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Jun 23, 2011 11:58 AM
Automatik;811125 wrote:A little off topic, but I read an article yesterday about EPL players who have "earned an upgrade" to bigger clubs. Dempsey was on there and it mentioned he's being watched by AC Milan. I'm really happy for him....well deserved, BUT...I don't want him in the Serie A. He's got the swagger to play in England and I hope he stays. Of course I'll be happy for him if he goes to any big club....but PLEASE don't go to Italy.

Yeah, I dont want him in Italy. I dont want any American in Italy. I just dont think the style fits Americans well at all. Frankly, I think it only fits Italians and Zlatan well lol. Id love for him to go to someone who can compete for a CL berth though. Valencia, Villareal, Man City, Aston Villa, etc on the smaller scale of upgrades.
Jun 23, 2011 11:58am
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Jun 23, 2011 12:09 PM
Laley23;811139 wrote:Yeah, I dont want him in Italy. I dont want any American in Italy. I just dont think the style fits Americans well at all. Frankly, I think it only fits Italians and Zlatan well lol. Id love for him to go to someone who can compete for a CL berth though. Valencia, Villareal, Man City, Aston Villa, etc on the smaller scale of upgrades.

It might be boring, but it is a winning style.
Jun 23, 2011 12:09pm
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Jun 23, 2011 12:12 PM
like_that;811152 wrote:It might be boring, but it is a winning style.

I never said it wasnt. Just that it doesnt suit many players outside of Italy. Dempsey over there, imo, would hurt his play for the USMNT because the styles are so contrasting.
Jun 23, 2011 12:12pm
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Jun 23, 2011 12:22 PM
Laley23;811156 wrote:I never said it wasnt. Just that it doesnt suit many players outside of Italy. Dempsey over there, imo, would hurt his play for the USMNT because the styles are so contrasting.

Yeah his game would definitely be constrained if he placed for AC. The majority of the time Fulham runs their attack through him and he decides when and when not to push forward. That won't happen in Italy.

I think Man City would be a nice fit, but are they stocked in the mid field?
Jun 23, 2011 12:22pm
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Jun 23, 2011 1:49 PM
Laley23;811156 wrote:I never said it wasnt. Just that it doesnt suit many players outside of Italy. Dempsey over there, imo, would hurt his play for the USMNT because the styles are so contrasting.

I agree, I just had to defend Italian soccer.
Jun 23, 2011 1:49pm
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Jun 24, 2011 1:28 AM
Aston Villa has a role vacated by Ashley Young that would look quite good for a one Clint Dempsey.
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I also don't think the United States can really play any other way than sitting back and hitting people on the counter.
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HOW ABOUT THAT DUDE FREDDIE ADU!?!?
Jun 24, 2011 1:28am
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Jun 24, 2011 9:19 AM
Sage;812413 wrote:Aston Villa has a role vacated by Ashley Young
:( :( :(

Say it aint so, Ashley
Jun 24, 2011 9:19am
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Jun 24, 2011 9:19 PM
Totally unexpected poll results on ESPN.com right now:

"What are you most interested in this weekend?"

71,000 votes
Gold Cup final (US vs. Mexico): 38%
MLB interleague play: 25%
College World Series: 17%
Wimbledon: 14%
NASCAR Sprint Cup at Sonoma: 6%

Tell me again why the USSF can't get this tournament on a legitimate channel? ESPN, ESPN2, something that MOST people get.
Jun 24, 2011 9:19pm
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Jun 25, 2011 11:28 AM
If they're trying to get soccer become a popular sport in this country, they're really fucking it up big time here
Jun 25, 2011 11:28am
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Jun 25, 2011 1:18 PM
Somehow, the Spanish television channels own the rights to the Gold Cup, and FOX Soccer gets licensing for the US games. After doing a bit of looking, my guess is that Univision bids an insane amount for the rights, as Spanish rights for the World Cup cost more than the English rights in America. From there, Univision does not like to license all the games to FOX Soccer, as it would take away from their audience, so we can only get US rights. I don't know if the USSF can actually do anything about this besides telling ESPN or FOX to bid more.
Jun 25, 2011 1:18pm
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Jun 25, 2011 1:25 PM
NilesPacMan;813553 wrote:Somehow, the Spanish television channels own the rights to the Gold Cup, and FOX Soccer gets licensing for the US games. After doing a bit of looking, my guess is that Univision bids an insane amount for the rights, as Spanish rights for the World Cup cost more than the English rights in America. From there, Univision does not like to license all the games to FOX Soccer, as it would take away from their audience, so we can only get US rights. I don't know if the USSF can actually do anything about this besides telling ESPN or FOX to bid more.

I don't really care about the other games with the Gold Cup, but the USSF could at least find a way to get the U.S. games on a network that everyone can watch.
Jun 25, 2011 1:25pm
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Jun 25, 2011 1:32 PM
USSF cannot do anything about the television rights; CONCACAF sells them to the highest bidder, and right now, that's currently Univision. Until ESPN or FOX puts up a larger bid to gain full control of the rights, the final and other US games will be buried on lesser television channels.
Jun 25, 2011 1:32pm
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Jun 25, 2011 3:47 PM
But Fox has the rights don't they? I've been watching the Gold Cup on the Fox Soccer channel.
Jun 25, 2011 3:47pm
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Jun 25, 2011 5:32 PM
hoops23;813596 wrote:But Fox has the rights don't they? I've been watching the Gold Cup on the Fox Soccer channel.

No. Only to the USA games, and only FSC (Univision wont sell it to ESPN or Fox/FX/etc...only will allow the sale of USA games to FSC). Basically, they make money off the USA games because they charge more to Fox to pick up the games then they would make on Univision...but they only allow it on FSC, so Fox cant make much off of advertising.

Basically, Univision is fucking us, but at the same time...our guys need to step it up and outbid the fuckers. Then dont allow the televising of any Mexico games lol.
Jun 25, 2011 5:32pm
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Jun 25, 2011 5:38 PM
hoops23;813596 wrote:But Fox has the rights don't they? I've been watching the Gold Cup on the Fox Soccer channel.

No. Only to the USA games, and only FSC (Univision wont sell it to ESPN or Fox/FX/etc...only will allow the sale of USA games to FSC). Basically, they make money off the USA games because they charge more to Fox to pick up the games then they would make on Univision...but they only allow it on FSC, so Fox cant make much off of advertising.

Basically, Univision is fucking us, but at the same time...our guys need to step it up and outbid the fuckers. Then dont allow the televising of any Mexico games lol.
Jun 25, 2011 5:38pm
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Jun 25, 2011 8:40 PM
I have the channel and I'm getting ready for this one. Just announced Adu starting.
Jun 25, 2011 8:40pm
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Jun 25, 2011 8:40 PM
Freddy Adu gets the start. Much deserved, imo.
Jun 25, 2011 8:40pm
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Jun 25, 2011 8:42 PM
wheres this streaming at
Jun 25, 2011 8:42pm
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Jun 25, 2011 8:45 PM
Line-up for USA:

---------------------Howard------------------------

Bocanegra---Goodson---Lichaj---Cherundolo
------------Jones----------------------------------
----------------------------Bradley---------------

---Adu-----------Bedoya--------Donovan------

-------------------Dempsey---------------------


No clue on the formation, but this is what Id like to see, out of this line-up.

Welp, switch Dempsey and Donovan it sounds like. Oh well.
Jun 25, 2011 8:45pm
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Jun 25, 2011 8:48 PM
Hb31187;813817 wrote:wheres this streaming at

I was able to find a stream (2 english and 1 spanish) on ATDHE the other night. The spanish was in HD, so I went with that since I didnt need to listen (It was the Mexico/Honduras game).
Jun 25, 2011 8:48pm
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Jun 25, 2011 8:49 PM
alright, ill try there
Jun 25, 2011 8:49pm
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Jun 25, 2011 8:52 PM
Can't wait. Pretty excited for this one. Adu starting makes it even more interesting.
Jun 25, 2011 8:52pm
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Jun 25, 2011 8:54 PM
hoops23;813822 wrote:Can't wait. Pretty excited for this one. Adu starting makes it even more interesting.

Hopefully he plays the same way. He can be our best player when/if he does. By that I mean, knowing when to pass, hold, dribble, etc. He really made no mistakes in the 25 minutes he played and made a bunch of great plays.
Jun 25, 2011 8:54pm
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Jun 25, 2011 8:56 PM
Thatll work for now, hopefully ill find a english one once the game starts
Jun 25, 2011 8:56pm