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Sep 16, 2011 2:17pm

jmog;898520 wrote:Personal opinion but I think Jones/Rampage is bigger than at least 1 of those 2.

Ehh. I'll peg that fight @ #3 behind those.

Hb31187

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Sep 16, 2011 2:29pm

Id much rather see the Bones vs Rampage fight than either of those 2 as well

Automatik

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Sep 16, 2011 2:31pm

I never get stoked for a Lesnar fight. He doesn't do it for me. I hope Overeem waxes him.

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sportchampps

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Sep 16, 2011 2:31pm

I'd go jds vs Cain then bones vs rampage lesnar will destroy overeem

robj55

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Sep 16, 2011 2:49pm

Hb31187;898672 wrote:Id much rather see the Bones vs Rampage fight than either of those 2 as well

Not a fan of the heavyweights huh?

Hb31187

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Sep 16, 2011 5:41pm

robj55;898696 wrote:Not a fan of the heavyweights huh?

More times than not, a big heavyweight bout is them fighting hard for like 2 rounds then gassing. The lighter weight classes not always, but usually provide more entertaining fights bc the athletes are better conditioned. At least thats what it seems like

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Sep 16, 2011 6:00pm

Automatik;898674 wrote:I never get stoked for a Lesnar fight.

Some love him (like me) while others hate him. Two things about him though, he goes balls to the wall every fight and he brings in PPV money.

PPV buyrates for him (co-main and Main event)

UFC 81 600,000 buys
UFC 87 625,000 buys
UFC 91 1,010,000 buys
UFC 100 1,600,000 buys
UFC 116 1,160,000 buys
UFC 121 1,050,000 buys

Average=1,007,500 buys

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jmog

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Sep 16, 2011 6:13pm

The_Crosby_Show;898824 wrote:Some love him (like me) while others hate him. Two things about him though, he goes balls to the wall every fight and he brings in PPV money.

PPV buyrates for him (co-main and Main event)

UFC 81 600,000 buys
UFC 87 625,000 buys
UFC 91 1,010,000 buys
UFC 100 1,600,000 buys
UFC 116 1,160,000 buys
UFC 121 1,050,000 buys

Average=1,007,500 buys

There is no doubt he sells tickets and PPVs.

robj55

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Sep 16, 2011 6:22pm

Hb31187;898809 wrote:More times than not, a big heavyweight bout is them fighting hard for like 2 rounds then gassing. The lighter weight classes not always, but usually provide more entertaining fights bc the athletes are better conditioned. At least thats what it seems like

Good point, I love watching HW's because they have so much power the fight can end in an instant. Also some of them move like MW's which is crazy(Cain,Brock). Freak athletes, and there is also a certain buzz around a big heavyweight fight.

Automatik

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Sep 16, 2011 6:29pm

The_Crosby_Show;898824 wrote:Some love him (like me) while others hate him. Two things about him though, he goes balls to the wall every fight and he brings in PPV money.

PPV buyrates for him (co-main and Main event)

UFC 81 600,000 buys
UFC 87 625,000 buys
UFC 91 1,010,000 buys
UFC 100 1,600,000 buys
UFC 116 1,160,000 buys
UFC 121 1,050,000 buys

Average=1,007,500 buys

Technically he's mud. He's just huge, strong, and insane. I understand his appeal, but as a long time fan of MMA, he just doesn't do it for me.

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Sep 17, 2011 12:23am

Automatik;898835 wrote:Technically he's mud. He's just huge, strong, and insane. I understand his appeal, but as a long time fan of MMA, he just doesn't do it for me.

I understand where you're coming from. Just like Brock, GSP has a lot of fans and I personally don't care for him.

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I Wear Pants

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Sep 17, 2011 12:28am

MMA for me. I wrestled in high school and still do when I can and I dabble in grappling (do tournaments occasionally, still trying to find a gym that isn't 3242 miles away to go more regularly) so it makes sense that I enjoy MMA. It combines a bunch of sports that I really like to watch and do (wrestling, jiu-jitsu, boxing, etc, etc). Very exciting and I like how the big fights always seem to happen. Outside of injuries there really aren't many fights that people want or need to see that don't end up happening.

Automatik

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Sep 17, 2011 12:51am

The_Crosby_Show;899183 wrote:I understand where you're coming from. Just like Brock, GSP has a lot of fans and I personally don't care for him.

GSP is 10 times the fighter Lesnar is or ever will be.

Hb31187

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Sep 17, 2011 12:53am

Yeah I dont care for GSP in the least bit. But he is 100X more skilled than Lesnar. Lesnar is a freak athlete, and ridiculously strong. But has almost no technique at all. Just bull rushes and drops hammer fists lol.

hoops23

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Sep 17, 2011 12:59am

bigdaddy2003;898484 wrote:No doubt! I hope Rampage knocks him out.

GTFO!

I like both, but I hope Jon Jones keeps the belt.

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Sep 17, 2011 1:00am

Hb31187;899222 wrote:Yeah I dont care for GSP in the least bit. But he is 100X more skilled than Lesnar. Lesnar is a freak athlete, and ridiculously strong. But has almost no technique at all. Just bull rushes and drops hammer fists lol.

When he fought Couture and Mir II he actually took his time and didn't bull rush. Against everyone else he's done it, and it works sometimes and it doesn't sometimes (especially if you're a wrestler of Brock's caliber ie Velasquez).

@ Automatik. Of course GSP will be, he's been in the sport since he was 21 years old lol.

hoops23

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Sep 17, 2011 1:02am

bigdaddy2003;898510 wrote:Bones does have skills but the fact that he had a "spy" in Rampage's camp really irks me.

If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'

bigdaddy2003

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Sep 18, 2011 12:37am

Chalk me up as one who doesn't care for GSP. He may be a better fight than Brock but I would much rather watch Brock. I like Bones but I like Rampage more. The interview tonight during fight night with Rampage and Bones was hilarious.

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I Wear Pants

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Sep 18, 2011 1:26am

Rampage is so fun.

robj55

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Sep 18, 2011 1:50am

I Wear Pants;901225 wrote:Rampage is so fun.

you see that interview tonight? Jones looked scared, stammering his words, Rampage looks ready to kill...

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I Wear Pants

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Sep 18, 2011 1:51am

Jones looked like he was trying to build his image as a nice guy whereas Rampage just likes being himself.

robj55

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Sep 18, 2011 1:54am

I Wear Pants;901239 wrote:Jones looked like he was trying to build his image as a nice guy whereas Rampage just likes being himself.

Looked like Jones was caught in a lie the way he was stuttering to me.

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Sep 18, 2011 1:55am

robj55;901244 wrote:Looked like Jones was caught in a lie the way he was stuttering to me.

Exactly what I thought as well.

bigdaddy2003

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Sep 18, 2011 11:36am

The_Crosby_Show;901246 wrote:Exactly what I thought as well.

Same here. I'm double pumped for this fight now after the interview.

"You getting destroyed homie."

robj55

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Sep 18, 2011 1:29pm

Curious to hear why some boxing fans on here hate MMA.