Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Jul 18, 2011 11:48pm
you send Travis Wood, Edinson Volquez and Yonder Alonso to Colorado
You get Ubaldo Jimenez.
That is the package that Jon Heyman said it may be to land Jimenez.
You get Ubaldo Jimenez.
That is the package that Jon Heyman said it may be to land Jimenez.
TigerNation10
Posts: 483
Jul 18, 2011 11:53pm
Simply put, yes.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jul 19, 2011 12:14am
Without a fucking doubt.
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Jul 19, 2011 12:15am
hell yeah but that's just a starting point. It's going to take more.
Ty Webb
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Jul 19, 2011 12:16am
He also said that they may also be able to get a "top relief pitcher"
TigerNation10
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Jul 19, 2011 12:39am
Heath Bell?Ty Webb;833977 wrote:He also said that they may also be able to get a "top relief pitcher"
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Jul 19, 2011 12:39am
That is the only name I could think of since they missed out on Rodriguez.
Midstate01
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Jul 19, 2011 1:19am
I'll say it again. We need hitting!!!!!!!!!
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dave
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Jul 19, 2011 1:35am
Midstate01;834002 wrote:I'll say it again. We need hitting!!!!!!!!!
Don't worry, former Card Ryan Ludwick is out there. If they can't get him they will go after John Mabry.
Midstate01
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Jul 19, 2011 1:35am
dave;834005 wrote:Don't worry, former Card Ryan Ludwick is out there. If they can't get him they will go after John Mabry.
No thanks!!
ernest_t_bass
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Jul 19, 2011 9:14am
Ty, can I trade you to JJHuddle for some other people?
sleeper
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Jul 19, 2011 9:45am
If I were the Reds GM, I'd find a job where I could compete for championships.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jul 19, 2011 9:55am
What is Jiminez contract look like?
I am not ready to give up on EV yet. Wood is a dime a dozen type of pitcher, and Alonso is expendable with the roster the reds already have.
I would lean towards yes if Jimenez is under contract for another two seasons.
I am not ready to give up on EV yet. Wood is a dime a dozen type of pitcher, and Alonso is expendable with the roster the reds already have.
I would lean towards yes if Jimenez is under contract for another two seasons.
karen lotz
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Jul 19, 2011 9:58am
Signed thru 2012 with club options for 2013 and 2014.
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thavoice
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Jul 19, 2011 10:03am
Very tempting. I guess this all comes down to what the reds internally think of Volquez and if he can return to glory.
Thing is...he has had one very good half of a season. Got tanked in the AS game, and has been bad since.
I am thinking I would do it but would have to research Jiminez a bit more
Thing is...he has had one very good half of a season. Got tanked in the AS game, and has been bad since.
I am thinking I would do it but would have to research Jiminez a bit more
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jul 19, 2011 10:11am
karen lotz;834153 wrote:Signed thru 2012 with club options for 2013 and 2014.
And pretty cheap.
I would definitely trade Volquez for Jimenez. Jimenez is a solid sub-4 era guy. He's not really an Ace, but would be very nice to have behind Cueto. A rotation of:thavoice;834157 wrote:Very tempting. I guess this all comes down to what the reds internally think of Volquez and if he can return to glory.
Thing is...he has had one very good half of a season. Got tanked in the AS game, and has been bad since.
I am thinking I would do it but would have to research Jiminez a bit more
Cueto
Jimenez
Leake
Chapman
Arroyo
Can you imagine a 3 game series where you have to go from Jimenez to Leake to Chapman or Chapman to Arroyo to Cueto. That would be tough on a team.
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thavoice
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Jul 19, 2011 10:40am
I am hoping that Chapman gets into the rotation. I think he can be a randy johnson type of pitcher. I really do. I think they may want him as the closer, which I would not prefer. I think you can find a guy who can be a solid closer, but to find a starter who I think can dominate for quite awhile...I go with starter every time.
justincredible
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Jul 19, 2011 10:47am
Chapman needs to start. Nick Masset can be the closer when CoCo leaves. If he figures out April he'd probably be the best closer in the game.
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thavoice
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Jul 19, 2011 10:55am
&^^ Agreed. I think Massett has the stuff to be a great closer, but sometimes guys just flat out cannot handle the pressure.
I think he has nasty stuff...if he can just get that first batter out he faces! Would hate to see how many of his first batters get on.
I think he has nasty stuff...if he can just get that first batter out he faces! Would hate to see how many of his first batters get on.
justincredible
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Jul 19, 2011 11:06am
First batter has a .273/.304/.341 line.
swamisez
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Jul 19, 2011 11:09am
Would do it for two, not three. Price tag seems a little high. Agree with one who mentioned hitting being the problem not pitching. Whats Xavier Nady up to these days?
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thavoice
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Jul 19, 2011 11:09am
Ouch. That has to improve to be a starter though as many times when he comes in to save a game the tieing and winning runs will be in place.
I knew it was pretty high, any site show what percentage of his inherited runners score and where he ranks?
I knew it was pretty high, any site show what percentage of his inherited runners score and where he ranks?
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jul 19, 2011 11:15am
thavoice;834240 wrote:Ouch. That has to improve to be a starter though as many times when he comes in to save a game the tieing and winning runs will be in place.
I knew it was pretty high, any site show what percentage of his inherited runners score and where he ranks?
You mean a closer?
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thavoice
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Jul 19, 2011 11:42am
my bad.
se-alum
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Jul 19, 2011 12:01pm
From all that I've read, Chapman is likely a starter next season. I don't think there has ever been serious talk about making him a closer, unless he shows that he can't hack it as a starter.thavoice;834203 wrote:I am hoping that Chapman gets into the rotation. I think he can be a randy johnson type of pitcher. I really do. I think they may want him as the closer, which I would not prefer. I think you can find a guy who can be a solid closer, but to find a starter who I think can dominate for quite awhile...I go with starter every time.