
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Apr 18, 2011 11:52am
Footwedge;743689 wrote:LOL. Hit a nerve there....sorry. And the "volunteering to pay more" is so old and tiring, ya know? I'll pay more when you money bagger types pony up. Deal?
Again....as a couple, my wife and I earn more[B/] than 90% than others do in our county. And we pay only 7% on federal tax. We do pay a chunk on payroll tax...what a shame.
WTF does your county have to do with it? That's not a very good premise to base an argument on.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Apr 18, 2011 12:05pm
Footwedge;743689 wrote:LOL. Hit a nerve there....sorry. And the "volunteering to pay more" is so old and tiring, ya know? I'll pay more when you money bagger types pony up. Deal?
Again....as a couple, my wife and I earn more[B/] than 90% than others do in our county. And we pay only 7% on federal tax. We do pay a chunk on payroll tax...what a shame.
I'd gladly pay the same percentage as you if that equates to "ponying up".
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Apr 18, 2011 12:37pm
fish82;743695 wrote:WTF does your county have to do with it? That's not a very good premise to base an argument on.
He's posted his income on here. If that's the 90th percentile in his county, there's a decent number of people named "Cooter" and "Junior" in said county.

Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Apr 18, 2011 12:55pm
Footwedge;743689 wrote:LOL. Hit a nerve there....sorry. And the "volunteering to pay more" is so old and tiring, ya know? I'll pay more when you money bagger types pony up. Deal?
Again....as a couple, my wife and I earn more[B/] than 90% than others do in our county. And we pay only 7% on federal tax. We do pay a chunk on payroll tax...what a shame.
Aren't the "money bagger types" already paying a huge disproportionate share of all taxes?
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stlouiedipalma
Posts: 1,797
Apr 18, 2011 1:30pm
I made a boatload of money last year, and I'm "retired". After all was said and done I paid quite a bit in Federal income tax. Fortunately I had enough withheld to give me a whopping $7.00 refund.

O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Apr 18, 2011 2:12pm
I just had to cough up almost $4K in taxes because last year, I needed nearly 100% of my income to get by.
It's days like these that I most hate unnecessary spending (and the taxes I have to pay to cover it).
It's days like these that I most hate unnecessary spending (and the taxes I have to pay to cover it).
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Apr 18, 2011 3:29pm
The really sad part is most people don't even think about the 14.4% or whatever of FICA coming off the top (even though half is the employer match, that's still really your taxes). Depresses me to think I don't start actually taking home money from my weekly check until Wednesday.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Apr 18, 2011 6:34pm
I've posted my income? So go ahead and tell me....how much do I make?....I forget.queencitybuckeye;743749 wrote:He's posted his income on here. If that's the 90th percentile in his county, there's a decent number of people named "Cooter" and "Junior" in said county.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Apr 18, 2011 6:42pm
Argument? I simply stated that I paid 7% on federal taxes. Now I do have some really good deductions. 2 kids= 4 exemtpions. At $3650 a pop...that's over 14 grand. Throw a little standard deduction into the mix and then wowzer.... $1500 tax credit (not deduction...credit) for putting in a high efficiency furnace...and another 4K deduction for junior's tuition.fish82;743695 wrote:WTF does your county have to do with it? That's not a very good premise to base an argument on.
Last year we received 7 grand back from uncle Sam. Overpaid due to some unusual circumstances. Finished up my taxes Sunday....have another $4200 coming to us this year. Wifey is lovin it.

fish82
Posts: 4,111
Apr 18, 2011 6:54pm
Which is fine...and feel free to send me some if you see fit.Footwedge;744090 wrote:Argument? I simply stated that I paid 7% on federal taxes. Now I do have some really good deductions. 2 kids= 4 exemtpions. At $3650 a pop...that's over 14 grand. Throw a little standard deduction into the mix and then wowzer.... $1500 tax credit (not deduction...credit) for putting in a high efficiency furnace...and another 4K deduction for junior's tuition.
Last year we received 7 grand back from uncle Sam. Overpaid for due to some unusual circumstances. Finished up my taxes Sunday....have another $4200 coming to us this year. Wifey is lovin it.
I just didn't get the reason for the mention of where you live...the proper comparison is against those of your same income range. Geography shouldn't enter into it.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Apr 18, 2011 7:03pm
Geography does play a role in it. Has to do with standard of living. Queen City Buckeye and his cuz Manhattan Buckeye probably pay $1800 a month for their 2 room apartment. What we make as a coupkle provides more purchasing power than those big financial gurus...just sayin...LOL.fish82;744099 wrote:Which is fine...and feel free to send me some if you see fit.
I just didn't get the reason for the mention of where you live...the proper comparison is against those of your same income range. Geography shouldn't enter into it.
Where I live....a 2900 square foot home will cost the taxpayer a whopping $2280 per year in property taxes. Not bad eh? Nothing wrong with having "Cooter" as your next door neighbor either...he mows his grass and pulls his weeds as well as anybody.

Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Apr 18, 2011 8:09pm
Footwedge;744090 wrote:Argument? I simply stated that I paid 7% on federal taxes. Now I do have some really good deductions. 2 kids= 4 exemtpions. At $3650 a pop...that's over 14 grand. Throw a little standard deduction into the mix and then wowzer.... $1500 tax credit (not deduction...credit) for putting in a high efficiency furnace...and another 4K deduction for junior's tuition.
Last year we received 7 grand back from uncle Sam. Overpaid due to some unusual circumstances. Finished up my taxes Sunday....have another $4200 coming to us this year. Wifey is lovin it.
Here's where the tax system royally screws (no kiss) single taxpayers. All these "family friendly" tax breaks that end up costing everyone. I say let's eliminate all those tax breaks and perhaps we'll see less social problems because there will be less kids, less divorce (or marriages) and we get the added plus of a greener planet because there are fewer around using up the resources.
Did that sound eco-nazi enough to be real?
I do hate the whole redistributing the wealth thing -- even when it includes middle class families.
I'd prefer a fair tax setup.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Apr 19, 2011 6:49pm
I agree! Surprised? Not at all picking on jmog here......but he has a slew of kids if I remember correctly....has a great job....and pays shit for taxes.Writerbuckeye;744171 wrote:Here's where the tax system royally screws (no kiss) single taxpayers. All these "family friendly" tax breaks that end up costing everyone. I say let's eliminate all those tax breaks and perhaps we'll see less social problems because there will be less kids, less divorce (or marriages) and we get the added plus of a greener planet because there are fewer around using up the resources.
Did that sound eco-nazi enough to be real?
I do hate the whole redistributing the wealth thing -- even when it includes middle class families.
I'd prefer a fair tax setup.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Apr 19, 2011 8:57pm
gut;743953 wrote:The really sad part is most people don't even think about the 14.4% or whatever of FICA coming off the top (even though half is the employer match, that's still really your taxes). Depresses me to think I don't start actually taking home money from my weekly check until Wednesday.
Some people don't have to pay the full amount, particularly government workers that were in the system before the 1986 and 1991 reforms. My Dad spent most of his career not paying any FICA.