Y-Town Steelhound;791223 wrote:Maybe it's because he's been Miami's franchise player his entire career and was the best player on what currently stands as the only Heat championship team...Or because LeBron CAME to Wade.
like_that;791337 wrote:Because this is a forum, and we are here to discuss topics such as whose team it is....
Also lol at the bolded part of your quote. Other than joining forces together, what has LeBron and Wade done this season that has indicated they have a lack of ego? Was it when LeBron spoke in third person, was it when he said he is going to take his talents to Miami, was it when he said he spoils his fans sometimes, or was it when Noah said they are hollywood as hell? SMH. Also, gtfo with this less money bs. You do realize the Cavs made a S&T with Miami giving LeBron his max contract? On top of that there is no income tax in Miami, so LeBron is in fact making more money than he would have been making if he received a max contract in Cleveland.
like_that;791339 wrote:No, because the point people are trying to make is it's Wade's team and LeBron is his sidekick. But of course you try to make it sound like people are making LeBron/Pippen comparisons based on basketball ability.
"Willingness" my ass. LeBron was going to go for that S&T no matter where he went. Also, he knew Miami didn't have income tax, that was part of the draw of going there as well. He wouldn't have been giving up that much more money without the S&T, don't be so delusional.jordo212000;791347 wrote:Hey chief, notice I used the word "willingness"? They were all willing to take less in order to win, but ultimately their former teams thought that both could benefit from a sign and trade. James and Bosh were going to play in Miami regardless of whether or not their old teams swallowed their pride
jordo212000;791352 wrote:Lol. What does it mean to be a sidekick? Such a stupid, simple way to describe their setup. You would think that Bird, Jordan, and Magic won with nobodies
Actually Lebron's sign and trade took a little time to get done. Remember, Gilbert was balking at the idea for a couple of days out of spite. He was going to Miami one way or another, and was more than willing to take less to go there. Instead Lebron and Bosh got the best of both worlds."Willingness" my ass. LeBron was going to go for that S&T no matter where he went. Also, he knew Miami didn't have income tax, that was part of the draw of going there as well. He wouldn't have been giving up that much more money without the S&T, don't be so delusional.Hey chief, notice I used the word "willingness"? They were all willing to take less in order to win, but ultimately their former teams thought that both could benefit from a sign and trade. James and Bosh were going to play in Miami regardless of whether or not their old teams swallowed their pride
Lol. What does it mean to be a sidekick? Such a stupid, simple way to describe their setup. You would think that Bird, Jordan, and Magic won with nobodies
It's an analogy little guy. Try not to take everything so literally.
Edit: Maybe you will understand this better. Chicago was Jordan's team, not Scottie's. Miami is Wade's team, not LeBron's. Make sense now, or are you going to try to spin it to something else?
jordo212000;791373 wrote:Actually Lebron's sign and trade took a little time to get done. Remember, Gilbert was balking at the idea for a couple of days out of spite. He was going to Miami one way or another, and was more than willing to take less to go there. Instead Lebron and Bosh got the best of both worlds.
What difference does it make as to who's team it is though? Haha. Does it not count for Lebron or Bosh if they win a championship? That stuff only matters on Espn.
Shaq was terrible in the 2006 Finals.thedynasty1998;791345 wrote:Really? He didn't win that championship with Shaq?
like_that;791374 wrote:
As for what difference it makes. When it comes down to who gets the rings, it doesn't make a difference, when it comes to cementing a legacy it does.
jordo212000;791453 wrote:That legacy stuff only applies to people who hate him. Casual fans know how good he is, and they know who the best player on the team is. If Lebron and Dwade win multiple titles, his legacy will be just fine. As it stands now he is already one of the best players in NBA history. Rings would just be icing on the cake for him
BR1986FB;791461 wrote:It's already tainted if/when he wins rings.
BR1986FB;791461 wrote:It's already tainted if/when he wins rings.
jordo212000;791453 wrote:That legacy stuff only applies to people who hate him. Casual fans know how good he is, and they know who the best player on the team is. If Lebron and Dwade win multiple titles, his legacy will be just fine. As it stands now he is already one of the best players in NBA history. Rings would just be icing on the cake for him
wes_mantooth;791467 wrote:I think so too...at least a little bit. He will never be THE GUY on a championship team. If he won a championship in Cleveland with a bunch of nobodies, then he would be in the conversation with the Jordans of the world.
like_that;791468 wrote: And to quote idiot dynasty, it is just "MIND BOGGLING," to me how you say you hate Lebron. What a joke.
wes_mantooth;791467 wrote:I think so too...at least a little bit. He will never be THE GUY on a championship team. If he won a championship in Cleveland with a bunch of nobodies, then he would be in the conversation with the Jordans of the world.
wes_mantooth;791465 wrote: If he won a championship in Cleveland with a bunch of nobodies, then he would be in the conversation with the Jordans of the world.
jordo212000;791500 wrote:Why though? Jordan himself won with a top 50 of all time player (Pippen) and then several other great role players (Kukoc, Rodman, and Kerr). Why is it suddenly a requirement to win a championship with a bunch of Titos?
BR1986FB;791487 wrote:It is tainted. When guys like Jordan, who I don't think hates Lebron, implies it along with other past stars, I tend to believe that he will be viewed as "the great player who had to join forces with other stars to get his rings....couldn't get it done in Cleveland." No question he's a great player and may end of going down as the greatest of all time but the rings WILL be tarnished.
jordo212000;791500 wrote:Why though? Jordan himself won with a top 50 of all time player (Pippen) and then several other great role players (Kukoc, Rodman, and Kerr). Why is it suddenly a requirement to win a championship with a bunch of Titos?
like_that;791503 wrote:Big difference between building a team around a FRANCHISE PLAYER, and bolting your team because you are using the "if you can't beat em, join em," method.
wes_mantooth;791506 wrote:My belief is that pippen is in no way a top 50 guy. He can thank jordan for that ranking.
jordo212000;791511 wrote:They were fine the year that Jordan played baseball. They had a nice run without him. How old are you by the way? haha Pippen etched out a nice career for himself, even after he left Chicago.
wes_mantooth;791515 wrote:34. I actually lived and died with the nba back in those days.
I am also a firm believer that as great as jordan was, he ruined the nba game through no fault of his own. His game led to everyone trying to "be like mike". He was a once in a lifetime player and there are too many wannabes.
jordo212000;791516 wrote:So did you just forget that Pippen led the Bulls to a playoff run without Jordan? Pippen wasn't Jordan, but Pippen was still great. He continued to play well long after Jordan walked away