Iliketurtles;897342 wrote:S&L you should try to sort those by profit. Just a heads up in Profit:

Team Revenue Expenses Profit
Texas $605,108,282 $500,783,830 $104,324,452
Notre Dame $417,065,007 $313,623,490 $103,441,517
Michigan $475,418,749 $376,093,582 $99,325,167
Alabama $472,696,121 $374,990,279 $97,705,842
Georgia $408,680,608 $343,635,239 $65,045,369
Penn State $441,004,474 $378,106,020 $62,898,454
Kansas $356,685,528 $297,351,141 $59,334,387
Ohio State $575,074,569 $516,982,310 $58,092,259
Oklahoma State $326,238,178 $273,959,017 $52,279,161
Michigan State $373,348,695 $321,539,458 $51,809,237
Iowa $396,206,849 $344,731,540 $51,475,309
Florida $521,026,679 $475,216,193 $45,810,486
Auburn $418,904,026 $376,841,279 $42,062,747
Kansas State $239,718,709 $202,264,641 $37,454,068
Virginia Tech $281,014,390 $252,140,462 $28,873,928
Louisiana State $435,601,796 $407,465,214 $28,136,582
West Virginia $268,839,229 $240,910,022 $27,929,207
Illinois $272,272,142 $244,345,811 $27,926,331
Nebraska $359,089,969 $332,714,925 $26,375,044
Wisconsin $438,714,947 $413,421,089 $25,293,858
Indiana $268,489,651 $247,066,702 $21,422,949
Central Florida $168,895,820 $149,374,346 $19,521,474
Washington $297,429,491 $279,371,129 $18,058,362
Texas A&M $359,862,009 $342,419,076 $17,442,933
Texas Tech $244,451,812 $228,964,729 $15,487,083
Virginia $371,891,285 $357,475,801 $14,415,484
Kentucky $340,638,906 $327,047,572 $13,591,334
Louisville $276,626,938 $263,116,665 $13,510,273
Clemson $278,773,748 $265,776,203 $12,997,545
Arkansas $317,472,840 $304,516,585 $12,956,255
Miami (FL) $255,735,910 $242,972,602 $12,763,308
Purdue $289,997,727 $277,327,048 $12,670,679
Tennessee $447,299,149 $435,339,648 $11,959,501
Oregon $287,925,483 $276,292,935 $11,632,548
Washington State $178,899,390 $167,359,496 $11,539,894
Oklahoma $391,200,150 $380,479,633 $10,720,517
Colorado $241,239,561 $230,601,450 $10,638,111
Arizona $240,762,291 $230,260,937 $10,501,354
BYU $176,271,821 $165,932,047 $10,339,774
Bowling Green $92,589,069 $83,727,362 $8,861,707
South Carolina $336,434,820 $328,674,789 $7,760,031
South Florida $165,778,650 $158,959,092 $6,819,558
Florida State $278,057,903 $271,387,906 $6,669,997
Syracuse $237,755,312 $231,115,007 $6,640,305
Minnesota $329,448,928 $322,970,257 $6,478,671
Vanderbilt $220,415,601 $214,755,898 $5,659,703
East Carolina $137,431,677 $131,846,315 $5,585,362
Boston College $300,446,948 $295,093,893 $5,353,055
Fresno State $131,963,307 $126,742,047 $5,221,260
North Carolina State $223,022,563 $218,020,914 $5,001,649
Missouri $256,386,080 $251,401,330 $4,984,750
Hawaii $144,883,108 $140,475,050 $4,408,058
Stanford $359,261,704 $356,038,374 $3,223,330
Wake Forest $198,222,588 $195,112,422 $3,110,166
Northern Illinois $89,406,214 $86,390,693 $3,015,521
Colorado State $104,878,858 $101,913,551 $2,965,307
Oregon State $232,407,604 $229,464,206 $2,943,398
Florida International $97,437,507 $94,837,277 $2,600,230
Florida Atlantic $72,676,329 $70,083,968 $2,592,361
Arizona State $265,675,468 $263,293,925 $2,381,543
San Jose State $90,973,290 $88,601,270 $2,372,020
North Texas $80,917,213 $78,780,725 $2,136,488
Southern Miss $88,112,557 $86,055,428 $2,057,129
Mississippi State $156,784,564 $154,797,211 $1,987,353
San Diego State $160,482,385 $158,512,757 $1,969,628
UAB $109,558,625 $107,644,360 $1,914,265
Louisiana-Monroe $40,303,634 $38,431,807 $1,871,827
UNLV $176,004,389 $174,248,158 $1,756,231
Georgia Tech $236,123,569 $234,657,630 $1,465,939
Kent State $89,627,091 $88,258,535 $1,368,556
Ohio $101,622,884 $100,292,169 $1,330,715
Duke $305,442,709 $304,180,138 $1,262,571
Utah State $73,544,824 $72,363,321 $1,181,503
Eastern Michigan $97,352,052 $96,207,540 $1,144,512
Utah $141,632,138 $140,555,716 $1,076,422
North Carolina $311,318,829 $310,322,260 $996,569
Western Michigan $98,867,968 $97,908,010 $959,958
Akron $92,964,535 $92,076,375 $888,160
Boise State $109,026,773 $108,213,191 $813,582
Idaho $66,638,186 $65,901,165 $737,021
Nevada $103,880,156 $103,258,379 $621,777
New Mexico State $106,615,411 $106,021,740 $593,671
Louisiana-Lafayette $53,756,169 $53,211,381 $544,788
Central Michigan $106,675,697 $106,172,625 $503,072
UTEP $110,917,044 $110,478,057 $438,987
Miami (OH) $116,694,393 $116,302,849 $391,544
Rutgers $245,105,184 $244,719,877 $385,307
Marshall $103,342,431 $103,028,965 $313,466
Connecticut $274,438,065 $274,159,199 $278,866
Iowa State $200,744,619 $200,483,939 $260,680
Louisiana Tech $63,420,129 $63,285,520 $134,609
Buffalo $103,468,402 $103,393,256 $75,146
California $319,553,483 $319,502,736 $50,747
UCLA $307,518,115 $307,501,197 $16,918
Ball State $85,663,374 $85,655,065 $8,309
Rice $139,262,236 $139,262,225 $11
USC $374,128,429 $374,128,429 $0
Baylor $223,543,720 $223,543,720 $0
TCU $218,609,628 $218,609,628 $0
Northwestern $218,374,098 $218,374,098 $0
Pittsburgh $205,426,419 $205,426,419 $0
Mississippi $182,994,902 $182,994,902 $0
Cincinnati $169,056,019 $169,056,019 $0
SMU $164,819,233 $164,819,233 $0
Memphis $160,343,086 $160,343,086 $0
Houston $146,184,825 $146,184,825 $0
New Mexico $142,260,446 $142,260,446 $0
Temple $134,796,733 $134,796,733 $0
Tulsa $121,666,475 $121,666,475 $0
Wyoming $117,552,012 $117,552,012 $0
Tulane $98,896,105 $98,896,105 $0
Western Kentucky $97,493,804 $97,493,804 $0
Toledo $91,120,410 $91,120,410 $0
Middle Tennessee State $86,174,212 $86,174,212 $0
Troy $67,845,069 $67,845,069 $0
Arkansas State $52,805,477 $52,805,477 $0

Random, but very interesting...Cal?!!?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sportsmoney/2011/03/04/pac-10-financials-show-little-athletics-profit/

I was a little surprised to see who generated the most football revenue in the Pac-10. I would have picked USC or Oregon as the largest breadwinners, but instead it’s University of Washington and Arizona State:

	Football Revenue
Univ of Washington	$33,919,639.00
Arizona State	$29,587,236.00
Univ of Oregon	$29,505,906.00
Univ of Southern California	$29,080,117.00
Univ of Arizona	$24,398,253.00
Univ of California, Berkeley	$24,421,437.00
Univ of California, Los Angeles	$22,298,856.00
Stanford Univ	$21,309,949.00
Oregon State	$19,056,237.00
Washington State	$12,754,541.00

USC, who I expected to see atop the revenue list, was the biggest spender, however. The surprise on the expense list was Cal, who came in third:

	Football Expenses
Univ of Southern California	$20,820,468.00
Univ of Washington	$19,207,560.00
Univ of California, Berkeley	$18,519,523.00
Univ of Oregon	$18,071,012.00
Arizona State	$17,977,987.00
Stanford Univ	$17,236,945.00
Univ of California, Los Angeles	$15,261,681.00
Univ of Arizona	$13,685,931.00
Oregon State	$11,981,026.00
Washington State	$9,181,495.00

Oklahoma announces their agenda for a meeting with their BOR for Monday. Agenda item #28 is in regards to conference alignment.

This will all be going down very quickly.

http://www.ou.edu/regents/official_agenda/SeptemberFinalAgenda.pdf

Oklahoma leaves, that means Oklahoma State leaves (oklahoma won't join a conference without bringing along Oklahoma State), that means Tejas leaves/goes independent (they aint stayin in the Big 12 without Oklahoma), that means the Big 12 crumbles. Sad..

SportsAndLady;897844 wrote: that means the Big 12 crumbles. Sad..

Not really. The other guys and Texas were a bunch of dopes. The other guys should have never signed off on that agreement to let Texas have more and Texas should have known this was eventually going to happen. The other schools have pride too, there is no way Oklahoma was going to sit there and watch Texas having its wildest dreams come true.

The other schools should have not been sitting on their hands over the past year. You have to be proactive. Everybody and their brother knew the conference was a house of cards.

jordo212000;897874 wrote:Not really.

I followed the conference in bball very closely, so it's sad to me...it's a fucking opinion...now I know that whatever I say you just disagree with. I said it's sad to me that the conference I follow in bball is crumbling, and you say "Not really" lolololol

It's funny how trolldo denies being a troll, yet clearly all he is trying to do in this thread is get a rise out of S&L.

like_that;897980 wrote:yet clearly all he is trying to do in this thread is get a rise out of S&L.

And then when facts are thrown out to debunk his arguments, he ignores them/goes into another subject.

I'm still waiting for his argument for BSU being a good addition to a conference, he dodged that question like a bullet LOL

SportsAndLady;897992 wrote:And then when facts are thrown out to debunk his arguments, he ignores them/goes into another subject.

I'm still waiting for his argument for BSU being a good addition to a conference, he dodged that question like a bullet LOL

Not surprising. He is like the non athletic guy in college/hs who tries so hard to fit in with the crowd that likes sports. I am sure jordo read one article, and is basing his whole argument off that article, so when you throw out different arguments he has no idea what the hell to say.

You should have seen his attempt to spin an argument about the Packers DB's. He tried to say they weren't good, and when it was thrown in his face that 3 of their dbs were in the pro bowl, he tried to spew other shit that made him look like even more of an idiot.

I said Boise had a better chance of getting into the Sec, Big 10, and PAC 12 than Kansas. I also said the odds of Boise getting in were very small (I was mostly saying Kansas had no chance). You missed my point

It's obvious that this argument is going nowhere. I moved on. You didn't. I still would like to bet on whether or not Kansas gets an invite from the SEC, Big 10, or PAC 12.

jordo212000;898045 wrote:I said Boise had a better chance of getting into the Sec, Big 10, and PAC 12 than Kansas. I also said the odds of Boise getting in were very small (I was mostly saying Kansas had no chance). You missed my point

It's obvious that this argument is going nowhere. I moved on. You didn't. I still would like to bet on whether or not Kansas gets an invite from the SEC, Big 10, or PAC 12.

CLASSIC Jordo post lol spot on!

First paragraph-WE KNOW you said those things about Boise..but you still haven't said WHY. "Because they make BCS bowl games" isn't a fucking argument unless of course it's a 3rd grader who is saying it.

Second paragraph-you didn't "move on" you were proven wrong, and now you're trying to spin it...Notice that I was the one who originally said "agree to disagree" and you couldn't even do that LOL Yeah, you sure did "move on" didn't you??? Oh and of course I'm not going to bet that KU gets in the SE, Big 10, or PAC 12...why the fuck would I do that? I never said any of that haha, where did you even come up with that?! I have to add putting words into others' mouths to the list of what you do: spin, change subject, and/or put words into others' mouths.

p.s., keep posting...I'm loving all these REPS I'm receiving

Not surprised no response from jordouche

SportsAndLady;898830 wrote:Not surprised no response from jordouche

He has no spin, lol at thinking basketball has no power in the decision making. The only spin he will have is he will respond with a cop out "I actually have a life" response. Don't let that fool you:

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like_that;899476 wrote:He has no spin, lol at thinking basketball has no power in the decision making. The only spin he will have is he will respond with a cop out "I actually have a life" response. Don't let that fool you:

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LOL in the ACC thread he said basketball has no power in the SEC, Big 12, and B1G but completely matters in the ACC and BE. I will agree that baseketball means so much more to the ACC and BE but to say it doesn't matter at all to the SEC, Big 12, and B1G is laughable.

LMAO:

jordo212000;899414 wrote:In my opinion basketball prowess only matters to the ACC and Big East. The Pac12, Big 10, and Sec are not interested in basketball. But you are correct, Syracuse would be intriguing for the ACC for basketball reasons, but that would be it.

Even though on page 4 he wrote this:

jordo212000;895038 wrote:Realignment is all about football.

I will agree with him that by and large, only the Big East and ACC are going to really give basketball any serious weight in their decision making process

ts1227;899509 wrote:I will agree with him that by and large, only the Big East and ACC are going to really give basketball any serious weight in their decision making process

And I agree, but the point is, this ENTIRE time he kept saying "no one cares about basketball," "Its ALL about football," and "no conference is going to take a school because of basketball."

Now, when the ACC takes a huge basketball program (Cuse), it seems to be about basketball, and now he goes "Well only the ACC and Big East care about basketball!"

It's back pedaling 101.

SportsAndLady;899518 wrote:And I agree, but the point is, this ENTIRE time he kept saying "no one cares about basketball," "Its ALL about football," and "no conference is going to take a school because of basketball."

Now, when the ACC takes a huge basketball program (Cuse), it seems to be about basketball, and now he goes "Well only the ACC and Big East care about basketball!"

It's back pedaling 101.

I stand by comments in each thread. Football is driving realignment. Just look at the initial wave. Nebraska, Colorado, Utah, TCU, and A&M all have average to poor basketball programs. Going forward the power conferences have not seemed interested one bit in poor football programs with good basketball.

The only conferences who are going after non-football focused schools is the ACC

Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

jordo212000;899605 wrote:I stand by comments in each thread. Football is driving realignment

YOU'RE WRONG! Because a realignment move just happened where it was a basketball decision. Yes football is driving realignment, no one is arguing that. The argument is that basketball does play a small part in it...and until you say "you're right, basketball is a small part of it" you're going to continue to look like an idiot back tracker.

jordo212000;899605 wrote:Going forward the power conferences have not seemed interested one bit in poor football programs with good basketball.

No shit. The point is when the conferences have to hit 16 teams, there will be a few moves that are made because of basketball. When you are choosing from bare options, the teams aren't going to be great football additions, but you can get a power basketball program and that certainly helps.

jordo212000;899605 wrote:The only conferences who are going after non-football focused schools is the ACC

First it was NO conference...then it was the Big East and ACC...now it's the ACC.

Which one is it Jordouche?

SportsAndLady;899624 wrote:YOU'RE WRONG! Because a realignment move just happened where it was a basketball decision. Yes football is driving realignment, no one is arguing that. The argument is that basketball does play a small part in it...and until you say "you're right, basketball is a small part of it" you're going to continue to look like an idiot back tracker.



No shit. The point is when the conferences have to hit 16 teams, there will be a few moves that are made because of basketball. When you are choosing from bare options, the teams aren't going to be great football additions, but you can get a power basketball program and that certainly helps.



First it was NO conference...then it was the Big East and ACC...now it's the ACC.

Which one is it Jordouche?

Come get me when the Big 10 or Pac 12 has 16 schools. A lot of conferences don't seem like they prefer that route.

Who did the Big East add that was basketball first? TCU? Haha

jordo212000;899638 wrote:Come get me when the Big 10 has 16 schools. A lot of conferences don't seem like they prefer that route.

It was a hypothetical lol holy shit how stupid are you

IF the landscape changes to 16 team conferences...IF...

jordo212000;899640 wrote:Who did the Big East add that was basketball first? TCU? Haha

Where did I say.....nevermind, you are reaching so hard to cover up your backpedaling, I'm not even going to attempt this argument anymore.