bases_loaded
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 6,912
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 5, 2011 3:56pm
                            
                        
                                Things should be heating up...post rumors and trades here along with your trade ideas.
                            
                        BigAppleBuckeye
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 2,935
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 5, 2011 4:14pm
                            
                        
                                The rumor here in NYC is that the Red Sox are very interested in Carlos Beltran, but not sure of what the Mets could actually get for him (although his recent All-Star selection certainly helps his value a bit).
                            
                        Midstate01
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 14,766
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 5, 2011 4:15pm
                            
                        
                                Hopefully there are some blockbusters!
                            
                        BRF
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 8,748
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 5, 2011 4:19pm
                            
                        
                                Austin Kearns has now been taken off the trade block.  
Ain't it ironic that the Tribe is not unloading this year?
                        Ain't it ironic that the Tribe is not unloading this year?
hoops23
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 15,696
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 5, 2011 4:25pm
                            
                        
                                Nope, instead the Tribe is actually looking for a right handed bat.
                            
                        Wooball
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 1,325
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 5, 2011 4:38pm
                            
                        
                                Should be interesting to see what the Tribe does before the July 31st trade deadline. In the past Dolan has said that ownership will spend when the team is ready to compete. Within the last couple weeks, Antonetti has said that they will wait to see how the team plays for a little while longer before making a deal. Before the end of the month the Tribe has:
2 vs NYY
4 vs TOR
4 at BAL
4 at MIN
3 vs CWS
3 vs LAA
3 vs KC
If they play well, they have a chance to better their record. 15 of their 23 games the rest of this month are at home and the 8 road games are against teams under .500. Their 2 biggest needs are a right handed bat, and it would be nice to add a quality left handed starter with some experience.
They have nice depth of starters in the minors, as well as some infielders at AAA/Cleveland that could be used:
Pitchers: Alex White, Drew Pomeranz, Nick Hagadone, Zach McAllister, Jeanmar Gomez, Scott Barnes, David Huff, Kelvin De La Cruz, Hector Rondon, Mike Rayl, Josh Judy
Position players: Lonnie Chisenhall, Cord Phelps, Jason Kipnis, Luis Valbuena, Jason Donald, Ezequiel Carrera, Matt McBride and Jesus Aguilar at A-ball.
I'd say Chisenhall, White and Pomeranz are untouchable, but I think anyone of those other guys could be put into a deal to acquire a right handed bat.
                        2 vs NYY
4 vs TOR
4 at BAL
4 at MIN
3 vs CWS
3 vs LAA
3 vs KC
If they play well, they have a chance to better their record. 15 of their 23 games the rest of this month are at home and the 8 road games are against teams under .500. Their 2 biggest needs are a right handed bat, and it would be nice to add a quality left handed starter with some experience.
They have nice depth of starters in the minors, as well as some infielders at AAA/Cleveland that could be used:
Pitchers: Alex White, Drew Pomeranz, Nick Hagadone, Zach McAllister, Jeanmar Gomez, Scott Barnes, David Huff, Kelvin De La Cruz, Hector Rondon, Mike Rayl, Josh Judy
Position players: Lonnie Chisenhall, Cord Phelps, Jason Kipnis, Luis Valbuena, Jason Donald, Ezequiel Carrera, Matt McBride and Jesus Aguilar at A-ball.
I'd say Chisenhall, White and Pomeranz are untouchable, but I think anyone of those other guys could be put into a deal to acquire a right handed bat.
Heretic
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 18,820
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 5, 2011 5:50pm
                            
                        
                                This year's weird, as I have no idea what (if anything) the Pirates will do. They're in contention, so they shouldn't be sellers, but July will be interesting to see if that holds up. The early part of the month, they have the Cubs and Astros so, in theory, they'll stay in good contention. But they finish with games with the Reds, Cards, Brewers and Braves. Then, after a few early August series with the Cubs and Astros, they have about a 20-day stretch against those good teams if you replace the Braves with the Giants. 
I can't see them being big purchasers, but I can't see them selling.
                        I can't see them being big purchasers, but I can't see them selling.
Azubuike24
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 15,933
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 5, 2011 5:59pm
                            
                        
                                The Pirates could still trade a piece or two, but at the same time continue to contend and possibly even upgrade.  If he continues to heat up, I'd think they would definitely move Overbay.  If they could get a huge haul for Maholm, I'd move him too.  He's pitching way above his career numbers.
Move a guy like Overbay and it might free up enough to make a bigger move to maybe upgrade the bullpen and/or rotation with someone more longer-term. Given the division, they are in it for the long-haul IMO.
                        Move a guy like Overbay and it might free up enough to make a bigger move to maybe upgrade the bullpen and/or rotation with someone more longer-term. Given the division, they are in it for the long-haul IMO.
Midstate01
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 14,766
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 5, 2011 6:02pm
                            
                        
                                Pirates should just stay where they are. Don't give up too much to get one guy, and don't give away guys just to save money. They are right where the reds were a few years ago. Let things run their course, and if a deal comes along that can really help you, then you move on it.
                            
                        Midstate01
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 14,766
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 5, 2011 6:24pm
                            
                        
                                #Marlins acquire Mike Cameron & cash from Red Sox in exchange for PTBNL or cash
Retweeted by Buster_ESPN
                        Retweeted by Buster_ESPN
                                        
                                            B
                                        
                                    
                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 24,104
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 5, 2011 6:27pm
                            
                        BRF;821766 wrote:Austin Kearns has now been taken off the trade block.
Ain't it ironic that the Tribe is not unloading this year?
Hmmm...I heard St Louis was willing to deal Pujols for him straight up?
Azubuike24
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 15,933
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 5, 2011 6:38pm
                            
                        Midstate01;821869 wrote:#Marlins acquire Mike Cameron & cash from Red Sox in exchange for PTBNL or cash
Retweeted by Buster_ESPN
I'm baffled as to why...the Marlins are one of the few teams with absolutely zero chance to contend for anything...
I GOT IT!
Jack McKeon was the Reds' manager when they traded Mike Cameron to Seattle for Ken Griffey Jr. Maybe Jack and Mike were buddies for a short-time before the trade? I can't think of any other justifiable reason...
dazedconfused
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 2,662
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 6, 2011 12:16am
                            
                        
                                i wish there was any way the indians could get aramis ramirez but no chance that happens (whether it be ramirez's no trade clause or being too rich for the indians blood for just a rental)
                            
                        jordo212000
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 10,664
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 6, 2011 7:02am
                            
                        dazedconfused;822141 wrote:i wish there was any way the indians could get aramis ramirez but no chance that happens (whether it be ramirez's no trade clause or being too rich for the indians blood for just a rental)
What about Chisenhall?
se-alum
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 13,948
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 6, 2011 9:11am
                            
                        
                                I look for the Reds to deal Hernandez, and they have plenty of chips in the minors to deal. They obviously need a right handed bat behind Votto.
                            
                        Ty Webb
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 2,798
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 6, 2011 6:25pm
                            
                        
                                The White Sox are scouting pitching from Atlanta.
Brandon Beachy and Derek Lowe are 2 names that have come up
                        Brandon Beachy and Derek Lowe are 2 names that have come up
Ironman92
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 49,363
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 6, 2011 7:49pm
                            
                        Ty Webb;822720 wrote:The White Sox are scouting pitching from Atlanta.
Brandon Beachy and Derek Lowe are 2 names that have come up
They could trade Dunner to the Braves and he and Uggla could race to 80 hits on the season.
Crimson streak
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 9,002
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 6, 2011 7:55pm
                            
                        
                                I would love to send Grady to a team and grab a power bat in lf and move Brantley to center
                            
                        Crimson streak
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 9,002
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 6, 2011 8:12pm
                            
                        
                                Maybe Sizemore and a prospect or 2 for pence and wandy rodriguiz
                            
                        Crimson streak
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 9,002
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 6, 2011 8:22pm
                            
                        
                                Edit...wrong thread
                            
                        Laley23
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 29,506
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 6, 2011 8:57pm
                            
                        Crimson streak;822791 wrote:Maybe Sizemore and a prospect or 2 for pence and wandy rodriguiz
That would be amazing. I would give up a top guy and Grady for Pence and Wandy. Solid addition to the staff (depth purposes; sub 4 ERA for 3 years and this one) and a proven .300/25/90 guy who hits righty and plays the OF. Plus, signed for a few more years I think. I love the guys we have in Columbus, but you cant keep them in favor of proven guys under contract.
karen lotz
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 22,284
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 6, 2011 10:20pm
                            
                        I pray that the White Sox take Derek Lowe.Ty Webb;822720 wrote:The White Sox are scouting pitching from Atlanta.
Brandon Beachy and Derek Lowe are 2 names that have come up
karen lotz
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 22,284
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 6, 2011 10:21pm
                            
                        Crimson streak;822791 wrote:Maybe Sizemore and a prospect or 2 for pence and wandy rodriguiz
Its going to take a lot more than Grady Sizemore to get Pence and Rodriguez. Latest rumor is Astros have no interest in moving Pence.
Laley23
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 29,506
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 6, 2011 10:28pm
                            
                        karen lotz;822998 wrote:Its going to take a lot more than Grady Sizemore to get Pence and Rodriguez. Latest rumor is Astros have no interest in moving Pence.
Right. Gomez, Kipnis, Phelps, etc would all be in play if I was the GM.
                                        
                                            S
                                        
                                    
                                                                sportswizuhrd
                                                                            
                                            Posts: 3,215
                                        
                                                                    
                                Jul 6, 2011 10:50pm
                            
                        Laley23;823013 wrote:Right. Gomez, Kipnis, Phelps, etc would all be in play if I was the GM.
Astrons don't want to trade Pence,
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/07/astros-notes-wandy-bourn-lee-pence-myers.html
and...
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/07/cafardo-on-dodgers-hardy-wandy-twins.html"It’s no secret that [Wandy Rodriguez] is being watched closely by the Yankees, who have sent a few people to watch some of his starts," Cafardo writes. As FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal noted a few weeks ago, the Yankees would want Rodriguez at the back of their rotation while the Astros would want a trade package befitting an ace, so there may not be a fit between the two teams. Cafardo notes that Brett Myers "also remains on the Yankees' radar."
Indians would have to give up an ace. Maybe Gomez?(is he considered an "ace"?)