible this December or next year. It sounds like he wants to play for Ohio State regardless of what it takes. It is ridiculous that high schools don't help/make kids do what it takes academically to qualify.
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centralbucksfan
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Sep 29, 2011 10:04am
And you know they don't? From my experiences, they do everything they can. YOu also have to realize, this kid jumped from school to school, as well as from one state to another. That complicates things quite a bit. Sorry, but the responsibility falls on the young man and the parents to get things done. Its really NOT that difficult to get at least a "C" in high school. We aren't talking brain science here!Big Gain;915466 wrote: It is ridiculous that high schools don't help/make kids do what it takes academically to qualify.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Sep 29, 2011 1:10pm
It's all about priorities and a lot of kids (and their parents) don't put academics high enough on that list. Then they end up in situations like this and wonder wtf happened.
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Big Gain
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Sep 29, 2011 7:34pm
Yep, "NOT that difficult to get at least a "C" in high school." I have a friend who's a teacher and she is frequently told by an administrator what grade she MUST give a "student" athlete to keep him eligible.centralbucksfan;915659 wrote:And you know they don't? From my experiences, they do everything they can. YOu also have to realize, this kid jumped from school to school, as well as from one state to another. That complicates things quite a bit. Sorry, but the responsibility falls on the young man and the parents to get things done. Its really NOT that difficult to get at least a "C" in high school. We aren't talking brain science here!
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centralbucksfan
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Oct 3, 2011 1:28pm
Which would make it even easier to get qualifying grades!! And shame on that school for doing this practice. I would say this is not common practice in most schools. Most quality schools keep tabs on their players. Which IMO, falls on the head coach at that high school.Big Gain;916361 wrote:Yep, "NOT that difficult to get at least a "C" in high school." I have a friend who's a teacher and she is frequently told by an administrator what grade she MUST give a "student" athlete to keep him eligible.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Oct 6, 2011 8:43pm
I don't think such a thing even exists, anymore. I think you simply lose the year.thedynasty1998;914990 wrote:I think he still keeps his scholarship, so maybe. If OSU accepted him and he doesn't qualify doesn't that make him a Prop 48?
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georgemc80
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Oct 12, 2011 10:01am
Big Gain;916361 wrote:Yep, "NOT that difficult to get at least a "C" in high school." I have a friend who's a teacher and she is frequently told by an administrator what grade she MUST give a "student" athlete to keep him eligible.
Its a sliding scale to qualify. If he had a "C"...his test scores would have to be higher. It's those "C" athletes that don't score high enough on the tests to qualify.
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Nov 3, 2011 9:49am
@qross2011 December 9th can't come fast enough I will be back #BuckeyeNation
http://twitter.com/#!/qross2011/status/131981298221854720
http://twitter.com/#!/qross2011/status/131981298221854720
Quint
Posts: 737
Nov 3, 2011 10:24am
Outstanding.osu45804;956017 wrote:@qross2011 December 9th can't come fast enough I will be back #BuckeyeNation
http://twitter.com/#!/qross2011/status/131981298221854720
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Nov 3, 2011 10:52am
Hopefully it happens, and he can get some games in before the B1G season.
osu45804
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Nov 16, 2011 2:20pm
Writerbuckeye
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Nov 16, 2011 3:14pm
According to those who saw him practice, he has a very nice 3 point shot and could help with OSU's anemic perimeter game. Here's hoping he's able to get things squared away and return in December.
sleeper
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Nov 17, 2011 8:57am
OSU will be fine without him.
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mallymal614
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Nov 17, 2011 11:27am
Ohio State could be fine without him but a extra weapon would be nice.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Nov 17, 2011 12:48pm
So not the point. How about this: they can be EVEN BETTER if he's able to join the team.sleeper;976158 wrote:OSU will be fine without him.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 17, 2011 12:52pm
Key word: CanWriterbuckeye;976370 wrote:So not the point. How about this: they can be EVEN BETTER if he's able to join the team.
Just like we can win the 'ship with the academically eligible players we have now.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Nov 17, 2011 12:54pm
Personally, I am not counting on him. Now preseason or season practice. Its going to be a huge learning curve for him. If he can contribute by mid Jan, he would be lucky IMO. I know the kid is talented, but its going to take him some time to learn. It would be icing on the cake if he could contribute. If not, as much as I hate to admit I agree with Sleeper...OSU will be fine without him.Writerbuckeye;976370 wrote:So not the point. How about this: they can be EVEN BETTER if he's able to join the team.
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mallymal614
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Nov 17, 2011 6:15pm
It's better sooner than later. Because if he comes back late like Janurary, then he could possibly mess up team chemistry. But if he comes back before the Big Ten season and has a chance to get acclimated, especially against cupcake schools, then I'm all for it.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Nov 17, 2011 10:31pm
I've never seen him play, but from what I hear he can only improve this team. You can never have too many athletic swing men, especially considering the talent of UNC and UK.mallymal614;976824 wrote:It's better sooner than later. Because if he comes back late like Janurary, then he could possibly mess up team chemistry. But if he comes back before the Big Ten season and has a chance to get acclimated, especially against cupcake schools, then I'm all for it.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Nov 18, 2011 9:00am
Unlike Football, the learning curve is not that great in Basketball. Chemistry is a little more tricky, as it does take time to get acclimated to your teammates and the way each of them plays.centralbucksfan;976378 wrote:Personally, I am not counting on him. Now preseason or season practice. Its going to be a huge learning curve for him. If he can contribute by mid Jan, he would be lucky IMO. I know the kid is talented, but its going to take him some time to learn. It would be icing on the cake if he could contribute. If not, as much as I hate to admit I agree with Sleeper...OSU will be fine without him.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Nov 18, 2011 11:07am
centralbucksfan;976378 wrote:Personally, I am not counting on him. Now preseason or season practice. Its going to be a huge learning curve for him. If he can contribute by mid Jan, he would be lucky IMO. I know the kid is talented, but its going to take him some time to learn. It would be icing on the cake if he could contribute. If not, as much as I hate to admit I agree with Sleeper...OSU will be fine without him.
Both of your statements ignore the fact that Ross practiced with the entire team all summer, and was part of activities up until he found out he had to re-take those classes. Plus, he would return in December, not January, if he gets eligible (Dec. 9, if memory serves).se-alum;977762 wrote:Unlike Football, the learning curve is not that great in Basketball. Chemistry is a little more tricky, as it does take time to get acclimated to your teammates and the way each of them plays.
There will be very little learning curve if he's able to return in December, and the upside of that is far, far greater than any downside, given his prior association and friendships with current team members.
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centralbucksfan
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Nov 18, 2011 11:09am
I disagree. There is more to a learning curve, having never practiced, not knowing the system, not playing against big time D1 talent, etc, etc. There is more to the game than you think. Now, maybe this kid is THAT talented. But even if he is, again, he hasn't stepped on the court except for open gyms in the summer. Which mean squat. I have seen many all star open gym players who rarely see the court. If he had been able to at least practice, I would agree. But no preseason conditioning, no season practice, no game experience at thie level. He has A LOT to learn. Again, if he can do it, great..be icing on the cake. I am not expecting much if anything this season. On top of that, some are counting that he will actually be eligible. That is a question mark as well.se-alum;977762 wrote:Unlike Football, the learning curve is not that great in Basketball. Chemistry is a little more tricky, as it does take time to get acclimated to your teammates and the way each of them plays.