Should athletes be given a stipend while in college?

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Mr. 300

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May 31, 2011 3:20 PM
Have had this discussion with a few people. If athletes were paid a small amount of what these colleges are making off of them, would this eliminate what has happened at OSU and oher schools?
May 31, 2011 3:20pm
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queencitybuckeye

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May 31, 2011 3:22 PM
Mr. 300;786528 wrote:If athletes were paid a small amount of what these colleges are making off of them, would this eliminate what has happened at OSU and oher schools?

Short answer: no
Longer answer: noooooooooo
May 31, 2011 3:22pm
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May 31, 2011 3:23 PM
queencitybuckeye;786534 wrote:Short answer: no
Longer answer: noooooooooo

Precisely.
May 31, 2011 3:23pm
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May 31, 2011 3:26 PM
What is the point of amateur athletics? Don't all D1 athletes get a stipend now? I had some college roommates who were on the hockey team and I'm pretty sure they got a stipend for living expenses. How is that different than paying players?
May 31, 2011 3:26pm
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May 31, 2011 3:30 PM
No.
May 31, 2011 3:30pm
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Al Bundy

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May 31, 2011 3:31 PM
FatHobbit;786537 wrote:What is the point of amateur athletics? Don't all D1 athletes get a stipend now? I had some college roommates who were on the hockey team and I'm pretty sure they got a stipend for living expenses. How is that different than paying players?

They already get a stipend for living expenses, free tuition, free room and board, priority registration, access to tutoring in any subject that they want for free, excellent medical care. I would say they do alright for their 20 hours a week for playing a game.
May 31, 2011 3:31pm
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vball10set

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May 31, 2011 3:32 PM
if you pay the star QB, you have to pay the gymnasts, the tennis players, etc.--so the answer is no
May 31, 2011 3:32pm
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May 31, 2011 3:32 PM
Al Bundy;786540 wrote:They already get a stipend for living expenses, free tuition, free room and board, priority registration, access to tutoring in any subject that they want for free, excellent medical care. I would say they do alright for their 20 hours a week for playing a game.

They already get money. I guess the argument is should they get more?
May 31, 2011 3:32pm
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May 31, 2011 3:33 PM
Al Bundy;786540 wrote:They already get a stipend for living expenses, free tuition, free room and board, priority registration, access to tutoring in any subject that they want for free, excellent medical care. I would say they do alright for their 20 hours a week for playing a game.

Plus each of them can get a college loan for living expenses if they don't have enough money, no?

Let's be honest though, they're blowing cash on tats, alcohol, marijuana, and girls like a lot of college kids. The difference is most college kids have loans for their food, housing, and education too, so I have no pity for "poor" college athletes.
May 31, 2011 3:33pm
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May 31, 2011 3:33 PM
No just tats and cheaper cars.
May 31, 2011 3:33pm
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May 31, 2011 3:33 PM
Mr. 300;786528 wrote:, would this eliminate what has happened at OSU and oher schools?

Well, Ohio State football players are given a $1000 a month stipend so I'm not exactly sure it eliminated anything.
May 31, 2011 3:33pm
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May 31, 2011 3:33 PM
Tobias Fünke;786544 wrote:Plus each of them can get a college loan for living expenses, no?
Absolutely.
May 31, 2011 3:33pm
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May 31, 2011 3:34 PM
lhslep134;786546 wrote:Well, Ohio State football players are given a $1000 a month stipend so I'm not exactly sure it eliminated anything.

Is that different than other schools? I can't imagine the NCAA would give the schools to much room for variation of the stipends.
May 31, 2011 3:34pm
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Al Bundy

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May 31, 2011 3:50 PM
FatHobbit;786543 wrote:They already get money. I guess the argument is should they get more?

If someone feels entitled to scam the system for more, no amount is going to be enough. If Pryor were given another $500 or $1000 a month, does anything really think he would have done things differently in terms of abusing the system?
May 31, 2011 3:50pm
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May 31, 2011 3:55 PM
They are already given a hefty stipend, they don't need any more. This is the dumbest subject in college sports.
May 31, 2011 3:55pm
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May 31, 2011 3:56 PM
What percentage of these athletes who break these rules are black?
May 31, 2011 3:56pm
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May 31, 2011 4:04 PM
sleeper;786562 wrote:They are already given a hefty stipend, they don't need any more. This is the dumbest subject in college sports.

Now that's something we can agree on.
May 31, 2011 4:04pm
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May 31, 2011 4:35 PM
FatHobbit;786548 wrote:Is that different than other schools? I can't imagine the NCAA would give the schools to much room for variation of the stipends.

I'm guessing it's in accordance with some sort of formula that takes into account cost of living. To me it wouldn't make much sense for OSU athletes to get as much as USC athletes when the cost of living is much higher in LA than Columbus.
May 31, 2011 4:35pm
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May 31, 2011 4:40 PM
If it can be proven that the university is making money off their name/person/etc. (ie - jersey sales) then I think that part of those profits should be held until their amateur status is removed.
May 31, 2011 4:40pm
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May 31, 2011 4:42 PM
DeyDurkie5;786563 wrote:What percentage of these athletes who break these rules are black?

I will say that it is probably more than 50.1%.
May 31, 2011 4:42pm
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May 31, 2011 4:44 PM
ernest_t_bass;786595 wrote:If it can be proven that the university is making money off their name/person/etc. (ie - jersey sales) then I think that part of those profits should be held until their amateur status is removed.

The reality is the polar opposite, IMO. The players acquire "a name" because of the program, not vice-versa.This year "Pryor", next year "Miller". The program doesn't miss a beat.
May 31, 2011 4:44pm
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May 31, 2011 4:47 PM
ernest_t_bass;786595 wrote:If it can be proven that the university is making money off their name/person/etc. (ie - jersey sales) then I think that part of those profits should be held until their amateur status is removed.

Most jerseys numbers are used multiple times. How do you prove the player that the jersey was sold for?
May 31, 2011 4:47pm
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May 31, 2011 4:49 PM
queencitybuckeye;786601 wrote:The reality is the polar opposite, IMO. The players acquire "a name" because of the program, not vice-versa.This year "Pryor", next year "Miller". The program doesn't miss a beat.

You think Cam Newton needed Auburn's "program" to acquire a "name?"
May 31, 2011 4:49pm
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May 31, 2011 4:49 PM
Al Bundy;786603 wrote:Most jerseys numbers are used multiple times. How do you prove the player that the jersey was sold for?

You serious, Clark?
May 31, 2011 4:49pm
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May 31, 2011 4:50 PM
ernest_t_bass;786606 wrote:You think Cam Newton needed Auburn's "program" to acquire a "name?"

What the hell was he a year ago? Nothing. He needed one of the big time programs to acquire a name, of course he did. As did every "name" player for decades.
May 31, 2011 4:50pm