majorspark;850568 wrote:The feds will take care of your cell phone too.

http://www.fortliberty.org/the-government-handing-out-free-cell-phones-and-youre-paying-for-it.html

Call it "Freedom of Speech" taken to the next level.

BGFalcons82;849898 wrote:
Y'all realize that an overwhelming majority of them voted against this debt bill...right?

I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers but I believe the Tea Party Caucus as a whole voted 38-28 (counting the 4 Senators) for the final version of the debt bill.

Some of the Tea Party caucus members have certainly shown more gusto and ability to have some sort of principles than anyone in the old guard of both parties. I may think Michele Bachmann is a crazy loon; at least she is a consistently crazy loon who will not teeter and pander for votes (at least the 'right' votes) 100% of the time. I can respect that even though she frightens me.

P.S. What is with all of the 'y'alls'? I find it hard to believe it is easier to type 'y'all' then 'you'. Also, you're in Pickerington. We don't talk or type like that here .

^^^^

How Geithner hasn't fallen on his sword is beyond me, he could get the reputation as the worst cabinet Secretary in history.

The public sentiment has changed so dramatically in the last two years that I'm convinced that someone could run in 2012 (and win) on a platform of basically tearing down the existing government structure and rebuilding it entirely. It would be the most painful four years in the country's history, but if there's light at the end of the tunnel instead of simply prolonging this misery, I think a lot of people would go for it.

Heck, I might have to run for office myself...my platform would be "You've never heard of me and I might really screw things up, but it's better than the guy in office who you already know has screwed things up big-time and will continue to do so".

tk421;849631 wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Where was this article from, the liberal playbook? You could tax the top 5% of all taxpayers, which would include everyone making 159K and up, 100% and still not have enough money to cover spending.

I've been disgusted with D.C. for a long time and it's not going to change. Politicians are the most hated people on the planet, and there's a good reason for that.

What about the other 95% of TAXPAYERS? You always like to use this tired argument. What if they raised tax rates on the other percentage of taxpayers you have left out of your scenario?

ccrunner609;855842 wrote:After today, Obama is done. He will be a 1 term prez. Holder, Geitner etc..... are all out of there. It will be a glorious day when that happens.

THis is now the worst prez. in the history of this country.

And it ain't even close.

Manhattan Buckeye;855863 wrote:^^^^

How Geithner hasn't fallen on his sword is beyond me, he could get the reputation as the worst cabinet Secretary in history.

Didn't Geitner just agree to stay on thru 2012 after Obama asked him to given the current economic situation? "Please please please Tim, I know you may be even more incompetent than me but nobody else will take this job!"

mella;848718 wrote:It is not difficult to balance a budget and spend responsibly.

In my opinion, it all comes down to this cause-and-effect scenario.

1. Those in office promise everything to the American people, thus earning their vote because the people selfishly think "Hey, I'd like that!
2. Those new promises and unnecessary programs get implemented at others' expense.
3. It turns out too much money is being spent on these programs, which have been so well-received by some people since it benefits them.
4. A new group comes in to fix the issue of spending too much, and their method to fixing it is to, you guessed it, lessen the spending! Who woulda thunk it?
5. This new group offers up ways to cut spending to help even out and smooth out the issues/problems, but they are perceived as trying to hurt the American people and called "terrorists" for not letting the gov't spend money, even though the whole point is NOT to spend more money, but to spend less.
6. Media makes this new group out to be the bad guys for those reasons just mentioned.
7. People develop artificial, blind hostility towards this new group even though they are doing what they think is right (and in all seriousness, EVERYONE needs to know that cutting spending is the right thing to do, but when someone from this "new" group offers up things to cut, they get torn apart).

It's hard to reverse this trend. I told a friend a few weeks ago that I truly believe after this next election, things are getting SO BAD that I do not think we will ever see another president from "this other group who is trying to fix the problem" ever again. We are way too far in over our head (both in gov't debt and in media bias). Kudos to the media. They have changed this country to a point where it cannot be reversed.

QuakerOats;849677 wrote:Federal receipts in 2010 vs. 2003, up 21%

Federal outlays in 2010 vs. 2003, up 72%


Anyone that cannot comprehend that we have a spending problem (not a revenue problem), or refuses to do so, should be ineligible for elected office.

care to explain what makes up the outlays?

A democracy will cease as soon as the governed realize that they can vote themselves into the treasury. (Or something to that affect.)

Ty Webb;850021 wrote:Face facts cc

All the Tea Party is are a group of Republicans who on January 20,2009 said "Hey,there is a Democrat in the WH now....lets starting acting like we are different and saying we're different from regular Republicans even though we aren't"

I guarantee you that the next time a Republican becomes President,the Tea "Party" will disappear until a Democrat becomes President again

If a Republican wins the WH next year the Republicans will detach themselves from the Tea Party in a hurry. Actually, it will be something along the lines of "fuck off, we're running the show now".

stlouiedipalma;868458 wrote:If a Republican wins the WH next year the Republicans will detach themselves from the Tea Party in a hurry. Actually, it will be something along the lines of "fuck off, we're running the show now".

Uh huh...sure they will. They got tossed out in 2006 for not doing their jobs. If they don't follow through, they'll be primaried in 2014. Guaranteed.

The TEA Party isn't going away, contrary to the Dems and RINO's wishes. That is, unless they can start spending only what the Treasury collects.

stlouiedipalma;868458 wrote:If a Republican wins the WH next year the Republicans will detach themselves from the Tea Party in a hurry. Actually, it will be something along the lines of "**** off, we're running the show now".

Won't particularly matter. Partisan politics is what gives the Tea Party power, because without them nothing will get passed.

stlouiedipalma;868458 wrote:If a Republican wins the WH next year the Republicans will detach themselves from the Tea Party in a hurry. Actually, it will be something along the lines of "fuck off, we're running the show now".

Perhaps but you can't deny the impact the Tea Party has had on both Dems and RINO Repubs in the past 2 years. The RINO Repubs have already tried to tell the Tea Party wing to "fuck off" but - guess what? - the Tea Party has responded by saying "kiss my ass." The recently budget battle clearly demonstrates that.

Some people have said that we need a strong 3rd party in this country to break up the status quo. I think the Tea Party is as close as we're going to get.

believer;868953 wrote: Some people have said that we need a strong 3rd party in this country to break up the status quo. I think the Tea Party is as close as we're going to get.

I think this is accurate. In the next round of elections I am not voting for any person who is currently in office. They have proved themselves ineffective.

How could anyone not be disgusted with our government at this point? If you actually believe the government is fine and either party is different you are a nut job. The two party system (of which both are basically the same) has ruined any chance of progress ever being made. My #1 complaint is that this country votes career politicians with no actual work experience in the real World into roles so important to our country like President and Congress. How the hell does anyone actually think a community organizer/lawyer/career politician would be a good person to run our country? How president should be a businessman who has had to deal with budgets, manage people, etc., not some ass kissing politician who has worked his way up being on his knees half of the day.

mella;868959 wrote:I think this is accurate. In the next round of elections I am not voting for any person who is currently in office. They have proved themselves ineffective.

Sadly, if a 3rd party candidate emerges that will probably take enough votes from the Repub for Obama to win the election. Wouldn't surprise me in the least to see some of Obama's war chest go to propping up an independent 3rd candidate precisely for that purpose. I believe the Dems and Harry Reid did something similar in Nevada, but maybe just some BS from some right-wig source that I didn't pick-up on.

gut;876188 wrote:Sadly, if a 3rd party candidate emerges that will probably take enough votes from the Repub for Obama to win the election. Wouldn't surprise me in the least to see some of Obama's war chest go to propping up an independent 3rd candidate precisely for that purpose. I believe the Dems and Harry Reid did something similar in Nevada, but maybe just some BS from some right-wig source that I didn't pick-up on.

Harry Reid was indeed encouraging the candidacy of a no-name 3rd party or "Tea Party" candidate, although I don't think that person ended up running or having any noticeable effect

The 'party of civility' strikes again.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/62396.html

It is stunning that despicable liars like this can get elected in this country.

QuakerOats;878232 wrote:The 'party of civility' strikes again.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/62396.html

It is stunning that despicable liars like this can get elected in this country.

I imagine it's not easy to be a guy like Allen West, or any black conservative:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/62414.html

I give him a lot of credit for sticking to conservative principles and going against the prevailing CBC wisdom.