Finally, a guy who knows a little something about improper benefits speaks out...

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password
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Jun 8, 2011 9:56pm
I must apologize to "Big Gain", he is correct about Clarett. I searched with MSN search, not Google and found a post where they also claim that Clarett admitted to lying because he was pissed at Tressel and OSU. You have to scroll down toward the bottom of the page.

Big 10 Breaking News - Clarett admits to lying
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Big Gain
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Jun 8, 2011 10:04pm
More proof of the BIG HEAD and MOUTH that comes with the self-aggrandizement title of MODER-ATOR.

"moron" typical of an immature teenie.
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enigmaax
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Jun 8, 2011 10:04pm
Big Gain;795405 wrote:You read every word of all 270,000????? LIAR!

Another tard moment for you. I said, "I haven't come across a single one...". Did not say it didn't exist and did not quantify how many I had read. Geezus, I said in the beginning I wasn't disputing it.
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Big Gain
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Jun 8, 2011 10:12pm
LJ;795414 wrote:Nope, just think you are a moron
Nope, I have learned so much from you mr all mighty Big Worm, er Big Perm, er Big Lame, er Big Gain
More proof of the BIG HEAD and BIG UGLY MOUTH that comes from the self-aggrandizement of having MODER-ATOR above a turkey.

"moron"... Proof of being an immature teenie.
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Big Gain
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Jun 8, 2011 10:14pm
enigmaax;795427 wrote:Another tard moment for you. I said, "I haven't come across a single one...". Did not say it didn't exist and did not quantify how many I had read. Geezus, I said in the beginning I wasn't disputing it.
My bad.....then THANK YOU for support....just never had support come in that format before.
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karen lotz
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Jun 8, 2011 10:53pm
I feel bad for Big Gain.
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Jun 8, 2011 10:57pm
karen lotz;795480 wrote:I feel bad for Big Gain.

Who is more irrational, sleeper or big gain?
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Jun 8, 2011 11:02pm
thedynasty1998;795488 wrote:Who is more irrational, sleeper or big gain?


There is no way sleeper believes 90% of the shit he says, if he indeed did graduate from OSU. I really think Big Gain actually thinks he is making valid points and has a clue.
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Jun 8, 2011 11:03pm
thedynasty1998;795488 wrote:Who is more irrational, sleeper or big gain?

I think Big Gain as he is 100% serious, and I feel that sleeper says some things just to get a reaction and keep with his online persona. I could be wrong though.
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WebFire
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Jun 8, 2011 11:17pm
I think I know what Big Gain is trying to say. From his posts, he seems to be saying that MC is a big liar. But he believes him now because he lied earlier. Or something like that.
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ksig489
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Jun 9, 2011 9:49am
sleeper;795067 wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6640219



Suck on that haters.



OK...unless you are completely OSU biased and wearing scarlet and gray colored glasses...this is an awful statement for OSU. He flat out says that the coaches and university have no control over their players (that is the backbone of a LOIC penalty). He also implies that this was going on when he was in school as well...thus making this an issue for at least 9-10 years...meaning stiffer punishments due to long term corruption. If the NCAA decides to look back that far, USC may not be the only one forfeiting a national title.

Regardless of secret regime or not...you can still get hit with LOIC.
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Jun 9, 2011 9:57am
ksig489;795826 wrote:OK...unless you are completely OSU biased and wearing scarlet and gray colored glasses...this is an awful statement for OSU. He flat out says that the coaches and university have no control over their players (that is the backbone of a LOIC penalty). He also implies that this was going on when he was in school as well...thus making this an issue for at least 9-10 years...meaning stiffer punishments due to long term corruption. If the NCAA decides to look back that far, USC may not be the only one forfeiting a national title.

Regardless of secret regime or not...you can still get hit with LOIC.


The NCAA will face a lawsuit if they look back further than their 4 year statute of limitations.

Also, the BCS took away the NC, not the NCAA
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WebFire
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Jun 9, 2011 9:59am
LJ;795841 wrote:The NCAA will face a lawsuit if they look back further than their 4 year statute of limitations.
That's not true. There are exceptions to the 4 year statute of limitations.
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fan_from_texas
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Jun 9, 2011 10:01am
LJ;795841 wrote:The NCAA will face a lawsuit if they look back further than their 4 year statute of limitations.
Why do you think that? I would assume that they can look back at whatever they want, as long as they're not directly punishing for those actions, which is a pretty wishy-washy way of saying that they can probably consider them and indirectly punish for them.
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Jun 9, 2011 10:04am
WebFire;795844 wrote:That's not true. There are exceptions to the 4 year statute of limitations.

If the school is only found to have known about the current issues with Pryor, there are no current athletes >4 years and no one is found to be a booster in the 4 year range, none of them apply.
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Jun 9, 2011 10:05am
fan_from_texas;795849 wrote:Why do you think that? I would assume that they can look back at whatever they want, as long as they're not directly punishing for those actions, which is a pretty wishy-washy way of saying that they can probably consider them and indirectly punish for them.

It's directly in their bylaws. The contract between the schools and the NCAA.
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WebFire
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Jun 9, 2011 10:43am
LJ;795851 wrote:If the school is only found to have known about the current issues with Pryor, there are no current athletes >4 years and no one is found to be a booster in the 4 year range, none of them apply.
Here is the rule. I'm not saying this will apply, but it certainly could if they were able to determine stuff was going on prior to Pryor and Co.
NCAA rule 32.6.3 Statute of Limitations: Allegations included in a notice of allegations shall be limited to possible violations occurring not earlier than four years before the date the notice of inquiry is forwarded to the institution or the date the institution notifies (or, if earlier, should have notified) the enforcement staff of its inquiries into the matter. However, the following shall not be subject to the four-year limitation:

(a) Allegations involving violations affecting the eligibility of a current student-athlete;

(b) Allegations in a case in which information is developed to indicate a pattern of willful violations on the part of the institution or individual involved, which began before but continued into the four-year period; and

(c) Allegations that indicate a blatant disregard for the Association’s fundamental recruiting, extra-benefit, academic or ethical-conduct regulations or that involve an effort to conceal the occurrence of the violation. In such cases, the enforcement staff shall have a one-year period after the date information concerning the matter becomes available to the NCAA to investigate and submit to the institution a notice of allegations concerning the matter.
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Jun 9, 2011 10:47am
WebFire;795890 wrote:Here is the rule. I'm not saying this will apply, but it certainly could if they were able to determine stuff was going on prior to Pryor and Co.

Like I explained, that means that the school had to know about it for the whole time, or that they had to be involved in it.
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WebFire
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Jun 9, 2011 10:51am
LJ;795895 wrote:Like I explained, that means that the school had to know about it for the whole time, or that they had to be involved in it.

Yes, I know that. I just wanted to clarify that you can't throw out the 4-year statute and think you are safe.
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Jun 9, 2011 11:08am
Big Gain;795327 wrote:Clarrett took a 500 handshake after the bowl game. Clarrett lied about what was stolen from his car after the bowl game. Be specific about what NCAA rules Clarret was found to have broken before the bowl game.

didnt ohio state win the fiesta bowl in jan 2003? according to this article violations dated back to 2002 . if you want specifics ask geiger. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/football/ncaa/09/10/bc.fbc.ohiost.clarett.ap/index.html
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Jun 9, 2011 11:16am
WebFire;795901 wrote:Yes, I know that. I just wanted to clarify that you can't throw out the 4-year statute and think you are safe.

thanks for clarifying
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WebFire
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Jun 9, 2011 11:33am
DeyDurkie5;795924 wrote:thanks for clarifying

Pretend you know, but I see it thrown around so much. Not many understand that there are exceptions.
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Jun 9, 2011 11:42am
WebFire;795947 wrote:Pretend you know, but I see it thrown around so much. Not many understand that there are exceptions.

thanks for clarifying
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WebFire
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Jun 9, 2011 1:08pm
DeyDurkie5;795958 wrote:thanks for clarifying

You're welcome.
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Jun 9, 2011 1:27pm
LJ;795414 wrote:Nope, I have learned so much from you mr all mighty Big Worm, er Big Perm, er Big Lame, er Big Gain