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                                Jul 17, 2011 11:07am
                            
                        
                                Stubbs 8 
Cozart 6
Votto 3
Phillips 4
Gomes 7
Bruce 9
Cairo 5
Hanigan 2
Bailey 1
                        Cozart 6
Votto 3
Phillips 4
Gomes 7
Bruce 9
Cairo 5
Hanigan 2
Bailey 1
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                                Jul 17, 2011 11:50am
                            
                        
                                Gomes 5th...unreal.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Jul 17, 2011 11:55am
                            
                        
                                Yeah no shit, can't believe Walt sees a reason to keep him around.
                            
                        justincredible
                                                                            
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                                Jul 17, 2011 12:04pm
                            
                        
                                Gomes hits lefties well, doesn't he?
                            
                        justincredible
                                                                            
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                                Jul 17, 2011 12:08pm
                            
                        
                                Gomes has a 1.000+ OPS vs LHP
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Jul 17, 2011 12:20pm
                            
                        That number is highly skewed by all those walks he got in the first couple weeks of the season. His average is very good (.360) but that's probably from his hot start as well. He's got 3 homers and 2 doubles in 50 official at bats. OK numbers but not if you can only do 1 thing to help the team.justincredible;832085 wrote:Gomes has a 1.000+ OPS vs LHP
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                                Jul 17, 2011 12:55pm
                            
                        
                                I'm okay with a spot start for Gomes. Find it a little weird that one of the guys who have been struggling pretty much all season and has lost PT gets slotted in the 5th spot upon his return to lineup
                            
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                                Jul 17, 2011 1:08pm
                            
                        
                                I would prefer Cairo in the 5th spot over Gomes.
                            
                        Ironman92
                                                                            
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                                Jul 17, 2011 1:13pm
                            
                        se-alum;832110 wrote:I would prefer Cairo in the 5th spot over Gomes.
I'd prefer my mom in the 5th spot over Gomes.
                                        
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                                Jul 17, 2011 1:16pm
                            
                        lmaoIronman92;832113 wrote:I'd prefer my mom in the 5th spot over Gomes.
I don't mind a spot start either, none of these guys are good. Just don't put him in a position where he can possibly get more ABs than Bruce, Cairo, or even Hanny.
                                        
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                                Jul 17, 2011 1:17pm
                            
                        
                                Hope Garcia wears down in this heat, it's hot as balls out.
 
 
Nice start by Homer.
                        Nice start by Homer.
                                        
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                                Jul 17, 2011 1:26pm
                            
                        
                                nasty hook by Garcia.
                            
                        se-alum
                                                                            
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                                Jul 17, 2011 1:29pm
                            
                        Is it hot in Cincy?? Only about 80 degrees here in Ross County.dave;832116 wrote:Hope Garcia wears down in this heat, it's hot as balls out.
Nice start by Homer.
                                        
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                                Jul 17, 2011 1:37pm
                            
                        
                                It's 88 outside my window here in Mason.  Humid, no breeze.
 
 
Gomes 1 pitch, 1 weak ground out to lead off the inning.
                        Gomes 1 pitch, 1 weak ground out to lead off the inning.
justincredible
                                                                            
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                                Jul 17, 2011 1:43pm
                            
                        dave;832089 wrote:That number is highly skewed by all those walks he got in the first couple weeks of the season. His average is very good (.360) but that's probably from his hot start as well. He's got 3 homers and 2 doubles in 50 official at bats. OK numbers but not if you can only do 1 thing to help the team.
He only has 10 BB vs LHP and 27 vs RHP so I don't think the walks have skewed the OPS. Gomes' best month was actually June. His "hot" start only produced a .828 OPS. He was awful in may with a .545 OPS but had a 1.015 OPS in June.
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                                Jul 17, 2011 1:55pm
                            
                        
                                Terrible strike 3 call on Cozart.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Jul 17, 2011 1:58pm
                            
                        justincredible;832128 wrote:He only has 10 BB vs LHP and 27 vs RHP so I don't think the walks have skewed the OPS. Gomes' best month was actually June. His "hot" start only produced a .828 OPS. He was awful in may with a .545 OPS but had a 1.015 OPS in June.
He had 1 extra base hit in June against LHP. His numbers against LHP have been dropping since April.
His walk rate is higher against LHP than RHP, but it is abnormally high against both. That's why his overall OBP is still good.
In June he actually turned it around against RHP a little.
                                        
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                                Jul 17, 2011 1:59pm
                            
                        se-alum;832136 wrote:Terrible strike 3 call on Cozart.
These "substandard" ball and strike callers can take a good hitter and confuse him so he doesn't know if a real strike will be called or a real ball will be called such.
                                        
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                                Jul 17, 2011 2:04pm
                            
                        
                                time for some runs
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Jul 17, 2011 2:10pm
                            
                        
                                damn, so close to a 2 run bomb.
                            
                        Ironman92
                                                                            
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                                Jul 17, 2011 2:11pm
                            
                        
                                I'm not going to harp on Gomes batting....I really don't care...just want the Reds to score runs like they should and win.
The problem at batting 5th....no matter how good 1,2,6-9 have been in the order....when 3-5 are knocking in runs, the Reds win.
                        The problem at batting 5th....no matter how good 1,2,6-9 have been in the order....when 3-5 are knocking in runs, the Reds win.
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                                Jul 17, 2011 2:13pm
                            
                        
                                To me it's more of a slap on Bruce vs the lefty....But Bruce has been solid on lefties and looks comfortable against Garcia.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Jul 17, 2011 2:15pm
                            
                        
                                terrible.  time to watch Hope Solo.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Jul 17, 2011 2:15pm
                            
                        
                                Jonny Gomes, like lots of Reds hitters, is painfully greedy!  If someone who really appreciates the value of getting that run in, like Cairo, was up there, that first slow pitch on the outside would have been plinked out to 2B or into RF such that even if an out is made, the run scores.  Wasted a lead-off double again!  How many is that in just this series?
                            
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                                Jul 17, 2011 2:17pm
                            
                        
                                Piss ass offense not to move the runner from 2nd on a leadoff double.....Rasmus made a nice play but #4-#6 has to get that run in.....that's the Reds.