se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jul 23, 2011 1:58pm
I still laugh at everyone pretty much writing off Fickell and his staff.
Jughead
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Jul 23, 2011 2:15pm
Nobody has explained why the NCAA is allowing 4 of the 5 non-amateur players to come back to the team. Under NCAA bylaws, those four players (and Pryor) had forfeited their amateur status by selling items pertaining to college football while they are still playing.
And to those that think Michigan has a chance, hell Brady Hoke will have the gameplan set for Ohio, not OSU.
And to those that think Michigan has a chance, hell Brady Hoke will have the gameplan set for Ohio, not OSU.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Jul 23, 2011 2:18pm
You never know, OSU may get a coach (perhaps Fickell) that is even better than Tressel (or just as good). Be carefull what you wish for.Hb31187;838654 wrote:Am I disappointed that they didnt get the shaft? Sure. But its not the end of the world. And at least TP and Tress are gone as a result of it, so its not all bad from my point of view lol
se-alum;838936 wrote:I still laugh at everyone pretty much writing off Fickell and his staff.
I'm not writing him off quite yet. I'd like to see what he is capable of after all, Tressel was a "nobody" when he showed up at OSU.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jul 23, 2011 2:22pm
They may, but its doubtful. I mean does the signing of a small name coach by UM(Hoke) worry you in the least bit really?dwccrew;838959 wrote:You never know, OSU may get a coach (perhaps Fickell) that is even better than Tressel (or just as good). Be carefull what you wish for.
I'm not writing him off quite yet. I'd like to see what he is capable of after all, Tressel was a "nobody" when he showed up at OSU.
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Jul 23, 2011 2:28pm
dwccrew;838959 wrote:You never know, OSU may get a coach (perhaps Fickell) that is even better than Tressel (or just as good). Be carefull what you wish for.
I'm not writing him off quite yet. I'd like to see what he is capable of after all, Tressel was a "nobody" when he showed up at OSU.
Tressel won 4 national championships before coming to OSU. I don't care if it was I-AA, he certainly had more of a track record than Fickell does now.
sleeper
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Jul 23, 2011 3:45pm
Nothing that I didn't expect to see. I have predicted this for the longest time and got a lot of shit for it. OSU will win the National Championship, and Michigan/ND/Florida/LSU fans will watch it all happen on TV.
Pick6
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Jul 23, 2011 4:25pm
Jughead;838954 wrote:Nobody has explained why the NCAA is allowing 4 of the 5 non-amateur players to come back to the team. Under NCAA bylaws, those four players (and Pryor) had forfeited their amateur status by selling items pertaining to college football while they are still playing.
why does anybody half to explain it? AJ Green was suspended 3-4 games for selling his jersey to an agent.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Jul 23, 2011 6:12pm
Hb31187;838968 wrote:They may, but its doubtful. I mean does the signing of a small name coach by UM(Hoke) worry you in the least bit really?
Not really, but only because the Ohio State program is in such good shape. Conversely, UM's is not, so any hire at OSU should worry Michigan fans IMO.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Jul 23, 2011 6:13pm
Y-Town Steelhound;838975 wrote:Tressel won 4 national championships before coming to OSU. I don't care if it was I-AA, he certainly had more of a track record than Fickell does now.
Note that I had "nobody" in parantheses. Many viewed Tressel as a bad hire, despite all the success he had at YSU.
I am hoping that Fickell will be like some other former Tressel assistants that have moved on to the HC job and had success like Dantonio at UC and MSU and Beckman at Toledo. Maybe Fickell will be the next one?
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jul 23, 2011 6:21pm
dwccrew;839243 wrote:Not really, but only because the Ohio State program is in such good shape. Conversely, UM's is not, so any hire at OSU should worry Michigan fans IMO.
A step down from Tress(which is almost for sure what Fickell will be) doesnt worry UM fans....we view it as a good thing
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Jul 23, 2011 6:28pm
Tress took OSU and put it over the top. The question now becomes: will Fickell be able to build on that success?
I think he can. He's a younger coach who can recruit with the best of them. That alone will put him atop the big 10 every year.
I think he can. He's a younger coach who can recruit with the best of them. That alone will put him atop the big 10 every year.
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Jul 23, 2011 11:39pm
Heard on ESPN Radio tonight and they mentioned this - After August 12th, if the NCAA decides to accept OSU's punishment and move on, should Ohio State rehire Jim Tressel? I forgot who was talking, but he said he read on "The Onion" where this was brought up and that they were certainly joking. What would the critics say then?
karen lotz
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Jul 23, 2011 11:43pm
lol, do you know what The Onion is?
Ty Webb
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Jul 23, 2011 11:49pm
sleeper;839061 wrote:Nothing that I didn't expect to see. I have predicted this for the longest time and got a lot of shit for it. OSU will win the National Championship, and Michigan/ND/Florida/LSU fans will watch it all happen on TV.
I'll bet you everything I own sleeper that OSU doesn't even come close to the National Championship Game
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jul 23, 2011 11:49pm
karen lotz;839486 wrote:lol, do you know what The Onion is?
It's been asked by legitimate sources though. I don't think they'd do it. Talk about creating some bad PR.
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Jul 24, 2011 12:14am
karen lotz;839486 wrote:lol, do you know what The Onion is?
Yes, I know what The Onion is. The point is that they were joking but he, however, was not.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Jul 24, 2011 3:11am
OSU might lose a handful of schoolys but that wont really hurt us at all
Midstate01
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Jul 24, 2011 4:23am
Ty Webb;839493 wrote:I'll bet you everything I own sleeper that OSU doesn't even come close to the National Championship Game
Nobody here will want your signed tebow thong
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jul 24, 2011 9:59am
Though OSU might be tempted to re-hire Tress, not only would it be bad PR, the NCAA would definitely crawl into the inner workings of the OSU athletic department and give it a giant enema.WebFire;839494 wrote:It's been asked by legitimate sources though. I don't think they'd do it. Talk about creating some bad PR.
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Jul 24, 2011 3:38pm
Hb31187;839257 wrote:A step down from Tress(which is almost for sure what Fickell will be) doesnt worry UM fans....we view it as a good thing
A step down from Tress would still be one of the top coaches in the country and certainly capable of beating a lower to mid tier Big Ten team (which is what Michigan currently is).
se-alum
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Jul 24, 2011 4:35pm
This could be the best recruiting staff that OSU has ever had w/ Fickell, Vrabel, Drayton, and Haynes.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jul 24, 2011 5:52pm
dwccrew;839761 wrote:A step down from Tress would still be one of the top coaches in the country and certainly capable of beating a lower to mid tier Big Ten team (which is what Michigan currently is).
You think Fickell is one of the top coaches in the country even before hes coached a game? O.o
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Jul 24, 2011 6:29pm
Hb31187;839854 wrote:You think Fickell is one of the top coaches in the country even before hes coached a game? O.o
Well yeah. He is THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY's head football coach. That alone makes him top 2 if not the outright #1.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jul 24, 2011 6:42pm
Pick6;838929 wrote:still think OSU situation is worse than USCs?
se-alum;839795 wrote:This could be the best recruiting staff that OSU has ever had w/ Fickell, Vrabel, Drayton, and Haynes.
What makes each of those guys better recruiters than Tressel?
And how quickly we forget how well Cooper recruited.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jul 24, 2011 7:06pm
thedynasty1998;839900 wrote:What makes each of those guys better recruiters than Tressel?
And how quickly we forget how well Cooper recruited.
Never stated that any one of those guys was better than Tressel.