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Jun 8, 2011 12:21 PM
I like it. Add a little drama to the game and make baseball less boring
Jun 8, 2011 12:21pm
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Jun 8, 2011 12:21 PM
se-alum;794565 wrote:Lol....it's a game for christs sake...nobody's livelihood should be purposefully at risk over a game.

Oh please. Sports are violent. Their livelihood is the sport. They all know the risks and the rules by this point. Nobody is making them choose this career path.

And lets be clear, games are what you play on your kitchen table or XBOX, this is big-time sports.
Jun 8, 2011 12:21pm
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Jun 8, 2011 12:33 PM
LOL @ you trying to justify head hunting. It's baseball. Baseball isn't a fucking violent sport.
Jun 8, 2011 12:33pm
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Jun 8, 2011 12:35 PM
BCBulldog, you're completely insane and being ridiculous.

To try to justify throwing a baseball at 90mph at someones head is just idiotic.

Was what Bryce did childish? Yes.

Does it justify throwing at his head? Hell no.

To me it doesn't seem as if Bryce started this but rather because of the throwing at his knees yesterday, and the pitcher talking as he rounded the bases it was an immature response.

Baseball picthers are prima donna's. No reason to get all bitchy about someone hitting a hr off you. It's one of the reasons I don't watch baseball on TV.

I can't tell you what I hate more, throwing intentionally at batters because they hit a HR... or baseball fights. Actually I hate all sports fighting in general (unless the sport is actually fighting like Boxing or UFC). But if kids can manage to play competitive sports without fighting than I think adults should be held to that same standard.
Jun 8, 2011 12:35pm
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Jun 8, 2011 12:35 PM
Throwing at someones body or brushing them back is part of the game. Isnt it an unwritten rule (the rules you seem to be so fond of) that you dont throw at someones head
Jun 8, 2011 12:35pm
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Jun 8, 2011 1:03 PM
GoChiefs;794593 wrote:LOL @ you trying to justify head hunting. It's baseball. Baseball isn't a fucking violent sport.

Tell that to Tony Conigliaro, Jason Kendall, Dickie Thon, Steve Yeager, Buster Posey and on and on and on...
Fly4Fun;794600 wrote:BCBulldog, you're completely insane and being ridiculous.

To try to justify throwing a baseball at 90mph at someones head is just idiotic.

Was what Bryce did childish? Yes.

Does it justify throwing at his head? Hell no.

To me it doesn't seem as if Bryce started this but rather because of the throwing at his knees yesterday, and the pitcher talking as he rounded the bases it was an immature response.

Baseball picthers are prima donna's. No reason to get all bitchy about someone hitting a hr off you. It's one of the reasons I don't watch baseball on TV.

I can't tell you what I hate more, throwing intentionally at batters because they hit a HR... or baseball fights. Actually I hate all sports fighting in general (unless the sport is actually fighting like Boxing or UFC). But if kids can manage to play competitive sports without fighting than I think adults should be held to that same standard.

Sorry if you don't like the realities of the game. You can always look forward to the Little League World Series, I guess.
Hb31187;794601 wrote:Throwing at someones body or brushing them back is part of the game. Isnt it an unwritten rule (the rules you seem to be so fond of) that you dont throw at someones head

Actually beanballs are part of the game and have been for a long time. Hell, they even have a rule about throwing at batters. 8.02(d) to be exact. Sure, it forbids it, but a pitcher might not even be removed from the game for throwing at a batter even if it is a beanball.
Jun 8, 2011 1:03pm
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Jun 8, 2011 1:17 PM
Throw one 90 mph in their rib cage........that will get the point and it will be over........thow 90 mph at their heaad and things are just going to escalate into unnecessary things.
Jun 8, 2011 1:17pm
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Jun 8, 2011 1:19 PM
Bcs, I acknowledged that bean balls were part of the game. But 99/100 times the pitcher throws at the body like theyre supposed to...they dont go head hunting for retaliation
Jun 8, 2011 1:19pm
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Jun 8, 2011 1:24 PM
Hb31187;794672 wrote:Bcs, I acknowledged that bean balls were part of the game. But 99/100 times the pitcher throws at the body like theyre supposed to...they dont go head hunting for retaliation

Right, because 99/100 it is in retaliation to a HR or to trash talk. Showing up a pitcher on a homerun trot with a blown kiss is the 1/100.
Jun 8, 2011 1:24pm
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Jun 8, 2011 1:27 PM
You're completely irrational, but oh well guess nobody's gonna change your crazy opinion.

Getting shown up means you should intentionally try to threaten the other persons life, and livelihood. Makes complete sense.
Jun 8, 2011 1:27pm
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Jun 8, 2011 1:29 PM
not to mention, you throw at someones head, your teammate is gonna get one in the head as well.

if its at the ribcage, it will be done and over with.
Jun 8, 2011 1:29pm
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Jun 8, 2011 1:32 PM
Hb31187;794690 wrote:You're completely irrational, but oh well guess nobody's gonna change your crazy opinion.

Getting shown up means you should intentionally try to threaten the other persons life, and livelihood. Makes complete sense.

I didn't say that you have to like it or even justify it. I'm just telling you how these things work. Let's face it. With all the armor that hitters wear up there, it is a wonder we don't see more beanballs. Brushbacks are just an easy base when its bouncing off a piece of ABS wrapped around the batter's elbow. There's nearly no intimidation factor there.
Jun 8, 2011 1:32pm
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Jun 8, 2011 1:41 PM
step 1.....player gets hit in the knee and has to leave game
step 2.....player redeems himself with an I'll show you HR
step 3.....player retaliates by going a little too slow around the bases
step 4.....pitcher glares at player for a base and a half
step 5.....player retaliates the glare by giving an air kiss
step 6.....players gets brushed back

Now that is 6 steps and nothing got solved....pitcher still pissed and batter still not satisfied with the pitcher

How about:

step 1....player gets hit in the knee and has to leave game
step 2...player hits HR and jogs around the bases normal


Everybody is happy or satisfied with how things went
Jun 8, 2011 1:41pm
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Jun 8, 2011 1:46 PM
Laley23;794698 wrote:not to mention, you throw at someones head, your teammate is gonna get one in the head as well.

if its at the ribcage, it will be done and over with.

Let me try to explain further. A ribcage shot would probably end up as an elbow shot. With the body armor the batters wear, it probably would not have set off a brawl and it would not have ended the situation. It would have escalated it, if anything, and would have likely ended up in a beanball and a brawl anyway. That's why I say that if Harper wanted to respond to the pitcher, he should have went out to the mound and set off the brawl. That would have ended it. But he didn't, he blew a kiss that showed up the pitcher. At this point, the pitcher either has to take the insult (not happening) or earhole the next guy or Harper in his next at bat to set off the brawl that should have occurred during the HR trot.
Jun 8, 2011 1:46pm
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Jun 8, 2011 1:49 PM
Ironman92;794736 wrote:step 1.....player gets hit in the knee and has to leave game
step 2.....player redeems himself with an I'll show you HR
step 3.....player retaliates by going a little too slow around the bases
step 4.....pitcher glares at player for a base and a half
step 5.....player retaliates the glare by giving an air kiss
step 6.....players gets brushed back

Now that is 6 steps and nothing got solved....pitcher still pissed and batter still not satisfied with the pitcher

How about:

step 1....player gets hit in the knee and has to leave game
step 2...player hits HR and jogs around the bases normal


Everybody is happy or satisfied with how things went

That's the way the game should be played. Harper is lucky that step 6 is all that has happened so far. I expect there to be at least two more steps. A beanball and a brawl. If he had made step 5 an approach to the pitcher's mound, it would already be over.
Jun 8, 2011 1:49pm
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Jun 8, 2011 2:13 PM
BCBulldog;794558 wrote:If you don't understand the unwritten rules of baseball, then you should GTFO. That is what this entire incident revolves around. Like them or not, they are what they are.



Actually, you are dead wrong. It has been a part of baseball for decades upon decades. Maybe you should follow T-ball if you don't like the realities of baseball.



Just expect to take one in your ear if you do that.

the pitcher said something, batter responded. By your logic the pitcher should just attack the batter, wait, that's not an unwritten rule, only a batter can attack. Pitcher was pissed he was taken yard, he should have kept his mouth shut and tried to get the next batter out. Instead he says something to a batter who already made him look stupid. Pitcher is the one who should not have said anything.
Jun 8, 2011 2:13pm
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Jun 8, 2011 2:50 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;794819 wrote:the pitcher said something, batter responded.
But his response was inappropriate to the circumstance. I see no problem with a response, if it is appropriate. Harper's response backed the pitcher into a corner.
Raw Dawgin' it;794819 wrote:By your logic the pitcher should just attack the batter, wait, that's not an unwritten rule, only a batter can attack.
Yes, the pitcher should attack Harper. However, it is not appropriate for the pitcher to physically approach a baserunner. It is appropriate to throw at him, throw at his teammate or even call him out.
Raw Dawgin' it;794819 wrote:Pitcher was pissed he was taken yard, he should have kept his mouth shut and tried to get the next batter out. Instead he says something to a batter who already made him look stupid. Pitcher is the one who should not have said anything.

I agree unless the pitcher feels that Harper's HR trot was meant to mock him. Then he has the right to say something.

Guys, I understand that all of this may seem strange, trivial or even downright silly, but that is how the game is played.
Jun 8, 2011 2:50pm
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Jun 8, 2011 2:59 PM
BCBulldog;794923 wrote:But his response was inappropriate to the circumstance. I see no problem with a response, if it is appropriate. Harper's response backed the pitcher into a corner.



Yes, the pitcher should attack Harper. However, it is not appropriate for the pitcher to physically approach a baserunner. It is appropriate to throw at him, throw at his teammate or even call him out.



I agree unless the pitcher feels that Harper's HR trot was meant to mock him. Then he has the right to say something.

Guys, I understand that all of this may seem strange, trivial or even downright silly, but that is how the game is played.

I can't find a face palm picture big enough....
Jun 8, 2011 2:59pm
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Jun 8, 2011 4:04 PM
This whole thing has been hilariously blown out of proportions. You have an 18-19 year old dude in A ball who isn't Cap'n Maturity yet showing up a pitcher who seems to have yapped at him previously. Which caused Yahoo to have a blog or something about him becoming the LeBron ("villain") of baseball and people here talking about beaning him.

The only reason anyone remotely cares about this is because the player involved is a number one draft pick with a "can't miss superstar" pedigree. So it gets blown out of proportion.
Jun 8, 2011 4:04pm
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Jun 8, 2011 4:34 PM
media baby!....you get way more of this than the Rangers drafting a kid who was paralyzed
Jun 8, 2011 4:34pm
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Jun 8, 2011 6:58 PM
Kid can do whatever he wants if he continues to play like he has.
Jun 8, 2011 6:58pm
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Jun 8, 2011 9:10 PM
All these unwritten rules are why baseball sucks anyways. Imagine watching the NBA finals tomorrow and the benches could throw baseballs at the opposing players every time one of them yelled, chest bumped, or pointed? Everyone would be dead within minutes.
BCBulldog;794751 wrote: That's why I say that if Harper wanted to respond to the pitcher, he should have went out to the mound and set off the brawl. That would have ended it. But he didn't, he blew a kiss that showed up the pitcher.

Did you ever think that maybe he didn't want the consequences of starting a brawl? That's usually a few game suspension, right? It's Class A baseball. No one cares. And you tell us to wait for the Little League World Series as an insult? Don't worry, I will. Anything that gets me out of watching these women and their egos.
Jun 8, 2011 9:10pm
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Jun 8, 2011 9:25 PM
He should've taken the bat to the mound and jammed it up the pitchers ass. According to bcb that's a suitable response for being thrown at.
Jun 8, 2011 9:25pm
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Jun 8, 2011 9:34 PM
friendfromlowry;795365 wrote:All these unwritten rules are why baseball sucks anyways. Imagine watching the NBA finals tomorrow and the benches could throw baseballs at the opposing players every time one of them yelled, chest bumped, or pointed? Everyone would be dead within minutes.
Which is why I think the NBA sucks. They can't even police themselves like baseball does without killing each other.
friendfromlowry;795365 wrote:Did you ever think that maybe he didn't want the consequences of starting a brawl? That's usually a few game suspension, right? It's Class A baseball. No one cares.
You don't want the consequences, then don't act like a douchebag.
There's an awful lot of national attention for "No one cares."
friendfromlowry;795365 wrote:And you tell us to wait for the Little League World Series as an insult? Don't worry, I will. Anything that gets me out of watching these women and their egos.

I didn't say it as an insult toward the Little Leaguers. I love the Little League World Series. But I love big boy baseball, too. Warts and all.
I guess you could watch the NBA, NHL, NFL, NASCAR, MMA, golf, tennis or college sports if you don't want to deal with athletes who have big egos...let me know how that works out for you.
Jun 8, 2011 9:34pm
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Jun 8, 2011 9:38 PM
j_crazy;795378 wrote:He should've taken the bat to the mound and jammed it up the pitchers ass. According to bcb that's a suitable response for being thrown at.

Yep. That's precisely what I said. If you don't like the way things work, fine. I'm just telling you how it is.
Jun 8, 2011 9:38pm