Ironman92
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 12:02pm
                            
                        
                                Reds are 8-3 when I start the thread.
Phillips going to RF is a great sign...Gomes going to RF is unbelievable.
                        Phillips going to RF is a great sign...Gomes going to RF is unbelievable.
                                        
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                                                                thavoice
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 1:12pm
                            
                        
                                Watched some of the game, probably 2/3 of it but didnt see any of the runs.  Went to bed when Cueto was shaking hands in the dugout signifying he was being taken out.
Didnt see Gomes hits....were they hits to RF that he looked like he was trying to becuase of where it was pitched or was it accidental?
I have seen guys get a hit oppo and people say "great job, way to go the other way" but in reality he did pull his head, hips flew open, and he just got lucky.
Phillips is his best when he hits to RC. He gets into funks when he tries to hit a 3 run HR with only one guy on base. He swings outta his shoes a bit too often for what he should. Guys like him cannot get away with that type of hitting.
Who are the reds facing tonite?
                        Didnt see Gomes hits....were they hits to RF that he looked like he was trying to becuase of where it was pitched or was it accidental?
I have seen guys get a hit oppo and people say "great job, way to go the other way" but in reality he did pull his head, hips flew open, and he just got lucky.
Phillips is his best when he hits to RC. He gets into funks when he tries to hit a 3 run HR with only one guy on base. He swings outta his shoes a bit too often for what he should. Guys like him cannot get away with that type of hitting.
Who are the reds facing tonite?
SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 1:15pm
                            
                        
                                Vogelsong, 4-1 with a sub 2 ERA
                            
                        SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 1:17pm
                            
                        
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                        wrote:Now 33, Vogelsong hasn't started against the Reds since Sept. 24, 2004, with Pittsburgh. He faced just seven batters and was ripped for seven runs and four hits with three walks in a 14-8 loss.
Overall, Vogelsong is 2/3 with a 6.15 ERA in 11 games, including four starts, versus the Reds (33-31).
se-alum
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 1:17pm
                            
                        
                                The Reds are still leaving way too many guys on base.  Luckily, the SF offense is pitiful, so there's a bit more room for error in this series.
                            
                        Ironman92
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 3:18pm
                            
                        
                                Gomes had some woeful swings as usual like Phillips trying to hit the 3 run pull HR....but with 2 strikes......purposely went oppo.
My question is...if they can do it on one swing....but rarely ever hit the 3 run HR...wouldn't it be more productive to go oppo far more often....not just with 2 strikes
                        My question is...if they can do it on one swing....but rarely ever hit the 3 run HR...wouldn't it be more productive to go oppo far more often....not just with 2 strikes
jordo212000
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 3:31pm
                            
                        
                                Hopefully I survive for the entire game tonight. I fell asleep on the couch before the game even started last night
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                mhs95_06
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 3:42pm
                            
                        Those visions of sugar plums(HRs) must dance in their head, and must cause uncontrollably bad plate approaches in efforts to realize their visions! When the Reds played at Arizona in early April, their line-up was tough, with very good plate approaches. They got rid of some of their sugar plum vision guys and somehow must have convinced the others, with some of Gibson's high profile coaches being a part of it, to take those good plate approaches. The results of their season are pretty good so far with them near the lead in the NL west, even though they were picked to be pretty bad. There is a lot to be said for playing smart compared to wasting a lot of talent chasing visions of sugar plums. Those good plate approaches run up pitch counts and get you to the bullpens earlier!Ironman92;797843 wrote:Gomes had some woeful swings as usual like Phillips trying to hit the 3 run pull HR....but with 2 strikes......purposely went oppo.
My question is...if they can do it on one swing....but rarely ever hit the 3 run HR...wouldn't it be more productive to go oppo far more often....not just with 2 strikes
Ironman92
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 4:02pm
                            
                        
                                It's not important to get to a bullpen is it?
                            
                        Ironman92
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 4:02pm
                            
                        
                                Nice vbookie thread awaiting your bets.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                thavoice
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 4:07pm
                            
                        jordo212000;797856 wrote:Hopefully I survive for the entire game tonight. I fell asleep on the couch before the game even started last night
Pussy!
when Cueto was shaking hands after the 7th inning I went from the couch to bed. Turned on the game, and before the commecial break was over I fell asleep!!!
WIll have to check ou the vbookie page and see what they got cookin
                                        
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                                                                dave
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 5:11pm
                            
                        
                                reds will beat vogelschlong 
 
wood is due for a gem
                        wood is due for a gem
Heretic
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 5:14pm
                            
                        SportsAndLady;797699 wrote:Vogelsong, 4-1 with a sub 2 ERA
Dude made worthless look good when he was with the Pirates for a short time. His first fucking start with the Giants, he beats the Pirates. Please, just fucking kick his ass. I'm talking nine runs in 2+ innings shit that ends with someone rocketing a line drive right into his groin.
                                        
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                                                                dave
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 5:34pm
                            
                        
                                reds going with their whitest team possible
 
Drew Stubbs
Brandon Phillips
Joey Votto
Jay Bruce
Scott Rolen
Chris Heisey
Ryan Hanigan
Paul Janish
Travis Wood
                        Drew Stubbs
Brandon Phillips
Joey Votto
Jay Bruce
Scott Rolen
Chris Heisey
Ryan Hanigan
Paul Janish
Travis Wood
SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 5:37pm
                            
                        dave;798022 wrote:reds going with their whitest team possible
Drew Stubbs
Brandon Phillips
Joey Votto
Jay Bruce
Scott Rolen
Chris Heisey
Ryan Hanigan
Paul Janish
Travis Wood
HAHA
Poor Brandon Phillips, he must feel so left out.
Ironman92
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 5:49pm
                            
                        
                                Heisey with his token start every 2 weeks.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                zach24oz
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 5:53pm
                            
                        
                                I don't mind the lineup...not too bad IMO. How has Janish/Renteria been? Haven't been able to see many games this past week.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                dave
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 6:49pm
                            
                        
                                Renteria was out for a week, came back last night and looked pretty bad at the plate.
 
Janish got his first extra base hit in over a month but made a critical error in the loss to the Cubs.
 
 
Zack Cozart is hitting near .500 in AAA lately with something like a 15 game hitting streak but won't get a shot.
                        Janish got his first extra base hit in over a month but made a critical error in the loss to the Cubs.
Zack Cozart is hitting near .500 in AAA lately with something like a 15 game hitting streak but won't get a shot.
                                        
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                                                                dave
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 7:26pm
                            
                        
                                this has to be one of if not the best defensive lineups in baseball.  might be slightly better with Bronson on the mound.
                            
                        Ironman92
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 9:00pm
                            
                        
                                Earlier in the year Janish had an extra base hit in 4 consecutive games...the Reds went 2-2 in those games.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                dave
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 9:19pm
                            
                        
                                5.5 runs per game and that's just with a single extra base hit each game, all doubles.  Cozart has the ability to hit homers and doubles every time up.  Teams will be careful with him, he can draw walks, turn the lineup over.
                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 9:41pm
                            
                        dave;798196 wrote:5.5 runs per game and that's just with a single extra base hit each game, all doubles. Cozart has the ability to hit homers and doubles every time up. Teams will be careful with him, he can draw walks, turn the lineup over.
We have to face the facts, unless there is an injury to Renteria or Janish, we will not see Cozart until September, unfortunately.
Ironman92
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 9:48pm
                            
                        
                                If anything if he were to be brought up he could maybe be one of those guys who tears up the league until the league figures him out. Seems like one or two players a year do that.
I still don't care one way or the other...but I also don't think anyone in the minors is going to make much of any difference. My issues begin with Dusty and I believe he would use Cozart in a not great way.
                        I still don't care one way or the other...but I also don't think anyone in the minors is going to make much of any difference. My issues begin with Dusty and I believe he would use Cozart in a not great way.
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                                Jun 10, 2011 10:21pm
                            
                        
                                Phillips w/ another oppo base hit.
                            
                        Ironman92
                                                                            
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                                Jun 10, 2011 10:31pm
                            
                        
                                Wood getting hit hard....fortunately Cody Ross got greedy and Heisey three him out.