It becoming harder and harder to figure out where the 5 game suspensions came from for the OSU players.

OSU plays in a conference where rules matter.

Sharrif comes from poverty in Philly. He lived with an aunt and a grandmother growing up in a basement apt. He's a good kid, never been in trouble like so many others from his block. None of this had anything at all to do with UF.

It was the Student Athlete Mentoring Foundation. S.A.M. is a Delaware-based organization that describes itself as a group that provides “supplementary support to high school student-athletes in both their academic and athletic endeavors.”
“Yes, we helped Sharrif, so I guess that’s what it’s about,” Gordon said today. “It’s with regard to my foundation’s support of Sharrif when he was in high school. That’s what I’ve been led to believe.”

In an interview with SPCN.TV, presumably in 2009, Floyd credited Gordon and Lahn for assisting him. “I was basically in a bit of a jam,” Floyd said. “My cousin knew Steve Gordon. We talked… It helped me see more colleges.”
Floyd, a sophomore defensive tackle, was supposed to be in the starting line-up for Florida in its opener against Florida Atlantic. Minutes before kickoff, however, the Gators circulated a statement declaring him ineligible.

Speedofsand;887859 wrote:Sharrif comes from poverty in Philly. He lived with an aunt and a grandmother growing up in a basement apt. He's a good kid, never been in trouble like so many others from his block. None of this had anything at all to do with UF.

It was the Student Athlete Mentoring Foundation. S.A.M. is a Delaware-based organization that describes itself as a group that provides “supplementary support to high school student-athletes in both their academic and athletic endeavors.”
“Yes, we helped Sharrif, so I guess that’s what it’s about,” Gordon said today. “It’s with regard to my foundation’s support of Sharrif when he was in high school. That’s what I’ve been led to believe.”

In an interview with SPCN.TV, presumably in 2009, Floyd credited Gordon and Lahn for assisting him. “I was basically in a bit of a jam,” Floyd said. “My cousin knew Steve Gordon. We talked… It helped me see more colleges.”
Floyd, a sophomore defensive tackle, was supposed to be in the starting line-up for Florida in its opener against Florida Atlantic. Minutes before kickoff, however, the Gators circulated a statement declaring him ineligible.

I'm not sure what your point is.

His point is that it is his team so it is different see!

Who said he was given 2700 cash?
The SAM foundation helped him with living while in high school, supposedly paid for a couple of unofficial visits. My point is that seems much different from college players taking money and cars and free gifts that they don't need. Maybe Sharrif thought it would be ok to get help from this SAM foundation.

Speedofsand;887878 wrote:Who said he was given 2700 cash?
The SAM foundation helped him with living while in high school, supposedly paid for a couple of unofficial visits. My point is that seems much different from college players taking money and cars and free gifts that they don't need. Maybe Sharrif thought it would be ok to get help from this SAM foundation.

$2700 in benefits.

"It didn't affect him coming to UF"


We know, it was God via Urban Meyer.

If this occured while he was in high school and UF had NOTHING to do with it.........this is about what he should get

Ty Webb;887936 wrote:If this occured while he was in high school and UF had NOTHING to do with it.........this is about what he should get

Ohio State had nothing to do w/ the 5 guys trading memorabilia for tats either, yet they got 5 games for about $1000 in benefits. It doesn't add up.

se-alum, the Buckeyes were at OSU, being housed, fed, etc. and they chose to break rules they knew about. Sharrif was in high school, wearing the same clothes day after day. I still don't see why you want to keep comparing it to the guys at OSU. Florida broke NO rules here. Maybe you should be screaming for Floyd's high school coach to be fired, because he helped the kid. At least he didn't lie about it later.

ccrunner609;887866 wrote:So by posting this you seem to be condoning the fact that people can give this kid money cause as you put it "comes from poverty in Philly"

Wha wha wha...............lots of kids come from poor homes, doesnt give you the right to break the rules.

No, you are just interpreting it that way.

The NCAA continues to show how two-faced it is.

se-alum;887868 wrote:I'm not sure what your point is.

Since you didn't post a link, I figured I'd give the background and story of the NCAA's ridiculous investigation. We were guessing he took money from John Blake, since he visited UNC. He also took visits to tOSU and SoCal.

Speedofsand;887988 wrote:se-alum, the Buckeyes were at OSU, being housed, fed, etc. and they chose to break rules they knew about. Sharrif was in high school, wearing the same clothes day after day. I still don't see why you want to keep comparing it to the guys at OSU. Florida broke NO rules here. Maybe you should be screaming for Floyd's high school coach to be fired, because he helped the kid. At least he didn't lie about it later.

Your "excuse" may be applicable here, but you've lost credibility by trying to rationalize and defend nearly every Gator arrested the past five years.

Speedofsand;887988 wrote:se-alum, the Buckeyes were at OSU, being housed, fed, etc. and they chose to break rules they knew about. Sharrif was in high school, wearing the same clothes day after day. I still don't see why you want to keep comparing it to the guys at OSU. Florida broke NO rules here. Maybe you should be screaming for Floyd's high school coach to be fired, because he helped the kid. At least he didn't lie about it later.

Although it is sad the way he grew up, he still has to follow the rules. You act like we are attacking Florida, nobody even mentioned Florida. It's also BS that the NCAA basically said that if it were a kid that was well off, and took extra benefits, he would be suspended longer. Floyd seems like a good kid, but even good kids make mistakes.

dat dude;888003 wrote:Your "excuse" may be applicable here, but you've lost credibility by trying to rationalize and defend nearly every Gator arrested the past five years.

what 'excuse'? No excuse needed here. Florida did nothing wrong. Floyd was not arrested.
Miami has a bunch of guys take dirty booster benefits and get one game out. This kid gets 2 ? NCAA can suck it.

se-alum;888012 wrote:Although it is sad the way he grew up, he still has to follow the rules. You act like we are attacking Florida, nobody even mentioned Florida. It's also BS that the NCAA basically said that if it were a kid that was well off, and took extra benefits, he would be suspended longer. Floyd seems like a good kid, but even good kids make mistakes.

Since when has the NCAA become a means of redistributing wealth?

This ruling is hypocritical as hell and unfair to every kid who has (or will) serve a longer suspension.

[FONT=&quot]STATEMENT FROM UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA HEAD COACH WILL MUSCHAMP ON NCAA RULING ON SHARRIF FLOYD[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]“I’m angered, disgusted and extremely disappointed that Sharrif will have to miss two games. [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]In my opinion Sharrif is getting lumped into what is bad about college athletics. As we indicated in the statement Saturday night his issue was not related to sports agents, University of Florida boosters or his recruitment to Florida or anywhere else. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Sharrif is what is good about college athletics – his life is about survival, struggle, disappointment and adversity. I have recruited kids that did not know where they would sleep that night or what they would eat. Growing up, Sharrif was one these kids. Sharrif’s life is also about triumph, honesty, integrity, determination, perseverance and character. The NCAA stated that he received preferential treatment; there is nothing preferential about his life. [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]He grew up with only his great grandmother and still sends her Pell Grant money so she can pay her bills. How many kids do you know that would do that? I know one – Sharrif Floyd. [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]I want to make it clear that this issue is not about sports agents, Florida boosters or his recruitment to Florida or anywhere else. The issue is about his survival and the only reason the NCAA, the SEC and the University of Florida were aware of these issues is because Sharrif brought them to our attention last February. He came forward because, as I said before, he is honest and because of his integrity. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The toughest day that I have had as a head football coach at Florida was the day that I had to tell Sharrif that he could not play in our game vs. FAU last week. I took away part of his family. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]He had tears in his eyes and said “What have I done wrong?” I told him he did nothing wrong. It wasn’t any easier to tell him today that he would be missing Saturday’s game. [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]I have two sons at home- if they end up like Sharrif I will consider myself a successful father. “[/FONT]

Speedofsand;888153 wrote:[FONT=&amp]STATEMENT FROM UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA HEAD COACH WILL MUSCHAMP ON NCAA RULING ON SHARRIF FLOYD[/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]“I’m angered, disgusted and extremely disappointed that Sharrif will have to miss two games. [/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]In my opinion Sharrif is getting lumped into what is bad about college athletics. As we indicated in the statement Saturday night his issue was not related to sports agents, University of Florida boosters or his recruitment to Florida or anywhere else. [/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]Sharrif is what is good about college athletics – his life is about survival, struggle, disappointment and adversity. I have recruited kids that did not know where they would sleep that night or what they would eat. Growing up, Sharrif was one these kids. Sharrif’s life is also about triumph, honesty, integrity, determination, perseverance and character. The NCAA stated that he received preferential treatment; there is nothing preferential about his life. [/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]He grew up with only his great grandmother and still sends her Pell Grant money so she can pay her bills. How many kids do you know that would do that? I know one – Sharrif Floyd. [/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]I want to make it clear that this issue is not about sports agents, Florida boosters or his recruitment to Florida or anywhere else. The issue is about his survival and the only reason the NCAA, the SEC and the University of Florida were aware of these issues is because Sharrif brought them to our attention last February. He came forward because, as I said before, he is honest and because of his integrity. [/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]The toughest day that I have had as a head football coach at Florida was the day that I had to tell Sharrif that he could not play in our game vs. FAU last week. I took away part of his family. [/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]He had tears in his eyes and said “What have I done wrong?” I told him he did nothing wrong. It wasn’t any easier to tell him today that he would be missing Saturday’s game. [/FONT]

[FONT=&amp]I have two sons at home- if they end up like Sharrif I will consider myself a successful father. “[/FONT]

Nobody is disputing he's a good kid. Nobody is putting down Florida. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of the NCAA. I legitimately feel bad for the kid, but it could've(should've) been worse.

se-alum;887953 wrote:Ohio State had nothing to do w/ the 5 guys trading memorabilia for tats either, yet they got 5 games for about $1000 in benefits. It doesn't add up.

They were students and players when the violation occured....Floyd wasn't. See the difference

Ty Webb;888174 wrote:They were students and players when the violation occured....Floyd wasn't. See the difference

Oh, so if a player took money from an organization to attend a college, it's less serious than if they take money while they're in school?? I see.

Don't make it sound like someone gave him money to come to UF....because they didn't. UF is clean here

They gave him money to fund 2 un-offical visits,neither of which were to UF(I may be wrong there though)

se-alum;888162 wrote:Nobody is disputing he's a good kid. Nobody is putting down Florida. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of the NCAA. I legitimately feel bad for the kid, but it could've(should've) been worse.

It would be hypocritical if all situations were the same. You just can't compare every situation and expect the punishment to be the same. OSU's players got the same ban as Georgia's player for selling memorabilia. Clearly the NCAA doesn't want students to have an open season to make money off school-related products. Still, those OSU guys basically got a favor by being able to trade an additional game for the Sugar Bowl, which they should've missed.

The NCAA doesn't like agents being involved. They don't like recruiting advantages being gained.

This doesn't fit any of those situations. I don't know of any off the top of my head, but if you can find a similar case and compare it to what the NCAA did here, you might have a point about hypocrisy. The OSU situation isn't a valid point-of-reference, though.

Ty Webb;888194 wrote:Don't make it sound like someone gave him money to come to UF....because they didn't. UF is clean here

They gave him money to fund 2 un-offical visits,neither of which were to UF(I may be wrong there though)

Nobody has brought up UF, except you and Speed. NOBODY has said anything about UF. Good lord man.