http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6450578

First they harass him into moving from Ohio to Nashville then they bombard his twitter account until he decides to take it down. Given he is being a little thin skinned here, but you can only take so much crap before you do something about it.

He's right though. Everything he said is correct, how can you keep a coach who blatantly lies to the NCAA and gives your school a bad name? OSU fans need to get a grip on reality and quit defending sweater vest just because he beats Michigan. There is a bigger picture here

lmao...I love Herbie, but he is starting to act like a little bitch. He knows how crazy the OSU faithful is....what do you expect.

And no I don't support any of it.

Automatik;754599 wrote:lmao...I love Herbie, but he is starting to act like a little bitch. He knows how crazy the OSU faithful is....what do you expect.

And no I don't support any of it.

Yeah, he's being quite thin skinned, but just because the the fanatics are retarded by consensus doesn't mean you should cater to them as well.

Yeah nor does it need an article from ESPN.

omg Herbie stopped tweeting bc people were mean to him!!!

Twitter is stupid.

I really only care about winning games. No program is perfect.

Pick6;754614 wrote:I really only care about winning games. No program is perfect.

So you have no problem with running a dirty program so long as you get results?

Pick6;754614 wrote:I really only care about winning games. No program is perfect.

Are you Coach Tressel?

goosebumps;754685 wrote:So you have no problem with running a dirty program so long as you get results?

Unless you have something personally at stake, I'm not sure why that would matter.

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He's right though. Everything he said is correct, how can you keep a coach who blatantly lies to the NCAA and gives your school a bad name? OSU fans need to get a grip on reality and quit defending sweater vest just because he beats Michigan. There is a bigger picture here

I am not an OSU fanatic by any means but one man can't make any school look bad. If one man could the school has lost perspective on why they exist.

If a school looks bad there's more than one person behind the ill perceived actions.

Herbie just doesn't know when to stop. There are so many things wrong with this paragraph that I had to pick it apart:

"The Ohio State fan base blindly is supporting Ohio State and Jim Tressel," Herbstreit said Monday.

Maybe someone can remind him that included in the Ohio State fan base are:

1) one of the largest, if not the largest, student populations of any university campus in the U.S.
2) the largest alumni association of any major university
3) a majority of the population of the seventh largest state in the U.S., where there are no other major D-1 programs to root for

In sum, that's a lot of people. So yes, some are supporting Ohio State and Jim Tressel, but a whole lot aren't. He could've phrased it differently to say "A lot of OSU fans" or "It seems to me a majority of OSU fans", instead of bluntly saying "The OSU fan base", as if all Buckeye fans are united (and as this thread title also suggests).

"It's almost gotten to the point that he beats Michigan, he wins 10 games, he goes to BCS bowl games, they'll support him no matter what he does as far as the fan base."

1) That sentiment would probably be expressed by any fan base used to that kind of success. The difference is, the other 13 (or 14) coaches in trouble for lying to the NCAA and subsequently fired didn't have on-the-field success to outweigh their transgressions. Do you think if Urban Meyer were in trouble for exactly the same thing before the 2010 season, after winning 2 Natl Championships in 5 seasons, that Florida fans would be marching the streets and "they would have actually lined it up and had a firing squad and fired him"? Don't think so.

2) Jim Tressel doesn't just "go to" BCS bowl games. He's 5-3 and "wins" them 62.5% of the time he goes to them.

3) I love how he says "They'll support him no matter what he does." That means that JT could rape & murder a few people, punch a few opposing players when they come near him on the sidelines, shell out a few hundred grand to every one of his players, and run a highly sophisticated and violent Mexican drug cartel, and the ENTIRE OSU fan base would wink and ignore it all, if only he keeps winning on the field. That's right, OSU fans (all of them, btw) are so morally backwards and corrupt that they would still support him.

Kirk Herbstreit needs to get over himself.

My goodness is Herby sensitive or what? What personality on TV doesn't go through this?

Maybe he forgets that we all supported him and turn the blind eye to the fact he couldn't beat Michigan.

I'm tired of herbie acting like a baby v

jhay, good post..and goosebumps--nice try :rolleyes:

Wait until he bad mouths Tn and they torch his house. Our fans are no different than UT, Al, Fl, LSU. They take things personally, just a few, but enough to be noticed.

Keep hatin', we'll keep winning.

goosebumps;754685 wrote:So you have no problem with running a dirty program so long as you get results?

I'm okay with running a dirty program if it wins National Championships. If your going to play dirty, play dirty for allllll the marbles in my opinion.

Well, it sucks that some of the faithful have turned on one of their own. He is still the best at what he does. He has an opionion like the rest of the country and he is paid to share it. If you don't think this hurts him, you are nuts. The guy was a captain, he has shed blood sweat and tears for the program. If you disagree with him, that doesn't make you wrong. If you act like a knucklehead, then you are wrong. It's really that simple.

goosebumps;754685 wrote:So you have no problem with running a dirty program so long as you get results?

you're either naive, stupid, or both if you believe that EVERY successful program isn't "dirty" to a certain degree...some are worse than others, but more often than not, it's just seems that way because they got caught

georgemc80;755593 wrote:Well, it sucks that some of the faithful have turned on one of their own. He is still the best at what he does. He has an opionion like the rest of the country and he is paid to share it. If you don't think this hurts him, you are nuts. The guy was a captain, he has shed blood sweat and tears for the program. If you disagree with him, that doesn't make you wrong. If you act like a knucklehead, then you are wrong. It's really that simple.

Herbie jumped the shark when he got into a public pissing match with a college QB named Pryor. If you're an adult who makes millions of dollars doing national games, you don't lower yourself to get the last word in on a college player -- no matter what the player says about you. You ignore it.

This latest "story" about the Twitter account is just more posturing (read lying) by Herbstreit and his playing the victim with OSU fans.

His move wasn't made because of OSU fans, at least not only because of that. There are other reasons his wife wanted to leave Columbus, and it had nothing to do with the fans of OSU and more to do with the fans of Kirk. But it's better for Herbstreit's image (he thinks...wrongly) if he comes off as the victim in all this.

Fact is, Herbstreit has become a parody of himself. With his faux tan and highlighted hair, his fragile ego now matches that of every diva who ever graced a public venue, whether it be stage, screen or in the booth for football games.

vball10set;755685 wrote:you're either naive, stupid, or both if you believe that EVERY successful program isn't "dirty" to a certain degree...some are worse than others, but more often than not, it's just seems that way because they got caught

I never said successful programs aren't "dirty"... of course they are. That doesn't mean you shouldn't have a problem with it. I thought OSU was supposed to be exceptional.

goosebumps;755797 wrote:I never said successful programs aren't "dirty"... of course they are. That doesn't mean you shouldn't have a problem with it. I thought OSU was supposed to be exceptional.

I'd say that the older fan base is more concerned whether OSU is the exception or not. You've never lied to your boss? I guess I'd rather have that, especially since Tressel has a mostly clean past, than paying players 200k to come to my school.

Pick6;755799 wrote:I'd say that the older fan base is more concerned whether OSU is the exception or not. You've never lied to your boss? I guess I'd rather have that, especially since Tressel has a mostly clean past, than paying players 200k to come to my school.

Serious question... How can you say Tressel has a mostly clean past?

Pick6;755799 wrote:I'd say that the older fan base is more concerned whether OSU is the exception or not. You've never lied to your boss? I guess I'd rather have that, especially since Tressel has a mostly clean past, than paying players 200k to come to my school.

Actually no, I haven't ever lied to my boss lol. I've never had a reason to. If only the older fan base saw OSU as exceptional then why is everyone on this board so quick to criticize the SEC and USC? OSU hasn't shown me that they're any better than those programs. I guess we'll see what else comes out in the next few months.

goosebumps;755797 wrote:I never said successful programs aren't "dirty"... of course they are. That doesn't mean you shouldn't have a problem with it. I thought OSU was supposed to be exceptional.

I never meant to imply that I didn't have a problem with it, and I'd like to think they are exceptional, just not beyond reproach---IMO there's only one fanbase that feels their team is infallible, but that's for another thread...

vball10set;756039 wrote:I never meant to imply that I didn't have a problem with it, and I'd like to think they are exceptional, just not beyond reproach---IMO there's only one fanbase that feels their team is infallible, but that's for another thread...

I think we'd probably agree on this.