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May 25, 2011 10:08 PM
Al Bundy;780947 wrote:So, are you ok with kids transferring or not?

Dude....I typed my comment four (4) times....One more time, "his....DAD, (that's Kyle Kempts Father), was transferred here for work."
May 25, 2011 10:08pm
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May 25, 2011 10:33 PM
skank;780989 wrote:Dude....I typed my comment four (4) times....One more time, "his....DAD, (that's Kyle Kempts Father), was transferred here for work."

I didn't ask about his dad? Do you it is ok for kids to transfer or not?
May 25, 2011 10:33pm
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May 25, 2011 10:48 PM
Of course it is, but transferring and out of staters renting a coaches house from him are two different things....As is offering a private school education for free.
May 25, 2011 10:48pm
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May 25, 2011 10:49 PM
Please don't compare a kid transferring to what goes on at the parochials.
May 25, 2011 10:49pm
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Al Bundy

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May 26, 2011 12:37 AM
skank;781128 wrote:Please don't compare a kid transferring to what goes on at the parochials.

So basically if a kid transfers to Massillon, it is all good. But if a kid transfers to a private school, they are cheating?
May 26, 2011 12:37am
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May 26, 2011 12:38 AM
skank;781118 wrote:Of course it is, but transferring and out of staters renting a coaches house from him are two different things....As is offering a private school education for free.

How many Massillon football players are paying tuition?
May 26, 2011 12:38am
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May 26, 2011 9:48 AM
Al Bundy;781349 wrote:So basically if a kid transfers to Massillon, it is all good. But if a kid transfers to a private school, they are cheating?

Again, you hear what you want to hear. If a kid transfers ANYWHERE, it's fine with me. It's when a kid gets this and that offered to him to get him to attend your school. It's when kids are, "specifically targeted". It's when a coach "rents" a home to out of staters to get the kid to your school. Etc....Etc....Etc....
May 26, 2011 9:48am
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May 26, 2011 11:38 AM
skank;781683 wrote:Again, you hear what you want to hear. If a kid transfers ANYWHERE, it's fine with me. It's when a kid gets this and that offered to him to get him to attend your school. It's when kids are, "specifically targeted". It's when a coach "rents" a home to out of staters to get the kid to your school. Etc....Etc....Etc....

You're contradicting yourself and showing to be quite hypocritical. If a kid transfers to a public school (where they don't have to pay a cent)...you are OK with that. But if a kid transfers to a parochial school and gets money off of his tuition, that's an issue with you? Why?
May 26, 2011 11:38am
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May 26, 2011 12:16 PM
Every public school kid is receiving a scholarship. I know because I pay a lot of money into those scholarship funds.
May 26, 2011 12:16pm
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May 26, 2011 3:00 PM
skank;781683 wrote:Again, you hear what you want to hear....

Irony is ironic.
May 26, 2011 3:00pm
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May 26, 2011 4:30 PM
sherm03;781798 wrote:You're contradicting yourself and showing to be quite hypocritical. If a kid transfers to a public school (where they don't have to pay a cent)...you are OK with that. But if a kid transfers to a parochial school and gets money off of his tuition, that's an issue with you? Why?

Because it'd used as a tool. Everyone knows that a private school education is looked upon as being superior, and for good reason, privates don't have to take any old body that walks in off the street. You have to meet certain standards to attend a private school, such as a kid keeping his grades up, and staying out of trouble. The most important thing you need to attend a private school is $$$$. Now, don't stand here and tell me that privates don't take advantage of their superior academics by offering a kid a superior education for free.
May 26, 2011 4:30pm
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May 26, 2011 4:38 PM
skank;782168 wrote:Because it'd used as a tool. Everyone knows that a private school education is looked upon as being superior, and for good reason, privates don't have to take any old body that walks in off the street. You have to meet certain standards to attend a private school, such as a kid keeping his grades up, and staying out of trouble. The most important thing you need to attend a private school is $$$$. Now, don't stand here and tell me that privates don't take advantage of their superior academics by offering a kid a superior education for free.

Many public schools offer a great education to students as well. There are some public schools that do a better job in certain areas than private schools. Do you feel that those public schools have an unfair advantage?
May 26, 2011 4:38pm
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May 26, 2011 6:19 PM
skank;781118 wrote:Of course it is, but transferring and out of staters renting a coaches house from him are two different things....As is offering a private school education for free.
Do you have any proof that this ever happened in your life time. The only kid I know that moved from out of state was a young basketball player from Detroit who lived with an assistant coach from Boardman. By the way they were sanctioned for that one. Can you give me names and PROOF, not your assumptions, of this happening at a parochial school.

As far as parochial education being free what do you call the open enrollment kids who come to Massilon? Do the tax dollars from the home district compare to a scholarship? Personally I don't like a kid taking my tax dollars to another district but that's what they do and I have to live with it.
May 26, 2011 6:19pm
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May 26, 2011 7:18 PM
So let me get this straight. Privates should be penalized because they do a better job of educating students and win more sports championships? If a kid goes to a private school for the better education and his family isn't wealthy, it's some kind of crime when somebody gives the kid a break so he can partake of a better education? So if a kid is born into a poor family, in a bad district, he's condemned to whatever kind of education that district decides to give him? What if that district is Glenville? What if it's in Youngstown?

Got it. That's quite an admission, Skank.
May 26, 2011 7:18pm
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May 26, 2011 8:41 PM
aged jock;782279 wrote:So let me get this straight. Privates should be penalized because they do a better job of educating students and win more sports championships? If a kid goes to a private school for the better education and his family isn't wealthy, it's some kind of crime when somebody gives the kid a break so he can partake of a better education? So if a kid is born into a poor family, in a bad district, he's condemned to whatever kind of education that district decides to give him? What if that district is Glenville? What if it's in Youngstown?

Got it. That's quite an admission, Skank.

Come on jock, they're "giving the kid a break?" Just so happens that St. V gave a handful of kids, "a break", in the early 2000's and it just so happens that those kids were GREAT basketball players. The parochials take advantage of their situation, IT'S A TOOL.
May 26, 2011 8:41pm
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May 26, 2011 9:00 PM
skank;782309 wrote:Come on jock, they're "giving the kid a break?" Just so happens that St. V gave a handful of kids, "a break", in the early 2000's and it just so happens that those kids were GREAT basketball players. The parochials take advantage of their situation, IT'S A TOOL.

But if those same kids went to a nearby open enrollment school to get out of the crappy Akron city schools...that wouldn't bother you. Even though those kids would be getting a better education, and...gasp!...wouldn't have to pay anything. Why is that better than them going to St. V's for free?
May 26, 2011 9:00pm
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May 26, 2011 9:09 PM
It probably isn't better really, are you telling me that the parochials don't play the free superior education card?
May 26, 2011 9:09pm
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May 26, 2011 9:24 PM
skank;782327 wrote:It probably isn't better really, are you telling me that the parochials don't play the free superior education card?

Green: So you agree it isn't better...but still feel that the parochials are the ones that "cheat" and the public schools don't. Bottom line, a school is going to stress it's good points in order to attract students. Whether that is better educational opportunities, a winning football tradition, a great theater department, or whatever the case...every school does it, both private and public...and that is fine.

Red: Are you telling me that OE schools that surround crappy inner city districts don't play the same card?
May 26, 2011 9:24pm
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May 26, 2011 9:49 PM
sherm03;782339 wrote:Green: So you agree it isn't better...but still feel that the parochials are the ones that "cheat" and the public schools don't. Bottom line, a school is going to stress it's good points in order to attract students. Whether that is better educational opportunities, a winning football tradition, a great theater department, or whatever the case...every school does it, both private and public...and that is fine.

Red: Are you telling me that OE schools that surround crappy inner city districts don't play the same card?
Green= Don't be like Skank!!!
Red= Don't be like Skank!
May 26, 2011 9:49pm
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May 26, 2011 9:56 PM
Dean Wormer;782375 wrote:Green= Don't be like Skank!!!
Red= Don't be like Skank!

I just thought that might be the only way he understands things.
May 26, 2011 9:56pm
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May 26, 2011 10:00 PM
sherm03;782405 wrote:I just thought that might be the only way he understands things.
You must be one hell of a comedian. That one made me laugh. I'm willing to bet that Skank started the tea party.
May 26, 2011 10:00pm
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May 27, 2011 9:45 AM
Dean Wormer;782375 wrote: Don't be like Skank!!!


Don't be like Skank!

Now that's a goal in life!!
May 27, 2011 9:45am
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May 27, 2011 7:02 PM
skank;782309 wrote:Come on jock, they're "giving the kid a break?" Just so happens that St. V gave a handful of kids, "a break", in the early 2000's and it just so happens that those kids were GREAT basketball players. The parochials take advantage of their situation, IT'S A TOOL.

Exactly. Now you're getting it!
May 27, 2011 7:02pm
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May 29, 2011 10:11 AM
And Skank certainly should know a tool when he sees one
May 29, 2011 10:11am
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May 29, 2011 5:18 PM
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May 29, 2011 5:18pm