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Feb 7, 2012 2:20 PM
bigdaddy2003;1078508 wrote:Ricky Williams has retired.
Again? Is it for real this time?
Feb 7, 2012 2:20pm
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Feb 7, 2012 4:24 PM
Anyone on here see the video of Gronk and some other Patriots partying after the Super Bowl? You would have thought they won the game and that Gronk actually was 100%. He was jumping around and dancing like a nut.

Guys like Tom Brady were crushed after the loss. I guess some got over it faster than others. I can't imagine being in the mood to party right after losing the Super Bowl.
Feb 7, 2012 4:24pm
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Feb 7, 2012 4:32 PM
bigdaddy2003;1078508 wrote:Ricky Williams has retired.
At least he has that medical practice to fall back on now that he isn't playing anymore.
Feb 7, 2012 4:32pm
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Feb 7, 2012 6:10 PM
Gronk is a terrible dancer. And the Gronkowski brothers are the real-life O'Doyles.
Feb 7, 2012 6:10pm
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Feb 7, 2012 6:23 PM
Yeah, I don't know wtf dance Gronk was trying to do but that looked awful.
Feb 7, 2012 6:23pm
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Feb 7, 2012 7:31 PM
The only good thing about the NFL season ending is idiot NON goes in hiding, because the pirates suck ass.
Feb 7, 2012 7:31pm
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Feb 7, 2012 10:42 PM
Commander of Awesome;1078527 wrote:Again? Is it for real this time?
Who knows. A few days ago I received a text saying that he was coming back next season and then today I received the one stating he was done. I guess we shall see.
Feb 7, 2012 10:42pm
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Feb 8, 2012 1:47 PM
[h=1]Ranking the NFL’s announce teams[/h] The Elite
• Brad Nessler and Mike Mayock, NFL Network: Because the NFL’s Thursday night slate didn’t start until Week 10, this pairing only worked together a handful of times. But man, were they good.
Nessler is energetic without being overly excitable, saving his best calls for the moments that necessitate them. His demeanor turned out to be the perfect match for Mayock, who was so good that SI’s Richard Deitsch named him the “Person of the Year” in his annual Media Awards. Not only does Mayock sound extremely prepared each game, but he takes that knowledge and easily translates it to the viewer.
Thanks to the duo’s talents and the relatively weak slate of Thursday games this year, by season’s end people were tuning into the NFL Network’s broadcasts as much for the announcing as the games.
Solid Starters
• Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth, NBC: Not everyone’s a fan of this pairing — including the NFL’s players themselves, who voted Collinsworth their least favorite commentator in an SI poll. You know what? I get it. There are times when he sounds like he thinks he was the greatest player of all-time.
Collinsworth knows his stuff, though, even if it took him a little while to get comfortable during the Super Bowl. The fourth quarter of last Sunday’s game was an example of this pairing at its best: Michaels and Collinsworth were spot on, like when Collinsworth foreshadowed New England’s parting-of-the-Red-Sea defense on Ahmad Bradshaw’s touchdown.
Combine a knowledgeable analyst with one of the great play-by-play men of all-time, and you’re going to get a solid result more often than not.
• Ian Eagle and Dan Fouts, CBS: Technically, this is CBS’ No. 3 crew, behind Jim Nantz-Phil Simms and Greg Gumbel-Dan Dierdorf. That’s about two spots too low, in my opinion.
Eagle and Fouts have a great dynamic going — they’re solid on the game call without being too serious about it. Fouts is kind of a goofy personality in the booth, and Eagle facilitates that. Most of the credit here, in fact, goes to Eagle, who is as solid as they come on play-by-play duties.
• Mike Tirico, Ron Jaworski and Jon Gruden, ESPN: I know, I know. Gruden’s insane, Jaws can be pedantic and Tirico loves to get off topic.
But let’s be honest about it: How often is this group boring? Whether it’s Gruden mistaking a picture of Michelle Obama for sideline reporter Lisa Salter or Jaworski firing off a curse word after a bad play by Chad Henne, these guys are entertaining together. Given recent “Monday Night Football” groupings, that’s something.
Reliable Backups
• Joe Buck and Troy Aikman, FOX: Buck probably stirs more debate than any announcer out there, mostly because he’s ALWAYS ON as the No. 1 guy for FOX’s baseball and football telecasts. Cards on the table: I’m not a huge fan. A lot of the time, he sounds disinterested, and Aikman rarely gets all that excited either.
But let’s give credit where credit is due. This tandem was at its absolute best during this year’s playoffs, mainly because Buck, for whatever reason (some say his increased presence on Twitter has made him more aware of what viewers want) cranked up his energy. His call of Hakeem Nicks’ Hail Mary catch vs. Green Bay was terrific.
• Kenny Albert, Daryl Johnston and Tony Siragusa, FOX: Siragusa is the lone “sideline reporter” on the list, so maybe it’s not fair to include him, but FOX insists on promoting this trio together. And that’s a shame, because Albert is a great play-by-play guy and Johnston is a solid analyst. “Goose,” however, is a distracting presence who rarely adds anything from his post in the end zone.
• Jim Nantz and Phil Simms, CBS: Truth be told, Nantz and Simms were higher until the AFC title game. But their performance that day highlighted an ongoing issue: These two make way too many mistakes for CBS’ No. 1 crew.
When Baltimore’s Michael Oher hobbled off the field injured, Nantz made the (obvious) reference to “The Blind Side” movie, then talked about how Jah Reid would now be protecting “Joe Flacco’s blindside.” One problem: Oher doesn’t play on Flacco’s blindside and hasn’t for some time. Nantz and Simms then repeatedly misidentified Julian Edelman as Wes Welker, and vice versa. That’s an inexcusable mistake to make.

• Greg Gumbel and Dan Dierdorf, CBS: If you’re looking for a hyped-up call of the game, keep going to the next duo on this list. Gumbel and Dierdorf are a reliable pairing, however, even if Dierdorf’s barebones approach to analysis has started to get lapped by the Mayocks and Collinsworths of the world.
• Gus Johnson and Charles Davis, FOX: Kind of an incomplete grade here, because Johnson and Davis really were paired for college football and only occasionally crossed over to the NFL. When they did, it was a treat for the viewer. I’m sure there are some fans out there who can’t get on board with Johnson’s superfan-level excitement, but I’m not one of them.
Special Teamers
• Marv Albert and Rich Gannon, CBS: It’s not the worst draw, by any means, if your team gets handed this duo, even if Albert’s reputation exceeds his ability to call NFL games these days. They’re dropped because they tend to misread moments, from time to time. To wit: Neither picked up on Stevie Johnson’s Plaxico Burress-mocking TD celebration in the Bills-Jets November matchup.
• Kevin Harlan and Solomon Wilcots, CBS: A Wall Street Journal study last year found that this team spoke more words per minute than any other tandem. The sample size for that examination was small, but it’s part of why Harlan and Wilcots are not higher — the best announcers know the value of keeping quiet from time to time.
• Thom Brennaman and Brian Billick, FOX: The real issue with the Brennaman-Billick team was front and center in Week 14′s Minnesota-Detroit game. The Lions, who a week earlier melted down in New Orleans, committed their first personal foul in the third quarter. Brennaman went nuts — “So finally, finally, here it is,” he shouted. That type of thing happens too frequently; this pairing too often gets stuck on its talking points and can’t get away from them.
• Spero Dedes and Steve Beuerlein, CBS: The ceiling might be higher for this duo than any other, unless CBS (understandably) bumps Dedes alone up its ranks. Lakers and Knicks fans — as well as early-round NCAA Tournament watchers — know how solid he is calling hoops. Football fans are learning that he’s equally as adept for the gridiron.
• Sam Rosen and Chad Pennington, FOX: This is the No. 7 team for FOX, and it’s just kind of an odd pairing. Rosen has been calling New York Rangers games forever, with a sprinkling of NFL on the side. Pennington, meanwhile, hopped straight to the booth after retiring from playing. Together, it’s a clunky mix that I wouldn’t be shocked to see split up in 2012.
• Dick Stockton and John Lynch, FOX: And speaking of clunky mixes … Stockton is a long-time, respected veteran, but he’s about to turn 70 and, unfortunately, is not quite the announcer he used to be. You’re likely to hear him make at least a couple of mistakes per game. Lynch, like Pennington, seems to improve the more he’s in the booth.
Practice Squad
• Ron Pitts and Jim Mora Jr., FOX: I’ll understand if this is one of the rankings people disagree with — I actually like Pitts as a play-by-play man quite a bit. I was a lot less fond of Mora’s work this season, starting in Week 2 when he unnecessarily hammered Cam Newton for wearing a towel over his head while Carolina’s defense was on the field. It often felt like Mora’s analysis jumped from effusive praise to all-out criticism with no middle ground.
• Bill Macatee and Steve Tasker, CBS: Macatee-Tasker represents CBS’ sixth team, meaning that it’s on the chopping block in weeks the network has a smaller number of games. Tasker does decent work, though Macatee actually sounds much more at home when he’s calling tennis and golf, both sports that he calls regularly.
• Chris Myers and Tim Ryan, FOX: There are some announcers who simply do better work in a complementary role. For me at least, Myers is one of those guys. Put him on the sideline or in the studio, and he can be sensational. That delivery does not always translate to the booth, though, for Myers’ play-by-play work.
I could see Ryan, on the other hand, becoming more popular. He takes things a little past the Mayock line — Ryan absolutely knows his stuff, but he can slip into very technical explanations, which must be confusing for casual football viewers.
• Don Criqui and Randy Cross, CBS: You’re not alone if you did not hear this team this season — it was relegated to the bottom of CBS’ depth chart and only saw action in a couple of weeks.
Feb 8, 2012 1:47pm
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Feb 8, 2012 2:16 PM
Commander of Awesome;1079797 wrote:Ranking the NFL’s announce teams
I think Jaworski is the best color guy at explaining the in depth portion of what just happened and why.
Feb 8, 2012 2:16pm
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Feb 8, 2012 2:24 PM
Maybe it's cause I'm a Cowboys fan who grew up loving Aikman but I love it when Aikman and Buck call games.

My top 5 would go:

Aikman/Buck
Eagle/Fouts
Johnson/Davis
Tirico/Jaws/Gruden
Albert/Johnson/Siragusa

I would have Nantz/Simms and Michaels/Collinsworth up there but I feel like Simms and Collinsworth are just terrible.
Feb 8, 2012 2:24pm
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Feb 8, 2012 2:36 PM
Mine would go Donovan then Gus Johnson. Then everyone else.
Feb 8, 2012 2:36pm
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Feb 8, 2012 2:57 PM
I think Ian Eagle is great. Aikman is a really solid color-guy. The MNF team might be my favorite overall team.

But I don't have NFL network, so I can't judge that team.
Feb 8, 2012 2:57pm
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Feb 8, 2012 4:08 PM
Aikman/buck arent bad, but I just dont like the whole overall setting/production of the games on Fox for whatever reason. Maybe because i am a steelers fan and most games are on CBS but from the pregame, postgame and in game I am not a fan of the fox broadcast.

I used to love their pre and post game but, I dont know what happened, like they try too hard to make jokes or whatnot. Who knows.



I like Simms and Nantz...but maybe that is because they get the biggest games and i am more interested for those games. Who knows.


Iliketurtles;1079863 wrote:Maybe it's cause I'm a Cowboys fan who grew up loving Aikman but I love it when Aikman and Buck call games.

My top 5 would go:

Aikman/Buck
Eagle/Fouts
Johnson/Davis
Tirico/Jaws/Gruden
Albert/Johnson/Siragusa

I would have Nantz/Simms and Michaels/Collinsworth up there but I feel like Simms and Collinsworth are just terrible.
Feb 8, 2012 4:08pm
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Feb 13, 2012 3:41 PM
Joe Buck is just an absoulte joke of an announcer. So monotone and is just blah. I cant stand the guy. Aikman is just as boring, but who wouldnt be after lisetning to Buck all game? Maybe if he was with Gus, Aikman woul dbe better. But tha duo is closer to the 4th best for Fox, imo.

Mike Mayock and Brad Nessler are by far the best NFL combo. My rankings would go:

1. Nessler/Mayock.
2. Eagle/Fouts
3. Tirico/Jaws/Gruden
4. Michaels/Collinsworth/Flannigan (best sideline reporter, imo)
5. Johnson/Davis (Need a 2nd season, and people will agree)

Nantz/Simms would probably 6th, and Nantz would be the reason. He is as solid as they come, but Phil Simms is a blowhard and sucks. Give Nantz another color guy, and he is a top 3 pairing.

I honestly dont understand why Fox has their #1 as Buck/Aikman cause they both suck. I get CBS with Nantz because he is the best PxP guy CBS has at their disposal. But they need to ditch Simms and give Nantz someone else.
Feb 13, 2012 3:41pm
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Feb 13, 2012 3:41 PM
Joe Buck is just an absoulte joke of an announcer. So monotone and is
just blah. I cant stand the guy. Aikman is just as boring, but who
wouldnt be after lisetning to Buck all game? Maybe if he was with Gus,
Aikman woul dbe better. But tha duo is closer to the 4th best for Fox,
imo.<br><br>Mike Mayock and Brad Nessler are by far the best NFL combo. My rankings would go:<br><br>1. Nessler/Mayock. <br>2. Eagle/Fouts<br>3. Tirico/Jaws/Gruden<br>4. Michaels/Collinsworth/Flannigan (best sideline reporter, imo)<br>5. Johnson/Davis (Need a 2nd season, and people will agree)<br><br>Nantz/Simms would probably 6th, and Nantz would be the reason. He is as solid as they come, but Phil Simms is a blowhard and sucks. Give Nantz another color guy, and he is a top 3 pairing. <br><br>I honestly dont understand why Fox has their #1 as Buck/Aikman cause they both suck. I get CBS with Nantz because he is the best PxP guy CBS has at their disposal. But they need to ditch Simms and give Nantz someone else.
Feb 13, 2012 3:41pm
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Feb 15, 2012 12:30 PM
Jaws is out for MNF

Will be a 2 man booth w/ Gruden and Tirico

Jaws will be analyst for ESPN on a new 5 year contract
Feb 15, 2012 12:30pm
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Feb 15, 2012 1:56 PM
Yes!!! Can't stand jaws. WAYYYY over analyzes things!!!
Feb 15, 2012 1:56pm
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Feb 15, 2012 2:08 PM
Jaws is a better analyst than Gruden. It was pretty clear that he was getting squeezed out of MNF broadcasts though.
Feb 15, 2012 2:08pm
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Feb 26, 2012 11:44 PM
To add about TO: didn't make a catch in the third or fourth when they pressed him.
Feb 26, 2012 11:44pm