karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Aug 17, 2011 9:59am
This notion that I was paying players is false. It never happened.
It has never been about money for me. It's always been about community service. That's what being Uncle Luke is really about.
Uncle Luke must have forgotten about The U 30 for 30 that he was interviewed for.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 17, 2011 10:03am
lhslep134;865125 wrote:So what was your point? That's somehow we're supposed to take street rats with no proof's statements just as factually as a white collar criminal with more proof than could possibly ever be needed?
I sent you a PM, because you are saying the opposite of what my point is.
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Aug 17, 2011 10:20am
Speaking of Trolls. Goldhammer says only OSU honks would think that this Miami thing is worse than the OSU scandal. LOL.
EDSBS blog is great. They have a good poll too.
EDSBS blog is great. They have a good poll too.
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Aug 17, 2011 10:20am
LSU freek brings the noise...
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 17, 2011 10:23am
That's just retarded.OneBuckeye;865152 wrote:Speaking of Trolls. Goldhammer says only OSU honks would think that this Miami thing is worse than the OSU scandal. LOL.
stroups
Posts: 3,223
Aug 17, 2011 10:30am
Lol ar the part where kellen winslow crashing a jet ski..... that is so like him
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Aug 17, 2011 10:30am
WebFire;864693 wrote:And with Oregon, Alabama and Auburn still looking, there doesn't seem to be an end in sight.
What I find funny about this is the fact that they had Nick Saban on ESPN talking about the integrity of the game, and how to fix it. All that good stuff, it was on the "Blueprint for Change" piece during Sportscenter.
I loved Nevin Shapiro's response when asked "Do you have a smoking gun?"...or something like that. And he says, "I've got a tsunami". LoL
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Aug 17, 2011 10:37am
Purdue could be out of a QB from all of this as Robert Marve is named as a player he took to dinner and strip clubs and also gave money to.
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Aug 17, 2011 10:40am
OneBuckeye;865170 wrote:Purdue could be out of a QB from all of this as Robert Marve is named as a player he took to dinner and strip clubs and also gave money to.
Poor Purdue...not that Marve is really worth a damn.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 17, 2011 10:44am
WebFire;865128 wrote:I sent you a PM, because you are saying the opposite of what my point is.
You still don't get it. OSU fans dismissed the claims because of what kind of criminals they were, not because they were criminals. Maybe you should look at what some of the educated posters had to say on the issue (that these criminals' words should be dismissed because there's no proof).
While I understand the point you're making (the same point as me), the way you went about doing it suggested that OSU fans unintelligently dismissed the claims because of the word criminal, not because of what kind of criminal/lack of proof.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 17, 2011 10:46am
lhslep134;865178 wrote:You still don't get it. OSU fans dismissed the claims because of what kind of criminals they were, not because they were criminals. Maybe you should look at what some of the educated posters had to say on the issue (that these criminals' words should be dismissed because there's no proof).
While I understand the point you're making (the same point as me), the way you went about doing it suggested that OSU fans unintelligently dismissed the claims because of the word criminal, not because of what kind of criminal/lack of proof.
Ok, we can agree to disagree. Which is odd because our end points are the same.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 17, 2011 10:51am
WebFire;865180 wrote:Ok, we can agree to disagree. Which is odd because our end points are the same.
Fair enough. We're actually both right. There WERE OSU posters who dismissed them because they were criminals, but most said it was because of the type of criminal/lack of proof.
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Aug 17, 2011 10:56am
lhslep134;865185 wrote:Fair enough. We're actually both right. There WERE OSU posters who dismissed them because they were criminals, but most said it was because of the type of criminal/lack of proof.
My whole thing is, the proof wasn't there. I don't care who's pointing the finger, if it's the President of the United States even, there has to be proof in order to punish. There wasn't any proof. The NCAA isn't a court of law, meaning your credibility is pretty much shot if you're a convicted felon. Everyone is a credible source when it comes to the NCAA, until they fail to show proof.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 17, 2011 10:56am
OhioStatePride2003;865192 wrote:My whole thing is, the proof wasn't there. I don't care who's pointing the finger, if it's the President of the United States even, there has to be proof in order to punish. There wasn't any proof. The NCAA isn't a court of law, meaning your credibility is pretty much shot if you're a convicted felon. Everyone is a credible source when it comes to the NCAA, until they fail to show proof.
100% agree
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Aug 17, 2011 10:57am
OneBuckeye;865154 wrote:LSU freek brings the noise...
Haha! That is awesome. I hope he does some more stuff with this. LSUfreek is the GOAT!
OneBuckeye
Posts: 5,888
Aug 17, 2011 11:08am
More you say?
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Aug 17, 2011 11:34am
Colin Cowherd pointed out the obvious a few minutes ago - The PAC-12, Big East, ACC, B1G, Mountain West, Big 12 have all had one team (or more) in trouble as of late (w/in the past couple years)...but not the SEC.
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Aug 17, 2011 11:35am
lhslep134;865106 wrote:So all of a sudden because you want to "move on", it never happened? Sorry I didn't get the memo, I was sleeping. LOL you're pathetic.
All you fucking do is call others delusional, pathetic, idiot, etc... Get over yourself. You are no better than the other Buckeye trolls here.
Speedofsand
Posts: 5,529
Aug 17, 2011 11:45am
Randy Shannon? Where is his name in this whole story? You know Yahoo asked. No accusations or even a 'he never knew' from Shapiro.
Interesting.
Interesting.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 17, 2011 11:54am
Speedofsand;865240 wrote:Randy Shannon? Where is his name in this whole story? You know Yahoo asked. No accusations or even a 'he never knew' from Shapiro.
Interesting.
Shannon knew, but he hated Shapiro. But honestly, what could he do short of ratting out his own team? It's no wonder he didn't do well there.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Aug 17, 2011 12:22pm
How many of these players are current players? I dont have the time to look over the list.
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Aug 17, 2011 12:23pm
OhioStatePride2003;865222 wrote:Colin Cowherd pointed out the obvious a few minutes ago - The PAC-12, Big East, ACC, B1G, Mountain West, Big 12 have all had one team (or more) in trouble as of late (w/in the past couple years)...but not the SEC.
so. auburn with cam newton, we're just overlooking that? Alabama and the T-town suit store, nothing to see here. LSU and their self policed infractions?
the SEC handled the one for sure violation better, but there are some really big fish that everyone is overlooking.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Aug 17, 2011 12:28pm
sportswizuhrd;865287 wrote:How many of these players are current players? I dont have the time to look over the list.
I think I saw 12?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 17, 2011 12:36pm
The more I read about this, this more I shake my head. This is huge. It's gonna get ugly.
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Aug 17, 2011 12:37pm
j_crazy;865289 wrote:so. auburn with cam newton, we're just overlooking that? Alabama and the T-town suit store, nothing to see here. LSU and their self policed infractions?
the SEC handled the one for sure violation better, but there are some really big fish that everyone is overlooking.
Well don't quote me, damn. Cowherd said it, not I. Excuse me...geesh. Maybe LSU slipped his mind, hell I dunno. Call him and ask him.