Writerbuckeye;767702 wrote:They didn't do anything because they lacked the guts to take on a system all of them were also profiting from -- and because there wasn't a numbers problem until lately.

We've now got far more people retiring and collecting pensions over longer periods of time, and not enough people working to make up for it.

UN-SUSTAINABLE.

I'm not arguing about the sustainability of public pensions. I'm merely pointing out that a majority of Ohioan's believe that public workers ought to be able to freely contract together to bargain collectively. I am not commenting on whether this is good policy or not. I am merely pointing out that, even if it is the case that it's bad policy, a majority of Ohioan's support it and you and Quaker suggesting that Ohioan's for nearly 30 years merely cowered in fear to this ominous democrat machine is erroneous.

Most Ohioan's don't agree with your position on the collective bargaining of teachers, whether they are wrong is something else.

I love how you assume the public is in favor of this because some polls say it's so. We'll know for certain if/when it gets to the ballot.

Right now, the anti-SB5 sentiment is coasting on a lot of emotional responses by teachers and the media portrayals that came with that.

And just for the record: I also have no problem with collective bargaining and unions -- if it is all VOLUNTARY. Nobody has to join, and dues aren't forced on employees. Same for the money they are now forcing people to pay so they can build a war chest to defeat this at the polls. If it were voluntary, I bet you'd see less than half the people giving money.

Writerbuckeye;767339 wrote:Center: I may be wrong, but I think a lot of those responses were sarcasm -- really harsh (stupid sounding in some cases) sarcasm.

I know.

I was merely extending the snark!

I wasn't sure...we really need a much clearer Snark Font for the board.

Agreed, Writer. We also need better smilies. These ones SUCK!
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