Republican candidates for 2012

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HitsRus
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Jun 1, 2011 7:13pm
Note to IWP....not to split hairs but remember that "R" does not necessarily = conservative.
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Jun 1, 2011 7:51pm
HitsRus;787987 wrote:Note to IWP....not to split hairs but remember that "R" does not necessarily = conservative.
Correct and "D" doesn't always mean liberal....well wait a minute...yes it does.
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I Wear Pants
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Jun 1, 2011 7:59pm
That's why I never claimed such a thing.
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Jun 4, 2011 9:33am
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Just skip to the Palin parts.

She doesn't even understand Paul Revere.
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Jun 4, 2011 10:26am
So fucking what? The current POTUS thinks there are 57 states and that it's still 2008.

You people never cease to amuse me with your petty little obsessions.
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stlouiedipalma
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Jun 4, 2011 10:39am
I Wear Pants;790593 wrote:[video=youtube;hxBuNCpfWAk][/video]
Just skip to the Palin parts.

She doesn't even understand Paul Revere.

Why should she? None of her supporters could tell you about Paul Revere either.

This is what you get when you pander to the lowest common denominator.
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stlouiedipalma
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Jun 4, 2011 10:41am
fish82;790615 wrote:So fucking what? The current POTUS thinks there are 57 states and that it's still 2008.

You people never cease to amuse me with your petty little obsessions.

So fucking what? This woman is a human highlight reel of stupidity and she has a lot of followers. Hell, Fish, you'll vote for her if she runs against Obama.
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Jun 4, 2011 10:44am
stlouiedipalma;790625 wrote:Why should she? None of her supporters could tell you about Paul Revere either.

This is what you get when you pander to the lowest common denominator.

Elitism at its finest.

I'm no Palin fan and, frankly, I'd like to see her sit on the sidelines for any future elections -- but the way the media and some people put her down is so elitist, it makes want to puke.
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stlouiedipalma
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Jun 4, 2011 10:45am
You'll vote for her too, Writer.
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Jun 4, 2011 10:48am
If she ends up getting the nomination against Obama -- yeah, I probably would hold my nose and pull the trigger.

That should tell you just how bad I think Obama has been so far, and how much another 4 years of him makes me (to quote Gibby) "shutter with borrow". :)
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Jun 4, 2011 1:39pm
stlouiedipalma;790626 wrote:So fucking what? This woman is a human highlight reel of stupidity and she has a lot of followers. Hell, Fish, you'll vote for her if she runs against Obama.

Considering that the sitting VP makes her look like Einstein, I fail to see the significance.
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Jun 4, 2011 2:12pm
stlouiedipalma;790626 wrote:So fucking what? This woman is a human highlight reel of stupidity and she has a lot of followers. Hell, Fish, you'll vote for her if she runs against Obama.
The highlight reel of human stupidity is that the Obama campaign reeled in enough followers of the "hope & change" bullshit that he and his hypocrite elitist wife actually occupy the White House.
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Jun 4, 2011 3:57pm
fish82;790708 wrote:Considering that the sitting VP makes her look like Einstein, I fail to see the significance.
We'll disagree here.

I bring up the Palin thing because I want there to be a real Republican candidate and real discourse from their side about how and why the Democrats/Obama aren't doing a good job. Palin being relevant in that party at all drives me and a lot of other people away.
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Jun 4, 2011 5:52pm
I Wear Pants;790774 wrote:We'll disagree here.

I bring up the Palin thing because I want there to be a real Republican candidate and real discourse from their side about how and why the Democrats/Obama aren't doing a good job. Palin being relevant in that party at all drives me and a lot of other people away.

As inane as Palin can be, she's a thousand times better than the worst the Democrats can offer in the way of public figures. Michael Moore anyone?
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Jun 5, 2011 1:24am
Michael Moore never, ever, ever fuckin' ever, got anywhere near a presidential ballot is the very key distinction there.
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Jun 5, 2011 1:25am
Michael Moore wasn't a VP nominee for his given party either...

Palin's an idiot, and no one in their right mind would possibly think she should be anywhere near the Presidency. Let's just leave it at that.
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Jun 5, 2011 7:43am
2kool4skool;791074 wrote:Palin's an idiot, and no one in their right mind would possibly think she should be anywhere near the Presidency.
Why not? Anything's possible. After all, look who's in the White House at the moment.
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Jun 5, 2011 8:50am
2kool4skool;791074 wrote:Michael Moore wasn't a VP nominee for his given party either...

Palin's an idiot, and no one in their right mind would possibly think she should be anywhere near the Presidency. Let's just leave it at that.
Posts like this are why I just love this place. :cool:
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Jun 5, 2011 11:43am
I LOL when I hear people slam Palin's "stupidity" knowing full well they voted for the most inept president we've seen since Carter, and that ticket included a VP who has made Dan Quayle look like a member of Mensa.
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Jun 5, 2011 12:01pm
Writerbuckeye;791196 wrote:I LOL when I hear people slam Palin's "stupidity" knowing full well they voted for the most inept president we've seen since Carter, and that ticket included a VP who has made Dan Quayle look like a member of Mensa.
Typical Democrat ploy. If your guy's an idiot, deflect that fact by portraying your opponent as an idiot. IE: It's Bush's Fault
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stlouiedipalma
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Jun 5, 2011 3:40pm
Writerbuckeye;791196 wrote:I LOL when I hear people slam Palin's "stupidity" knowing full well they voted for the most inept president we've seen since Carter, and that ticket included a VP who has made Dan Quayle look like a member of Mensa.

Your opinion only, Writer. Just like my opinion that anyone who voted for a ticket with Palin on it was either stupid, crazy or both.

Who did you vote for??
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stlouiedipalma
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Jun 5, 2011 3:43pm
believer;791114 wrote:Why not? Anything's possible. After all, look who's in the White House at the moment.

Elected with approximately 53% of the vote. If that was possible, what does that say about your candidate in 2008? Oh, yeah, I think it begins with a capital "L".
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Jun 5, 2011 3:44pm
Here's the thing. You don't have to be an idiot to vote for a bad candidate. Just identify more strongly with some of their issues than the other guy. I voted for McCain which I'm sure is surprising for how much I defend Obama on here. I just feel like people don't give him an objective analysis and rather listen to the loud angry voices. Because I don't think he's done a particularly great job. I just don't buy into the antichrist rhetoric either.
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stlouiedipalma
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Jun 5, 2011 3:52pm
I Wear Pants;791390 wrote:Here's the thing. You don't have to be an idiot to vote for a bad candidate. Just identify more strongly with some of their issues than the other guy. I voted for McCain which I'm sure is surprising for how much I defend Obama on here. I just feel like people don't give him an objective analysis and rather listen to the loud angry voices. Because I don't think he's done a particularly great job. I just don't buy into the antichrist rhetoric either.

And McCain could have won, but for a terrible error in judgement when he selected his running mate. I really believe that this error, along with the economic crisis (which exposed his glaring weakness on economics) cost him the election.
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Jun 5, 2011 4:17pm
stlouiedipalma;791396 wrote:And McCain could have won, but for a terrible error in judgement when he selected his running mate. I really believe that this error, along with the economic crisis (which exposed his glaring weakness on economics) cost him the election.

Her selection helped him go from 5-6 points down to 2-3 points up prior to the financial meltdown that September/October, which was the real nail in his coffin. IIRC, most exit polling showed she had minimal if not nil effect on the final numbers.

It's a popular talking point to say she cost him the White House, but the reality is she kept him from getting his ass kicked twice as badly.