stlouiedipalma;804218 wrote:Didn't use the prompter against McCain and he pretty much owned him. None of these Republican candidates are capable of an original thought, as all of the spouting we hear from them are the standard talking points. Whenever anyone tries to get them to answer a question off that path, they continue as if the question was never asked.

The only thing Obama has owned is being the very definition of an empty suit. I really don't know anyone can defend this administration at this point - do people just love misery? The other sports/political board I frequent is FAR more liberal - probably 60/40 in favor of left-wingers, and they are even more noisy, and none of them are defending him at this point. What is there to defend? Obama said himself if the economy doesn't turn around he's a one-termer - he should have been a no-termer if we had our wits about us in '08. There's no more hope and change - he's just an inexperienced politician who had no idea what he was getting himself into and the rats (Romer, Summers, Goolsbee) are jumping ship. At this point I'd support Kermit the Frog over the status quo.

Manhattan Buckeye;804241 wrote:The only thing Obama has owned is being the very definition of an empty suit. I really don't know anyone can defend this administration at this point - do people just love misery? The other sports/political board I frequent is FAR more liberal - probably 60/40 in favor of left-wingers, and they are even more noisy, and none of them are defending him at this point. What is there to defend? Obama said himself if the economy doesn't turn around he's a one-termer - he should have been a no-termer if we had our wits about us in '08. There's no more hope and change - he's just an inexperienced politician who had no idea what he was getting himself into and the rats (Romer, Summers, Goolsbee) are jumping ship. At this point I'd support Kermit the Frog over the status quo.

This pretty much says it all.

Abject failure is too nice a way to describe Bam's first term to date.

I think you'd get a lot less defending if there wasn't as much batshit crazy, tinfoil wearing "he's trying to ruin the country on purpose because he's a Muslim socialist/communist/marxist who hates America" stuff.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/06/16/romney_solidifies_lead.html

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/06/16/voters_sour_on_the_republican_party.html

I know two things to be true.

-Ty Webb is a stupid Fuck
-if the politico is reporting it. It's false or pushing their agenda.

bases_loaded;804367 wrote:I know two things to be true.

-Ty Webb is a stupid Fuck
-if the politico is reporting it. It's false or pushing their agenda.

Truth hurt a little?

2012 Republican Candidate … anyone that can balance a check will beat Obama

Will some one please tell me what Obama can provide as a positive action for America that his Administration and his Agenda have done?

Want sector of the America population can support Obama?

I Wear Pants;804350 wrote:I think you'd get a lot less defending if there wasn't as much bat**** crazy, tinfoil wearing "he's trying to ruin the country on purpose because he's a Muslim socialist/communist/marxist who hates America" stuff.

Point taken; but it would be nice to know who he really is.

Ty Webb;804370 wrote:Truth hurt a little?

Huh? They are painting huntsman as a dream candidate. Huntsman=McCain. Another media dream

Ty Webb;804363 wrote:http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/06/16/romney_solidifies_lead.html

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/06/16/voters_sour_on_the_republican_party.html

From the first article:

Obama's overall job-approval is above 50% everywhere outside the South.

Really? :rolleyes:

I Wear Pants;804350 wrote:I think you'd get a lot less defending if there wasn't as much bat**** crazy, tinfoil wearing "he's trying to ruin the country on purpose because he's a Muslim socialist/communist/marxist who hates America" stuff.

It's a small but vocal minority....not unlike those who froth at the mouth every time Sarah Palin's name is mentioned.

Add Michelle Bachman to the Left's looney list - http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/16/michele-bachmann-s-first-dude-husband-marcus-bachmann.html

When you absolutely have no f*cking bullets in your gun, other than "it's ALL the fault of Bush", you must attack anyone and everyone linked to a potential nominee. Attack her husband, drag his azz through the slime, deride, degrade, spit, and whatever else they need to do to make sure she looks worse than the current P.O.S. in the White House.

What a platform, eh?: "Our policies and performance suck, so we'll show you whom sucks MORE!!" Wait...I forgot...Ty says that Americans will overwhelmingly approve this and cast their votes from more inflation, higher energy costs, no jobs, more wars, and above all....hope and change.

More to come I'm sure...she must have done pretty well in the debate the other night, as she's made the move to #2 behind Romney.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/romney_bachmann_cain_lead_the_pack_among_gop_primary_voters

For a group that considers themselves of superior intelligence the democrats sure do rely on the media to tell them what to think a lot.

bases_loaded;804429 wrote:For a group that considers themselves of superior intelligence the democrats sure do rely on the media to tell them what to think a lot.

They are more concerned with the vintage of their Pinot Grigio at the beach ........

More like they (Democrats) let the media do their dirty work for them. That way, if the media crosses a line, they can stand back and say how awful it is -- of course with a smirk on their face.

fish82;804426 wrote:she's made the move to #2 .

That's what I'm sayin.....

BGFalcons82;804417 wrote:Add Michelle Bachman to the Left's looney list - http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/16/michele-bachmann-s-first-dude-husband-marcus-bachmann.html

When you absolutely have no f*cking bullets in your gun, other than "it's ALL the fault of Bush", you must attack anyone and everyone linked to a potential nominee. Attack her husband, drag his azz through the slime, deride, degrade, spit, and whatever else they need to do to make sure she looks worse than the current P.O.S. in the White House.

What a platform, eh?: "Our policies and performance suck, so we'll show you whom sucks MORE!!" Wait...I forgot...Ty says that Americans will overwhelmingly approve this and cast their votes from more inflation, higher energy costs, no jobs, more wars, and above all....hope and change.

What's so different about what is being said about Mr. Bachman and the attacks on Mrs. Obama? Long ago, family members were considered off-limits during campaigns. Ever since the days of Rosalyn Carter and her influence on her husband's policies and decisions this has not been the case. Actually, Mr. Bachman is described in the article as being her top advisor throughout her career and will probably be doing the same during her campaign. Because of this he is considered fair game.

No one is going to be totally happy with treatment of the candidates' spouses, but the times have changed.

QuakerOats;804437 wrote:They are more concerned with the vintage of their Pinot Grigio at the beach ........

Yeah, every person more left of you surely is a wino on the beach. Jesus Christ.

I Wear Pants;804834 wrote:Yeah, every person more left of you surely is a wino on the beach. Jesus Christ.

Naw....Jesus turned water into wine.

bases_loaded;804429 wrote:For a group that considers themselves of superior intelligence the democrats sure do rely on the media to tell them what to think a lot.

LOL....as opposed to the daily 16 million listeners that tune into Rush Limbaugh to receive their talking points for the week.

BGFalcons82;804417 wrote:Add Michelle Bachman to the Left's looney list - http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/16/michele-bachmann-s-first-dude-husband-marcus-bachmann.html

When you absolutely have no f*cking bullets in your gun, other than "it's ALL the fault of Bush", you must attack anyone and everyone linked to a potential nominee. Attack her husband, drag his azz through the slime, deride, degrade, spit, and whatever else they need to do to make sure she looks worse than the current P.O.S. in the White House.

The POS in the White House has an approval rating about 20 percentage points higher than the last guy in power.

cast their votes from more inflation, higher energy costs, no jobs, more wars, and above all....hope and change.

Amazing how similiar this guy is in comparison to the last guy, isn't it?

"The POS in the White House has an approval rating about 20 percentage points higher than the last guy in power."

How's that working out for us? Maybe Justin Bieber can immigrate and run....Obama has blown it. If his supporters and sycophants can't see it, it doesn't keep that from being a fact. Another 5 1/2 years of trillion dollar deficits and near 20% real unemployment, the U.S. won't survive this. If we don't default now we're going to default later. I never thought I'd see the U.S. in this shape, but right now the future is bleak. Having apologists defend this administration doesn't help. I'm not sure the GOP has a better solution, but we as a country screwed up in '08. Obama is an incompetent, and doesn't even seem to care.

If you believe we're at the point where default is inevitable then it doesn't really matter who's in office because we're fucked anyway.

I'm at a terrible place right now because while I think Obama has done an obviously shitty job I don't think anyone else who was a candidate would have been better. Different, but not better. We could trade in a little more economic security for less privacy and more military or worse economy for less federal involvement (note those are hypotheticals and not meant to imply policies of any candidate would have necessarily done that. Just examples)

I have no patience for anyone who claims one political side has any sort of monopoly on fucking up or at least of late.

"If you believe we're at the point where default is inevitable then it doesn't really matter who's in office because we're ****ed anyway."

It is only inevitable if we allow Obama to let the debt hit the $20T mark, which he undoubtedly will at the rate of borrowing and spending that he's done in 2 1/2 years. It is almost as if the feds think they are playing with magic beans.