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Aug 23, 2011 10:05 PM
jordo212000;871880 wrote:There was a report out there that Tressel did not meet expectations on his performance review when Geiger was still around. He was graded as "needs improvement"

Eventually Gene Smith got rid of the paper review format

So you have proof he covered something up? Would you like to offer this proof to us? Until then, you're speaking out of your ass. Sorry, but true.
Aug 23, 2011 10:05pm
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Aug 23, 2011 10:07 PM
lhslep134;871887 wrote:So you have proof he covered something up? Would you like to offer this proof to us? Until then, you're speaking out of your ass. Sorry, but true.


The last written review that Geiger gave Tressel said he was not satisfactory at reporting violations. jordo is correct that Smith never gave a written review of Tressel, even though every other coach at OSU got one.
Aug 23, 2011 10:07pm
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Aug 23, 2011 10:11 PM
karen lotz;871889 wrote:The last written review that Geiger gave Tressel said he was not satisfactory at reporting violations. jordo is correct that Smith never gave a written review of Tressel, even though every other coach at OSU got one.

Do you have a copy of this review?
Aug 23, 2011 10:11pm
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Aug 23, 2011 10:12 PM
lhslep134;871895 wrote:Do you have a copy of this review?


No, I'm completely making it up.
Aug 23, 2011 10:12pm
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Aug 23, 2011 10:13 PM
lhslep134;871895 wrote:Do you have a copy of this review?

They were all posted in another thread when his records were released. Jordo and karen are 100% correct
Aug 23, 2011 10:13pm
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Aug 23, 2011 10:18 PM
karen lotz;871898 wrote:No, I'm completely making it up.

I wasn't accusing you of that, I merely asked if you had it. Stop getting your panties in a bunch.
Aug 23, 2011 10:18pm
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Aug 23, 2011 10:18 PM
LJ;871899 wrote:They were all posted in another thread when his records were released. Jordo and karen are 100% correct

Gotcha.

That still doesn't mean Tressel covered any violations up, which is the point I'm making.
Aug 23, 2011 10:18pm
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Aug 23, 2011 10:26 PM
lhslep134;871913 wrote:Gotcha.

That still doesn't mean Tressel covered any violations up, which is the point I'm making.


I'm not saying he necessarily covered anything else up, just that there is a certain pattern of behavior with Tressel, and that goes back to his Youngstown State days.
Aug 23, 2011 10:26pm
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Aug 23, 2011 10:26 PM
lhslep134;871913 wrote:Gotcha.

That still doesn't mean Tressel covered any violations up, which is the point I'm making.

Actually, if his performance review stated that he "needed improvement" on reporting violations, that in itself would suggest that he covered up violations. Probably minor violations, but those violations, his problems with the Tattoo stuff, and then his past at YSU suggest that he wasn't exactly squeaky clean
Aug 23, 2011 10:26pm
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Aug 23, 2011 11:53 PM
The review was "unsatisfactory" because Tressel didn't report things timely, not because he didn't report them at all.
Aug 23, 2011 11:53pm
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Aug 24, 2011 1:04 AM
karen lotz;871934 wrote:goes back to his Youngstown State days.

Please enlighten me on what Tressel was found guilty of at Youngstown State.

I can assure you I know more of that situation than you'll ever know, so please, enlighten.
Aug 24, 2011 1:04am
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Aug 24, 2011 1:10 AM
lhslep134;872110 wrote:Please enlighten me on what Tressel was found guilty of at Youngstown State.

I can assure you I know more of that situation than you'll ever know, so please, enlighten.

lol.
Aug 24, 2011 1:10am
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Aug 24, 2011 1:23 AM
karen lotz;872114 wrote:lol.

I'll ask again. What was Tressel found guilty of at Youngstown State? Simple question.
Aug 24, 2011 1:23am
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Aug 24, 2011 1:37 AM
lhslep134;872118 wrote:I'll ask again. What was Tressel found guilty of at Youngstown State? Simple question.

He was at the least guilty of poor judgement, given he asked a guy who turned out to be one of the biggest corporate criminals in U.S. history to find a job for his star quarterback.
Aug 24, 2011 1:37am
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Aug 24, 2011 1:40 AM
2kool4skool;872121 wrote:He was at the least guilty of poor judgement, given he asked a guy who turned out to be one of the biggest corporate criminals in U.S. history to find a job for his star quarterback.

You mean the same guy who employed 10+ of his other players legally?
Aug 24, 2011 1:40am
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Aug 24, 2011 1:40 AM
lhslep134;872118 wrote:I'll ask again. What was Tressel found guilty of at Youngstown State? Simple question.


He covered it up long enough for the statute of limitations to expire. Surely due to your extensive knowledge of the situation you know that, right?
Aug 24, 2011 1:40am
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Aug 24, 2011 1:44 AM
karen lotz;872123 wrote:He covered it up long enough for the statute of limitations to expire. Surely due to your extensive knowledge of the situation you know that, right?

So somehow the AD and President were found guilty, Tressel wasn't, and he covered something up? Surely the statute of limitations didn't expire on his AD or President, but it did on him? Nice try.
Aug 24, 2011 1:44am
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Aug 24, 2011 5:22 AM
Scooter1369;872050 wrote:The review was "unsatisfactory" because Tressel didn't report things timely, not because he didn't report them at all.

Yeah, if they'd just have given him, oh say, another four years, he'd eventually have reported the Tat 5.
Aug 24, 2011 5:22am
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Aug 24, 2011 8:42 AM
I'm a huge fan of Tressel still. I think he definitely screwed up, but I wish we could have gone with the punishment (screw the media) and waited to see what the NCAA came up with. But I have to admit I wonder since he was covering for Pryor (and the tat 5) then who else did he cover for?
Aug 24, 2011 8:42am
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Aug 24, 2011 3:08 PM
I thought this thread was about Pryor to the Raaaaaaiiiiidddeeeerrrrrs?
Aug 24, 2011 3:08pm
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Aug 24, 2011 3:19 PM
FatHobbit;872188 wrote:But I have to admit I wonder since he was covering for Pryor (and the tat 5) then who else did he cover for?

my money's on Gene Smith, and only time will tell
Aug 24, 2011 3:19pm
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Aug 24, 2011 3:25 PM
vball10set;872516 wrote:my money's on Gene Smith, and only time will tell

I was thinking that he might have covered for players, but Gene Smith is a definite possibility.
Aug 24, 2011 3:25pm
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Aug 24, 2011 3:33 PM
FatHobbit;872526 wrote:I was thinking that he might have covered for players, but Gene Smith is a definite possibility.

...and I should add that I hope I'm wrong, 'cause if I'm not, all hell will break loose for THE OSU
Aug 24, 2011 3:33pm
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Aug 24, 2011 8:33 PM
lhslep134;872122 wrote:You mean the same guy who employed 10+ of his other players legally?

Yes. The same guy who was a known sleazeball and ended up being one of the biggest perpetrators of fraud in the history of the United States. Tressel thought it was a great idea for his players to be around this guy, going so far as to personally ask him if he could find a job for his star quarterback. He is, at the absolute best, an incredibly poor judge of character.
Aug 24, 2011 8:33pm
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Aug 24, 2011 8:40 PM
2kool4skool;872819 wrote:Yes. The same guy who was a known sleazeball and ended up being one of the biggest perpetrators of fraud in the history of the United States. Tressel thought it was a great idea for his players to be around this guy, going so far as to personally ask him if he could find a job for his star quarterback. He is, at the absolute best, an incredibly poor judge of character.


If you think every single bit of business Monus did was sleazy or illegal, you're sadly mistaken. Unfortunately, you only know what the media portrays. He did a lot of good business in Youngstown.
Aug 24, 2011 8:40pm