ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Jan 15, 2012 12:48pm
we knew he sucked from day 1HitsRus;1053269 wrote:we've had 35 years of history to judge Carter....not so much historical perspective on GWB.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Jan 15, 2012 12:57pm
Oh you are right...we could have had Al Gore!
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
Jan 15, 2012 1:10pm
I'm talking about CarterHitsRus;1053281 wrote:Oh you are right...we could have had Al Gore!
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jan 15, 2012 2:00pm
Come to think of it, you're right.FairwoodKing;1053172 wrote:...Obama looks like Abraham Lincoln.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Jan 15, 2012 7:37pm
Interesting that Dubyas current approval rating is about 5 points ahead of Obama's, huh?FairwoodKing;1053172 wrote:He was also the worst president we ever had. Compared with Bush, Obama looks like Abraham Lincoln.
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Zombaypirate
Posts: 581
Jan 15, 2012 7:47pm
The US is going to stay status quo.
Mitt Romney will be the GOP nominee and if he beats Obama no one will notice a difference. SIGH....
Mitt Romney will be the GOP nominee and if he beats Obama no one will notice a difference. SIGH....
Tobias Fünke
Posts: 2,387
Jan 16, 2012 12:18am
It baffles me how people can actually believe this.Zombaypirate;1053874 wrote:The US is going to stay status quo.
Mitt Romney will be the GOP nominee and if he beats Obama no one will notice a difference. SIGH....
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jan 16, 2012 5:17am
While Mitt is not a conservative by any stretch of the imagination, he will nonetheless be a far more effective POTUS than the Dis-Appointed One.Tobias Fünke;1054302 wrote:It baffles me how people can actually believe this.
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Zombaypirate
Posts: 581
Jan 16, 2012 5:57am
Simple, the deficit will continue to rise and nothing of any importance will change.Tobias Fünke;1054302 wrote:It baffles me how people can actually believe this.
We will still get us some Obama care too. Romney is socialist just like Obama.
It is incredible liberals are so blind.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jan 16, 2012 6:52am
This wouldn't change even if Saint Paul took office. No one person will cause a big enough change to make the Big Gubmint deficit monster go away.Zombaypirate;1054372 wrote:Simple, the deficit will continue to rise and nothing of any importance will change.
We will still get us some Obama care too. Romney is socialist just like Obama.
It is incredible liberals are so blind.
With the bitter partisan political climate we've been experiencing in DC the past few decades, it's not about to change anytime soon short of complete worldwide financial meltdown.
So the best we can do is vote for the folks who will lead us into economic oblivion a little slower.
Paul might be best suited for that at the moment but he will never come close to occupying the Oval Orifice. I'll vote for Paul in the primary as a last great act of defiance towards the Republican establishment...and then I'll cut my losses by voting for Romney this fall.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jan 16, 2012 8:41am
Two bottles with the same contents, but different labels.believer;1053043 wrote:True...But I'd still rather give Romney a chance rather than give Obama 4 more years of raging ineptitude.
I certainly understand the desire to get out, but I'm not sure which I prefer: a mostly inept president who seems to have the bipartisan negotiation skills of a vacuum cleaner or an intelligent, but greedy politician who has the ability to appeal to "both sides."
It has been my experience that if you've got someone working against you, it's better to have someone inept.
Reps to follow.believer;1053369 wrote:Come to think of it, you're right.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 16, 2012 9:30am
I was going to ask him how Obama helped him. But then I remembered I didn't care.ccrunner609;1054477 wrote:Wow, just wow.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 16, 2012 11:24am
Romney is a RINO. The path in which Romney takes us might be different, but the destination is the same. More wars, greater deficits, no real solutions to any important issue. Romney may be better than Obama, but I'm honestly tired of picking between the lesser of the two evils and a vote for Paul is actually someone I want to be president.Tobias Fünke;1054302 wrote:It baffles me how people can actually believe this.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Jan 16, 2012 11:40am
You've voted in what, 1 presidential election?sleeper;1054577 wrote:Romney is a RINO. The path in which Romney takes us might be different, but the destination is the same. More wars, greater deficits, no real solutions to any important issue. Romney may be better than Obama, but I'm honestly tired of picking between the lesser of the two evils and a vote for Paul is actually someone I want to be president.
I agree with you 100%, my vote is for Paul in the primaries. I just thought it funny to say "I'm tired of..." after doing it once
.I mean I've only voted myself in 3 presidential elections myself (turned 18 just a couple months after the 1996 election).
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Jan 16, 2012 12:21pm
Huntsman is out now. More moderates can now line up behind Romney.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/huntsman-to-drop-out-of-gop-race/
If Romney wins the nomination, the 2012 version of the Republican party may go down as the dumbest political entity in US history. You add 60-some seats to the House in 2010, thanks to conservative Tea Partiers, most of whom were energized in opposition to Obamacare, and then you nominate the architect of a state-level version of Obamacare. Astounding.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/huntsman-to-drop-out-of-gop-race/
If Romney wins the nomination, the 2012 version of the Republican party may go down as the dumbest political entity in US history. You add 60-some seats to the House in 2010, thanks to conservative Tea Partiers, most of whom were energized in opposition to Obamacare, and then you nominate the architect of a state-level version of Obamacare. Astounding.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 16, 2012 12:50pm
Once again, link to how many elections one must vote in in order to sick of the status quo? It's not like I can't have a rational thought before I even was of age to vote and know that most people chose between the lesser of two evils rather than a candidate they mostly agree with. Research has shown people like to vote for a winner regardless of their current beliefs.jmog;1054596 wrote:You've voted in what, 1 presidential election?
I agree with you 100%, my vote is for Paul in the primaries. I just thought it funny to say "I'm tired of..." after doing it once
I mean I've only voted myself in 3 presidential elections myself (turned 18 just a couple months after the 1996 election).
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Jan 16, 2012 1:07pm
I didn't condemn you or say you couldn't have an opinion, I basically just found it humorous. Obviously in America your opinion counts just as much as someone 70 yrs old, both get 1 vote.sleeper;1054687 wrote:Once again, link to how many elections one must vote in in order to sick of the status quo? It's not like I can't have a rational thought before I even was of age to vote and know that most people chose between the lesser of two evils rather than a candidate they mostly agree with. Research has shown people like to vote for a winner regardless of their current beliefs.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jan 16, 2012 1:38pm
Or tied with the 2004 Dems. You have Bush II and his lackluster approval rating, so you counter with Kerrey, who had so little charisma that he looked like a block of granite compared to Bush.jhay78;1054641 wrote:Huntsman is out now. More moderates can now line up behind Romney.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/huntsman-to-drop-out-of-gop-race/
If Romney wins the nomination, the 2012 version of the Republican party may go down as the dumbest political entity in US history. You add 60-some seats to the House in 2010, thanks to conservative Tea Partiers, most of whom were energized in opposition to Obamacare, and then you nominate the architect of a state-level version of Obamacare. Astounding.
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Jan 16, 2012 4:02pm
Maybe, but I don't remember a massive wave of Democrat opposition to GWBush's policies before 2004, no takeover of the House in 2002, etc.Heretic;1054718 wrote:Or tied with the 2004 Dems. You have Bush II and his lackluster approval rating, so you counter with Kerrey, who had so little charisma that he looked like a block of granite compared to Bush.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Jan 16, 2012 5:31pm
Don't forget Fairwood's favorite former Congressman; the dishonorable Barney Frank.ccrunner609;1054502 wrote:He cant tell you. He has no clue how bad the Dems policies have been for us the past few years. People like him have no clue that our economic situtation that "WE" are all in is directly related to crap like Frank Dodd.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Jan 16, 2012 5:41pm
Who will be enjoying a much more cushy retirement than you funded in part by your hard labor.believer;1054967 wrote:Don't forget Fairwood's favorite former Congressman; the dishonorable Barney Frank.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jan 16, 2012 7:36pm
Never agreed with you more.jhay78;1054641 wrote:If Romney wins the nomination, the 2012 version of the Republican party may go down as the dumbest political entity in US history. You add 60-some seats to the House in 2010, thanks to conservative Tea Partiers, most of whom were energized in opposition to Obamacare, and then you nominate the architect of a state-level version of Obamacare. Astounding.
I'd almost prefer Obama, as at least the Republicans in Congress are wary of anything he might suggest.
I'm willing to bet they'd defend the exact same suggestion if put forth by the Republican Bruce Campbell.
I prefer to think of him as Barabbas Frank.believer;1054967 wrote:Don't forget Fairwood's favorite former Congressman; the dishonorable Barney Frank.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jan 16, 2012 10:02pm
ccrunner609;1055218 wrote:Newt and Paul arent getting equal mic time.
Shocking. The two that are able to make Romney look bad and who are likely to be his biggest contenders throughout the race are getting no time.
ccrunner609;1055232 wrote:"Mr. Romney are you going to release your tax records?"
"uuhh, uuhhh, uuuhhh, words, uuuhhh, probably"
I know now he is a snake oil salesman.
Foreign bank accounts CAN be difficult to track sometimes. Poor Mitt.
He's the best orator of the bunch, either side of the aisle. I don't trust the guy as far as I could throw him, but damn can he deliver a riveting monologue ... even an impromptu one.ccrunner609;1055240 wrote:Newt just crushed Juan Williams and got a standing ovation.
There is no doubt he would do the same to Obama.
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stlouiedipalma
Posts: 1,797
Jan 16, 2012 10:09pm
They're all making claims and promises they know damn well they either can't deliver on or won't deliver on. There's an awful lot of hot air on 29th Street in Myrtle Beach tonight, and it's not from the ocean breezes.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Jan 16, 2012 10:12pm
Kind of like promising Hope and Change?:rolleyes: How is closing Gitmo going anyway and those shovel ready jobs?:laugh:stlouiedipalma;1055270 wrote:They're all making claims and promises they know damn well they either can't deliver on or won't deliver on. There's an awful lot of hot air on 29th Street in Myrtle Beach tonight, and it's not from the ocean breezes.