THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Jun 1, 2011 6:44pm
Great player. I will miss his antics.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jun 1, 2011 6:49pm
Great player. One of my all time favorites.
Who inducts him when he makes it to the HOF? Dale Brown? Kobe? Phil? Penny?
Who inducts him when he makes it to the HOF? Dale Brown? Kobe? Phil? Penny?
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Jun 1, 2011 6:51pm
Wish him and Penny could have stayed healthy and in Orlando. Should have been the next dynasty after the Bulls.
gorocks99
Posts: 10,760
Jun 1, 2011 6:51pm
sportswizuhrd;787973 wrote:Great player. One of my all time favorites.
Who inducts him when he makes it to the HOF? Dale Brown? Kobe? Phil? Penny?
Paul M. Glaser
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jun 1, 2011 6:57pm
He may as well have retired this year. Dude should be under arrest for theft. He didn't do anything for the Celtics this past year
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 1, 2011 10:26pm
take out physically, most dominant periodkiller_ewok;787810 wrote:Most physically dominant Center to ever play the game IMO.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 1, 2011 10:28pm
Skyhook79;787892 wrote:Those are impressive numbers except when you compare them to what Wilt Chamberlain (most dominant center ever imo) did from 59-71 seasons: 33.0 ppg 23.6 rpg 4.5 apg they didn't keep track of blocks back then but i would imagine he had a lot.
Wilt was playing against guys who would be small forwards today lol, what Shaq did was more impressive. Didn't they have to widen the lane because of him?
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 1, 2011 10:47pm
robj55;788187 wrote:Wilt was playing against guys who would be small forwards today lol, what Shaq did was more impressive. Didn't they have to widen the lane because of him?
and add a zone defense.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 2, 2011 12:06am
Laley23;788209 wrote:and add a zone defense.
thank you
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 2, 2011 12:12am
robj55;788261 wrote:thank you
and I believe the defensive 3 was for him as well. He was just sitting in the lane blocking shots and clogging the offense lol. Made the rule for his offense and then the counter rule to his defense.
imex99
Posts: 4,927
Jun 2, 2011 12:47am
Laley23;787811 wrote:For those who havent ever seen him in his REALLY younger days. This was what he was doing in HS and college:
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Sick video
Swyped from my HTC Evo with Eternal Prophecy 6.0 ROM.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Jun 2, 2011 8:17am
robj55;788187 wrote:Wilt was playing against guys who would be small forwards today lol, what Shaq did was more impressive. Didn't they have to widen the lane because of him?
Dikembe Mutumbo,Rik Smits,Todd McCullah,DaSagana Diop the 4 Centers that Shaq had to play against for his Titles.
Any of them better than Bill Russell? Willis Reed? Kareem Jabbar? Walt Bellamy? Nate Thurmond? Bob Lanier?
Wilt was a better athlete than Shaq in his prime. If they had espn type 24/7 coverage back when Wilt played in his prime you would change your tune.
Not only did he play basketball at Kansas he ran Track and field won the Conference High Jumping Championship 3 years in a row, threw the shot put 56 feet, Tripled jumped over 50 feet and ran a 10.9 sec 100 yd dash and had a 50 inch vertical.
If Shaq was so dominant why didn't he EVER lead the League in rebounding?? assists?? Wilt did it 11 times and led the league in assists, the only center to ever do that.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jun 2, 2011 8:26am
Skyhook79;788383 wrote:Dikembe Mutumbo,Rik Smits,Todd McCullah,DaSagana Diop the 4 Centers that Shaq had to play against for his Titles.
Any of them better than Bill Russell? Willis Reed? Kareem Jabbar? Walt Bellamy? Nate Thurmond? Bob Lanier?
Wilt was a better athlete than Shaq in his prime. If they had espn type 24/7 coverage back when Wilt played in his prime you would change your tune.
Not only did he play basketball at Kansas he ran Track and field won the Conference High Jumping Championship 3 years in a row, threw the shot put 56 feet, Tripled jumped over 50 feet and ran a 10.9 sec 100 yd dash and had a 50 inch vertical.
If Shaq was so dominant why didn't he EVER lead the League in rebounding?? assists?? Wilt did it 11 times and led the league in assists, the only center to ever do that.
Aww, how sweet.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 2, 2011 9:22am
Skyhook79;788383 wrote:Dikembe Mutumbo,Rik Smits,Todd McCullah,DaSagana Diop the 4 Centers that Shaq had to play against for his Titles.
Any of them better than Bill Russell? Willis Reed? Kareem Jabbar? Walt Bellamy? Nate Thurmond? Bob Lanier?
Wilt was a better athlete than Shaq in his prime. If they had espn type 24/7 coverage back when Wilt played in his prime you would change your tune.
Not only did he play basketball at Kansas he ran Track and field won the Conference High Jumping Championship 3 years in a row, threw the shot put 56 feet, Tripled jumped over 50 feet and ran a 10.9 sec 100 yd dash and had a 50 inch vertical.
If Shaq was so dominant why didn't he EVER lead the League in rebounding?? assists?? Wilt did it 11 times and led the league in assists, the only center to ever do that.
The fact that a center led the league in assists pretty much strengthens our argument.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Jun 2, 2011 9:39am
SportsAndLady;788425 wrote:The fact that a center led the league in assists pretty much strengthens our argument.
Yeah right except he also led the league in rebounding that year (24.0) and averaged 25 ppg that year.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jun 2, 2011 9:53am
No one can really discount what Wilt did. His numbers are Ruthesque in the history of the game.
If you watch some of those old games on eSPNClassic you will see the centers of old didnt really have to go against guys hanging all over you. The centers got the ball in the post and didnt have the defender leaning up against them. They werent all over them defensively.
Shaq was dominant...no doubt about that. They played in different era's so it wil be hard to guage.....but Ya gotta give it to Wilt by his shear n umbers.
If you watch some of those old games on eSPNClassic you will see the centers of old didnt really have to go against guys hanging all over you. The centers got the ball in the post and didnt have the defender leaning up against them. They werent all over them defensively.
Shaq was dominant...no doubt about that. They played in different era's so it wil be hard to guage.....but Ya gotta give it to Wilt by his shear n umbers.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jun 2, 2011 10:06am
Skyhook79;788440 wrote:Yeah right except he also led the league in rebounding that year (24.0) and averaged 25 ppg that year.
You think wilt would average those numbers in todays game?
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jun 2, 2011 10:30am
My favorite basketball player is better than your favorite basketball player!
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jun 2, 2011 10:51am
sportswizuhrd;787973 wrote:Great player. One of my all time favorites.
Who inducts him when he makes it to the HOF? Dale Brown? Kobe? Phil? Penny?
Nick Nolte.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jun 2, 2011 10:54am
justincredible;788476 wrote:My favorite basketball player is better than your favorite basketball player!
So Wildcats is better than Dynasty?
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jun 2, 2011 11:13am
LJ;788491 wrote:So Wildcats is better than Dynasty?
My favorite basketball player is Chris Mullin.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jun 2, 2011 12:40pm
They had to change the damn rules Shaq was so dominant, thats saying something. If Shaq was back in those days playing against SF sized big men(and a league that allowed MUCH more physical play so he would stay out of foul trouble)...his numbers would of been out of this world.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 2, 2011 1:39pm
50 inch vertical? get real lol
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Jun 2, 2011 2:08pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Wilt_Chamberlainrobj55;788641 wrote:50 inch vertical? get real lol
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Jun 2, 2011 2:19pm
I agree with skyhook. Yes, the majority of his opponents were smaller to him than those to Shaq......but the stats combined with his other athletic abilities are unmatchable. Those collegiate track numbers are silly for a guy of his size.