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karen lotz

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Sep 20, 2011 12:46 PM
wildcats20;904352 wrote:Family members?

JINX
Sep 20, 2011 12:46pm
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Pick6

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Sep 20, 2011 12:47 PM
The SEC turned down WVU so none of the teams would have to go north and play in the cold, snowy weather late in the season...duh!

Also seen if Notre Dame had a choice..they would join the ACC..I wonder why?
Sep 20, 2011 12:47pm
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karen lotz

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Sep 20, 2011 12:51 PM
Pick6;904358 wrote:Also seen if Notre Dame had a choice..they would join the ACC..I wonder why?

It would still allow them to be more of a national brand. Playing games in Boston, Carolinas, Virginia, Maryland, Georgia, Florida, etc still keeps them in all of those recruiting hotbeds. They will still be able to recruit in the Midwest at the same time. Keep the annual game with USC and you have the west coast as well.
Sep 20, 2011 12:51pm
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Sep 20, 2011 1:06 PM
I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to us being in the ACC for all sports. Renew yearly rivalries with Miami and FSU, and we'd still have spots like what was said with USC and UM etc.
Sep 20, 2011 1:06pm
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enigmaax

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Sep 20, 2011 1:15 PM
justincredible;904348 wrote:Yeah, WVU's market may not be very big but the fans travel extremely well. I mean, what the **** else is there to do in West Virginia?
Family members?
sisters
Let's not forget sheep.
Sep 20, 2011 1:15pm
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enigmaax

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Sep 20, 2011 1:22 PM
karen lotz;904365 wrote:It would still allow them to be more of a national brand. Playing games in Boston, Carolinas, Virginia, Maryland, Georgia, Florida, etc still keeps them in all of those recruiting hotbeds. They will still be able to recruit in the Midwest at the same time. Keep the annual game with USC and you have the west coast as well.
This makes a lot of sense. Playing a primary schedule of all Bee One Gee teams doesn't really do anything for Notre Dame football. Geography has a lot to do with all these moves, but obviously not in the way it previously had. It is much more fruitful as a conference, or even as a school any more, to have an "in" to multiple recruiting hotspots (along with TV exposure).

That is also a big reason why I was and would be surprised if WVU ended up in the SEC. That would be the prime example of expansion being counterproductive. It isn't about how many fans travel to games, the SEC isn't hurting for fans. WVU doesn't open up any kind of recruiting ground or worthwhile TV market. It'd just be another team splitting the money with no return to the other schools on the investment. It is the same reason I never bought Clemson/Florida State - the football programs probably fit, but there is no added value by their locations.
Sep 20, 2011 1:22pm
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Sep 20, 2011 1:25 PM
enigmaax;904411 wrote:Let's not forget sheep.
Not a lot of sheep in West Virginia, at least not that I've seen in my time there.
Sep 20, 2011 1:25pm
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Sep 20, 2011 1:25 PM
enigmaax;904424 wrote:This makes a lot of sense. Playing a primary schedule of all Bee One Gee teams doesn't really do anything for Notre Dame football. Geography has a lot to do with all these moves, but obviously not in the way it previously had. It is much more fruitful as a conference, or even as a school any more, to have an "in" to multiple recruiting hotspots (along with TV exposure).

That is also a big reason why I was and would be surprised if WVU ended up in the SEC. That would be the prime example of expansion being counterproductive. It isn't about how many fans travel to games, the SEC isn't hurting for fans. WVU doesn't open up any kind of recruiting ground or worthwhile TV market. It'd just be another team splitting the money with no return to the other schools on the investment. It is the same reason I never bought Clemson/Florida State - the football programs probably fit, but there is no added value by their locations.
This makes sense.
Sep 20, 2011 1:25pm
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enigmaax

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Sep 20, 2011 1:32 PM
justincredible;904429 wrote:Not a lot of sheep in West Virginia, at least not that I've seen in my time there.
I once bought a shirt in WV that said, "West Virginia...Where men are men and sheep are nervous." I take them at their word.

Speaking of that, I'm going to try and find that shirt if I end up tailgating at the game Saturday. And I'll probably add ohiochatter.com to the back - you're welcome in advance for the free advertising.
Sep 20, 2011 1:32pm
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Sep 20, 2011 1:34 PM
Justin you should try and hold up an Ohio Chatter sign at gameday

"Come make fun of Ohio State at Ohiochatter.com"

That'll get at least a million hits lol
Sep 20, 2011 1:34pm
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Sep 20, 2011 1:36 PM
enigmaax;904444 wrote:I once bought a shirt in WV that said, "West Virginia...Where men are men and sheep are nervous." I take them at their word.

Speaking of that, I'm going to try and find that shirt if I end up tailgating at the game Saturday. And I'll probably add ohiochatter.com to the back - you're welcome in advance for the free advertising.
Tailgating at the WVU game?
Sep 20, 2011 1:36pm
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Sep 20, 2011 1:36 PM
SportsAndLady;904449 wrote:Justin you should try and hold up an Ohio Chatter sign at gameday

"Come make fun of Ohio State at Ohiochatter.com"

That'll get at least a million hits lol
Not a bad idea.
Sep 20, 2011 1:36pm
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enigmaax

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Sep 20, 2011 1:38 PM
justincredible;904452 wrote:Tailgating at the WVU game?
Yeah.
Sep 20, 2011 1:38pm
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Sep 20, 2011 1:39 PM
enigmaax;904457 wrote:Yeah.
I was unaware that you were going to be there.
Sep 20, 2011 1:39pm
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enigmaax

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Sep 20, 2011 1:46 PM
justincredible;904460 wrote:I was unaware that you were going to be there.
Not a sure thing yet; wife (WVU fan) wants to go. I don't, really.
Sep 20, 2011 1:46pm
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Nick Mangold

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Sep 20, 2011 1:47 PM
enigmaax;904468 wrote:Not a sure thing yet; wife (WVU fan) wants to go. I don't, really.
How far is the drive for you?
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enigmaax

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Sep 20, 2011 2:03 PM
justincredible;904469 wrote:How far is the drive for you?
About 2 hours.
Sep 20, 2011 2:03pm
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Nick Mangold

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Sep 20, 2011 2:07 PM
enigmaax;904493 wrote:About 2 hours.
Lucky. I've got a 5 hour drive to look forward to.
Sep 20, 2011 2:07pm
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enigmaax

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Sep 20, 2011 2:15 PM
justincredible;904496 wrote:Lucky. I've got a 5 hour drive to look forward to.
You heading over that morning or going the night before?
Sep 20, 2011 2:15pm
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Nick Mangold

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Sep 20, 2011 2:19 PM
enigmaax;904505 wrote:You heading over that morning or going the night before?
I'll be leaving work around 1 or 2 on Friday to get in to Motown around 7pm.
Sep 20, 2011 2:19pm
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cats gone wild

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Sep 20, 2011 2:21 PM
Is it a date, or what fellas? :D J/K
Sep 20, 2011 2:21pm
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enigmaax

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Sep 20, 2011 2:26 PM
justincredible;904512 wrote:I'll be leaving work around 1 or 2 on Friday to get in to Motown around 7pm.
Thats cool. We're going to the Florida-South Carolina game in November - about a 7 hour drive, but have to wait on one person in the party to be off work on Friday night. Hoping that one ends up being a night game.
Sep 20, 2011 2:26pm
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enigmaax

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Sep 20, 2011 2:28 PM
cats gone wild;904516 wrote:Is it a date, or what fellas? :D J/K
Oh shit, I thought we were on our own private thread. Please tell me this isn't where I was answering the "how much would it cost" question.
Sep 20, 2011 2:28pm
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Sep 20, 2011 2:38 PM
lol
Sep 20, 2011 2:38pm
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Sep 20, 2011 3:07 PM
goosebumps;903520 wrote:Rumor floating around from a credible source that WVU is being denied by the SEC, reasons unclear right now.

Cue everyone jumping on me for not listing my source... and go.
Maybe because WVU is shitty and has absolutely ZERO to contribute to the SEC.
Sep 20, 2011 3:07pm