LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 6, 2012 9:30pm
Romney will still end up with more Delegates. Santorum is unable to sweep Ohio due to not filing in every district.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Mar 6, 2012 9:30pm
Most Republicans?....come on, give us a break. You're preaching to the choir. How about the Dems? They constitute at least 40% of this country and are rushing headlong with government takeovers of healthcare, trillion dollar deficits, subsidizing alternative energy and ignoring the price at the pump.....Oh no....nothing is going to change.There's no difference between the candidates...LOL.You're correct. Most Republicans can't grasp onto the liberty platform. Paul has increased his support about fourfold since 08. But still not enough to make a serious impact.
Oh I know exactly what he's saying, and I agree with alot of it. But if you can't come into a moderately conservative bellweather state like Ohio and compete even among Republicans, what chance are you going to have in the general election?That's because at least 85% of Republican voters are too stupid to understand what he's saying.
100% of Paulbots are delusional.
I like Paul's candidacy, I hopes he wins a few states and goes to the convention with some influence...because that's the best that can happen.
Is it too late to draft Condi?Look, I'm a moderate and would vote against Obama depending on the candidate, but these guy are no ****ing moderates
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Mar 6, 2012 9:32pm
Seeing what counties have yet to report in Ohio its not looking good for Willard.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 6, 2012 9:34pm
Counties don't matter. Congressional districts and overall popular vote.majorspark;1107549 wrote:Seeing what counties have yet to report in Ohio its not looking good for Willard.
BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Mar 6, 2012 9:34pm
I'm not a Santorum supporter. Far from it. But it's because I think he's no conservative, I think he erred by backing Arlen Specter, and mostly I think he became a RINO during his stay in D.C. But...in no way...is he crazy.ptown_trojans_1;1107525 wrote:He is crazy, His policies make no sense. The President cannot and should be be a cultural warrior.
His foreign policy makes no sense and is full of holes.
He puts everything as its the worst its ever been language, which is false.
Oh, and he has no support of moderates, women, or Latinos all needed to bear Obama.
Romney is the only one that can beat Obama really. Otherwise, Obama dominates the west, and wins reelection.
If ANYONE thinks he's for making gay acts illegal, removing condoms from drugstores, and bombing Iran on January 21, 2013, then they are indeed loco. I will say this about him...he's very genuine and holds nothing back about what he believes. Where y'all get sideways with him is y'all think he'll legislate lifestyles into felonies. Do you really think he'd do that?
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Mar 6, 2012 9:34pm
Freedom is at stake? WTF Rick?
Really, guess I missed that one.
Since when is Obama a dictator and can take freedom away from us all? Give me a break.
Really, guess I missed that one.
Since when is Obama a dictator and can take freedom away from us all? Give me a break.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Mar 6, 2012 9:36pm
Well, he better cut the bullshit talk then.....Give me policy prescriptions then. Not rhetoric.BGFalcons82;1107553 wrote:I'm not a Santorum supporter. Far from it. But it's because I think he's no conservative, I think he erred by backing Arlen Specter, and mostly I think he became a RINO during his stay in D.C. But...in no way...is he crazy.
If ANYONE thinks he's for making gay acts illegal, removing condoms from drugstores, and bombing Iran on January 21, 2013, then they are indeed loco. I will say this about him...he's very genuine and holds nothing back about what he believes. Where y'all get sideways with him is y'all think he'll legislate lifestyles into felonies. Do you really think he'd do that?
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 6, 2012 9:36pm
Most likely have Judges retiring in the next presidential term.ptown_trojans_1;1107554 wrote:Freedom is at stake? WTF Rick?
Really, guess I missed that one.
Since when is Obama a dictator and can take freedom away from us all? Give me a break.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Mar 6, 2012 9:42pm
Still, freedom at stake?LJ;1107557 wrote:Most likely have Judges retiring in the next presidential term.
That is a little over the top. Ricky can tone it down a litte bit.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Mar 6, 2012 9:43pm
They've all been hitting it in their radio spots here.ptown_trojans_1;1107559 wrote:Still, freedom at stake?
That is a little over the top. Ricky can tone it down a litte bit.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Mar 6, 2012 9:46pm
No reason to, it's obviously working for him in Ohio...ptown_trojans_1;1107559 wrote:Still, freedom at stake?
That is a little over the top. Ricky can tone it down a litte bit.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Mar 6, 2012 9:48pm
I know. Certain counties tend to be more socially conservative just where votes are left to be counted is my only observation.LJ;1107552 wrote:Counties don't matter. Congressional districts and overall popular vote.
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dtdtim
Posts: 358
Mar 6, 2012 9:49pm
Actually, I think it's the opposite if the CNN map is current as of 9:45pm. Most of the rural counties have at least 60% of their precincts in and Santorum holds a small lead. Franklin, Cuyahoga, Hamilton, Lucas, etc. have a lot more precincts to go because they have far more people, and the counties holding the big areas look to be trending Romney. At the very least, it's going to be close, but I don't know if Santorum has pulled enough votes out of the metro areas to hold onto his lead.majorspark;1107549 wrote:Seeing what counties have yet to report in Ohio its not looking good for Willard.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Mar 6, 2012 9:50pm
Hmmm, how the hell is he going to pay for an increase in vet benefits? It is sucking up more and more of the defense and VA budget each year. It is the silent problem in the DOD.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Mar 6, 2012 9:58pm
Which one of you assholes voted for Santorum?
Seriously, who is voting for this guy? I've not met these people.
Seriously, who is voting for this guy? I've not met these people.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Mar 6, 2012 9:59pm
Repealing all gay marriages? He's said he would do that.BGFalcons82;1107553 wrote:I'm not a Santorum supporter. Far from it. But it's because I think he's no conservative, I think he erred by backing Arlen Specter, and mostly I think he became a RINO during his stay in D.C. But...in no way...is he crazy.
If ANYONE thinks he's for making gay acts illegal, removing condoms from drugstores, and bombing Iran on January 21, 2013, then they are indeed loco. I will say this about him...he's very genuine and holds nothing back about what he believes. Where y'all get sideways with him is y'all think he'll legislate lifestyles into felonies. Do you really think he'd do that?
He doesn't need to make it a felony, just make discrimination okay. My generation is tired of that sort of bullshit which is why far and away the 18-30 demographic is either Paul or Obama from what I've seen.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Mar 6, 2012 10:06pm
I'll give you the healthcare argument.....but nothing else that you posted. Trillion dollar deficits for example. Explain to me how the GOP has not run up trillion dollar deficits. Because they have...and they will continue to do so. Subsidizing alternative energy.....that also is not limited to the Democrats. Ignoring the price at the pump? You cannot be serious Hits. What exactly does the president do, or not do that influences speculators from driving oil prices up? The only argument that might have merit....would be the war drum banging regarding Iran. In this instance, the GOP and Obama are both a collective group of a$$holes.HitsRus;1107542 wrote:Most Republicans?....come on, give us a break. You're preaching to the choir. How about the Dems? They constitute at least 40% of this country and are rushing headlong with government takeovers of healthcare, trillion dollar deficits, subsidizing alternative energy and ignoring the price at the pump.....Oh no....nothing is going to change.There's no difference between the candidates...LOL.t
No....there is very little difference between the two parties. Very, very little.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Mar 6, 2012 10:11pm
Goodness gracious sakes alive PTowne. You've let your hair down on this thread! And all of your posts have been slam dunks and dead nuts on the money.ptown_trojans_1;1107573 wrote:Hmmm, how the hell is he going to pay for an increase in vet benefits? It is sucking up more and more of the defense and VA budget each year. It is the silent problem in the DOD.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Mar 6, 2012 10:13pm
Healthcare argument isn't valid either. Health care in the US has been massively increasing for decades outstripping any other countries rise in cost and there hasn't been a significant growth rate increase in costs since Obama took office.
Now they certainly haven't gone down at all but it's not as if prices had been steady and then Obama came in and fucked everything up.
Now they certainly haven't gone down at all but it's not as if prices had been steady and then Obama came in and fucked everything up.
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dtdtim
Posts: 358
Mar 6, 2012 10:19pm
Ohio may come down to <2,000 votes.
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dtdtim
Posts: 358
Mar 6, 2012 10:24pm
When I was in my late teens, I would have vehemently disagreed with this.Footwedge;1107585 wrote:there is very little difference between the two parties. Very, very little.
Years later, I wish I still had the optimism left in me to disagree.
One of the actual good things to come from the elections of 2000, 2004, and 2008 was the overall increase in interest and participation in the election process. Call it a hunch but I think that 3-cycle trend comes to a screeching halt in November....neither Obama nor Romney will be rocking any vote.
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dtdtim
Posts: 358
Mar 6, 2012 10:31pm
Ohio may turn momentum toward Santorum, yet have more of its delegates go to Mitt Romney.
Yes, I understand the technicality of why this is going to happen. But can anyone honestly say this makes sense in the least bit?
Yes, I understand the technicality of why this is going to happen. But can anyone honestly say this makes sense in the least bit?
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Mar 6, 2012 10:35pm
Newt needs to get out of the race right now.
He is helping Willard by staying in and splitting the anti-Willard vote.
He is helping Willard by staying in and splitting the anti-Willard vote.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Mar 6, 2012 10:44pm
I don't know, I have a feeling a lot of his vote would go to Romney.IggyPride00;1107623 wrote:Newt needs to get out of the race right now.
He is helping Willard by staying in and splitting the anti-Willard vote.
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dtdtim
Posts: 358
Mar 6, 2012 10:48pm
In cases like Ohio, possibly, but I don't really think he's making enough of a difference elsewhere.IggyPride00;1107623 wrote:Newt needs to get out of the race right now.
He is helping Willard by staying in and splitting the anti-Willard vote.