Too close to home

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May 31, 2011 9:17am
Had a buddy that was a member of Lima Co. and was killed on Aug. 3, 2005 in Iraq. It's hard to deal w/, but we were able to turn it into a positive situation. We started a annual memorial and veterans awareness benefit, which at this point, allows us to give away 7 $1000 scholarships to students of my former high school, as well as provide for the Blue Star Mothers to send care packages to the troops. Also, we sponsored a Habitat for Humanity home, which my buddy had always wanted to help with.
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May 31, 2011 9:18am
Tiger2003;786075 wrote:Not a solider I was a Marine....I respect all those who served.

Same fucking thing.
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May 31, 2011 9:18am
GoChiefs;786085 wrote:Same fucking thing.

No it is not.
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May 31, 2011 9:19am
Tiger2003;786079 wrote:Just because I don't agree with this doesn't mean I am a horrible person....I respect the young man for fighting for this country...

This wasnt the thread to voice whether or not you agree with it.
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May 31, 2011 9:21am
Tiger2003;786087 wrote:No it is not.

Good day, soldier.
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May 31, 2011 9:21am
GoChiefs;786088 wrote:This wasnt the thread to voice whether or not you agree with it.
Ok maybe I posted this in the wrong thread....and I am sorry about that....But I do respect this young man....
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May 31, 2011 9:21am
-Society-;786090 wrote:Good day, Marine.

Yep
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May 31, 2011 9:23am
Edited.
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May 31, 2011 9:26am
Tiger2003;786051 wrote:I understand the piece of shit broke the law and being in Jail your are not free, being in the military you are free.....

I disagree with this. There are certain stipulations that could be put on them, you know.
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May 31, 2011 9:29am
-Society-;786067 wrote:It is all I have. Disregard my prior posts.

If you want more, I will leave you with this: Don't worry about who is going into the military, because we all know you won't be going to war again.

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May 31, 2011 9:32am
Tiger2003;786058 wrote:Once again I respect your friend....but I really don't agree with the matter....I don't want a kid next to me who doesn't want to be there.....

You think all people want to be there? I guarantee some kids are forced into the military by their parents, or feel obligated to do so, etc. Those kids don't "want" to be there. Some may go into the military for financial reasons, free college, etc. They don't "Want" to be there.
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May 31, 2011 9:35am
ernest_t_bass;786106 wrote:You think all people want to be there? I guarantee some kids are forced into the military by their parents, or feel obligated to do so, etc. Those kids don't "want" to be there. Some may go into the military for financial reasons, free college, etc. They don't "Want" to be there.

No good THUGS!!!
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May 31, 2011 9:58am
RIP Lt. Runkle. He has some extended family in my hometown and I have been following the story through them. I imagine it's a very tough thing to go through and my thoughts and prayers go out to his family and friends. My brother is in the Army and served in Iraq and Kuwait...I hated every minute he was there. I am so thankful he stayed safe while he was deployed.
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May 31, 2011 12:28pm
A thead started to honor a man killed in action turns into a thread about whether or not everyone in the military should want to be there.

Sounds like OhioChatter, alright.
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May 31, 2011 3:23pm
O-Trap;786340 wrote:A thead started to honor a man killed in action turns into a thread about whether or not everyone in the military should want to be there.

Sounds like OhioChatter, alright.
No kiddin', there's about 5 relevant posts out of 64, the rest is childish bickering.
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May 31, 2011 5:38pm
THE4RINGZ;785888 wrote:I graduated from a small country school in northern Ohio. Today, we sadly were informed a fellow alumnus of that school was killed in action.

Losing any American serviceman is terrible, but it seems to have more of an impact when they are from your hometown.

Rest in Peace Lieutenant Runkle.

R.I.P.



thoughts with you THE4RINGZ
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May 31, 2011 5:47pm
O-Trap;786340 wrote:A thead started to honor a man killed in action turns into a thread about whether or not everyone in the military should want to be there.

Sounds like the internet, alright.

FIFY
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May 31, 2011 10:19pm
LJ;786675 wrote:FIFY

Fair enough.
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May 31, 2011 11:44pm
Tiger2003;786030 wrote:Because I trust my life with the guys standing next to me on my left and right. I want people next to me who wanted to join. I wouldn't want some thug who broke the law and was given the 2 choices jail or military. Fuck that.


Lets please get back on topic.
In my squad in Nam we had three guys that was serving their country because they where given this type of an option. I would have given my life to protect those guys … True Grunts ….
They may not have wanted to serve their country in the beginning but in the end they wanted to live just like everyone else and live being a Patriotic American Soldier
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May 31, 2011 11:50pm
My nephew just returned from Afghanistan in March....it was a great day! I only wish The Runkle Family had the chance to welcome home their Hero!

Thoughts and Prayers from Your Waynedale Neighbors!

RIP Lt. Runkle
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Jun 1, 2011 12:20am
Belly35;787230 wrote:In my squad in Nam we had three guys that was serving their country because they where given this type of an option. I would have given my life to protect those guys … True Grunts ….
They may not have wanted to serve their country in the beginning but in the end they wanted to live just like everyone else and live being a Patriotic American Soldier

Belly don't get me wrong. I know it happens and I served with a couple of them. I just don't like it. I wanted everyone in my Squad to get back home I would do anything for them. We are still great friends and they know how I feel about it.

Really are you saying I am not a true grunt?
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Jun 1, 2011 7:51am
Tiger2003;787271 wrote:Belly don't get me wrong. I know it happens and I served with a couple of them. I just don't like it. I wanted everyone in my Squad to get back home I would do anything for them. We are still great friends and they know how I feel about it.

Really are you saying I am not a true grunt?

How did you get you not being a "true grunt" out of what he said?? It seems like you just want to argue.
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Jun 1, 2011 7:55am
Thoughts and Prayers

RIP Lt. Runkle
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Jun 1, 2011 11:47am
Do they still give those type of options? I know on an episode of JAG years ago (i know, I know, its only a show) they said that was supposed to not happen anymore.

As far as wanting to serve next to someone who was given that option. I would have to say it would be on a case-by-case basis. How competant is the soldier? Just becuase he was given that choice does not mean he wont be a good soldier. I imagine there are MORE poeple who joined the military who didnt want to because their parents pushed them into it, or they felt the economy was too bad and the military was the only option than there are those who got the 'jail or military' option from a judge.

I wouldnt hesitate to serve next to someone who joined the military over jail. I would trust the training and indoctrination they put you through would transform ya into a good soldier.


My version of 'hitting close to home' is a little different than the OP. My brother became a Navy SEAL and his first weekend at his unit was the weekend that Operation Red Wings saw over a dozen Navy SEALs killed in Afganistan in June of 2005. Up to that point ya knew it was dangerouts and all but that is when it all hit home for my brother, and our family
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Jun 1, 2011 12:31pm
Sorry to hear this, This just happend where im from in Allen county, I girl I graduated with just lost her brother. Its crazy he was the guy in school almost everyone wanted to be like, a nice guy great football player and overall good person it sucks to lose anyone but yea when its someone you know it just seems to really hit home.