tk421
Posts: 8,500
Jan 31, 2012 3:40am
as long as special interests and jails continue to be big business, I don't care who is in office it isn't going to change.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jan 31, 2012 5:07am
Sounds like my kinda guy.Footwedge;1070665 wrote:Newt just went off a yellin at the media.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jan 31, 2012 5:31am
Were all those people unfairly jailed? Did they not break laws which had jail time sentences associated with them?I Wear Pants;1070894 wrote:
Which one of the Republicans would do anything about that? It's not Newt, Mittens, or Frothy.
Shouldn't we be outraged at the amount of crime as opposed to the amount of jail time that is handed out in this country?
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Jan 31, 2012 5:48am
As of today, it's a toss-up.Footwedge;1070668 wrote:So who wins? The closet liberal acting like a conservative or the closet liberal acting like a conservative?
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jan 31, 2012 5:52am
And only 10 more months to go!fish82;1070936 wrote:As of today, it's a toss-up.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 31, 2012 6:14am
Perhaps we should be concerned that we spend an enormous amount for highly questionable results. It's reasonably clear that "more jail less crime" is not a realistic mantra.Con_Alma;1070933 wrote:Were all those people unfairly jailed? Did they not break laws which had jail time sentences associated with them?
Shouldn't we be outraged at the amount of crime as opposed to the amount of jail time that is handed out in this country?
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Jan 31, 2012 6:38am
I know. Just shoot me now.believer;1070939 wrote:And only 10 more months to go!
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Jan 31, 2012 6:51am
We jail more people than fucking Russia dude.Con_Alma;1070933 wrote:Were all those people unfairly jailed? Did they not break laws which had jail time sentences associated with them?
Shouldn't we be outraged at the amount of crime as opposed to the amount of jail time that is handed out in this country?
We have more shitty laws that are enforced, not more shitty people committing crimes. Wake up.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Jan 31, 2012 6:58am
We are a land of laws. If we don't enforce the laws we have greater issues than weak laws populating the jails and prisons.I Wear Pants;1070952 wrote:We jail more people than ****ing Russia dude.
We have more ****ty laws that are enforced, not more ****ty people committing crimes. Wake up.
Follow the laws or get them changed but complaining about being punished for the laws in place is worthless.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Jan 31, 2012 4:10pm
The problem are the laws and our system.Con_Alma;1070954 wrote:We are a land of laws. If we don't enforce the laws we have greater issues than weak laws populating the jails and prisons.
Follow the laws or get them changed but complaining about being punished for the laws in place is worthless.
The attitude you're taking is that there is no problem.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Jan 31, 2012 4:59pm
Agree in part with the former, less so with the latter. In what way is the problem "the system"?I Wear Pants;1071536 wrote:The problem are the laws and our system.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Jan 31, 2012 7:50pm
Half the Florida precincts reporting:
Mitt 49%
Newt 30%
Rick 13%
Ron 7%
Mitt 49%
Newt 30%
Rick 13%
Ron 7%
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jan 31, 2012 8:08pm
Rick and Ron need to bow out.fish82;1071634 wrote:Half the Florida precincts reporting:
Mitt 49%
Newt 30%
Rick 13%
Ron 7%
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 31, 2012 8:27pm
Ron spent $0 and 0 time in Florida. The results aren't surprising at all, the two with the most corporate money were at the top.believer;1071645 wrote:Rick and Ron need to bow out.
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sjmvsfscs08
Posts: 2,963
Jan 31, 2012 9:21pm
Iowa: Rick Santorum
New Hampshire: Mitt Romney
South Carolina: Newt Gingrich
Florida: Mitt Romney
February primaries/caucuses...
Nevada: Romney
Maine: Romney
Colorado: ??
Minnesota: ??
Arizona: ??
Michigan: Romney
Honestly I see Romney winning Nevada (Mormons), Maine (close to MA), and Michigan (father) running away.
Any predictions? I do have the states right, right?
New Hampshire: Mitt Romney
South Carolina: Newt Gingrich
Florida: Mitt Romney
February primaries/caucuses...
Nevada: Romney
Maine: Romney
Colorado: ??
Minnesota: ??
Arizona: ??
Michigan: Romney
Honestly I see Romney winning Nevada (Mormons), Maine (close to MA), and Michigan (father) running away.
Any predictions? I do have the states right, right?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 31, 2012 9:23pm
And I see Obama winning all those in the presidential election.sjmvsfscs08;1071677 wrote:Iowa: Rick Santorum
New Hampshire: Mitt Romney
South Carolina: Newt Gingrich
Florida: Mitt Romney
February primaries/caucuses...
Nevada: Romney
Maine: Romney
Colorado: ??
Minnesota: ??
Arizona: ??
Michigan: Romney
Honestly I see Romney winning Nevada (Mormons), Maine (close to MA), and Michigan (father) running away.
Any predictions? I do have the states right, right?
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Jan 31, 2012 9:26pm
We have a penal system that has a clear incentive to want to have more people incarcerated.queencitybuckeye;1071568 wrote:Agree in part with the former, less so with the latter. In what way is the problem "the system"?
And I watched some of Newt's speech and I wanted to puke on the TV.
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sjmvsfscs08
Posts: 2,963
Jan 31, 2012 9:27pm
I think Romney will win Nevada, Minnesota, and Michigan.sleeper;1071681 wrote:And I see Obama winning all those in the presidential election.
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sjmvsfscs08
Posts: 2,963
Jan 31, 2012 9:28pm
And if I ever get ticketed for driving in the left lane without passing you can be sure as hell I will be one of them before I give a single fucking dollar to the state.I Wear Pants;1071683 wrote:We have a penal system that has a clear incentive to want to have more people incarcerated.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jan 31, 2012 10:07pm
And I watched some of Newt's speech and I wanted to puke on the TV.
Newt focused squarely on Obama. I didn't find that nauseating at all.
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dtdtim
Posts: 358
Jan 31, 2012 10:26pm
Minnesota's electoral votes last went to a Republican in 1972, when the Democrat won 1 state.sjmvsfscs08;1071684 wrote:I think Romney will win Nevada, Minnesota, and Michigan.
Of the three...Nevada is by far the most likely for Romney, followed by Michigan. There are 20 other states that I would put in the 'maybe Romney' category before Minnesota. They're no DC but they're definitely not a Utah.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jan 31, 2012 10:38pm
What the hell will Obama do for 4 years if he doesn't have to spend them all campaigning for re-election? MORE golf, lavish vacations and hangin' with celebs?sleeper;1071681 wrote:And I see Obama winning all those in the presidential election.
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Ghmothwdwhso
Posts: 534
Jan 31, 2012 11:25pm
When you're a flaming liberal, that will happen.....................I Wear Pants;1071683 wrote:We have a penal system that has a clear incentive to want to have more people incarcerated.
And I watched some of Newt's speech and I wanted to puke on the TV.
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stlouiedipalma
Posts: 1,797
Jan 31, 2012 11:41pm
I suppose he could, but they aren't running, are they? Actually a Clinton endorsement would be fairly ironic, as Newt led the impeachment fight against Slick Willie while he was playing hide the weiner with that blondie who appears on the stage with him all the time. I've always wondered what must have gone through her mind (besides air) when she was willing to be the kept woman in Newt's open marriage proposal. I wonder if Newt will ever let her speak out on the campaign trail.believer;1070490 wrote:Do you suppose Gingrich can get endorsements from Bill Clinton and John Edwards too?
dwccrew
Posts: 7,817
Jan 31, 2012 11:58pm
I don't think so. Why should they? The primaries are not over, no need to bow out until a canidate is officially decided.believer;1071645 wrote:Rick and Ron need to bow out.